Could Judah-Cotto & Hatton-Castillo Enhance Floyd's Legacy More Than His Fight?

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Originally Posted by MannyP

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

Samcrusher you hit the nail right on the head.
MannyP...How did you determine that Baldo was no real threat to Floyd?Yet you think that Williams,Margo,Cotto are...this is based on what?

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Wow, how could anyone think he was? He's smaller, much less reach, slower, no power, and an old man on top if it. What the hell are you people smoking?

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As far as the rest of it, Margarito has the size and enough power to make Mayweather at least about what he's doing. Not to mention the experience.

Mosley, no explanation necessary.

Williams, I haven't seen enough of him to be sure, but I think his size and aggression would make it interesting. At this point, it's hard to see how Floyd handles it. It would definitely prove something if he took on such a challenge, but this is Floyd so forget it. He would never do anything for the pure challenge of it.

Cotto, I don't think matches up well with Floyd, but his power makes him dangerous. Again, dangerous, Floyd wants no part of it so forget it. He's out too.

Does it ever cross the mind of any of you Floyd lovers out there how he's managed to be a professional so long and managed so few big fights? Wake up people.

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Originally Posted by MannyP

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Originally Posted by MannyP

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

Samcrusher you hit the nail right on the head.
MannyP...How did you determine that Baldo was no real threat to Floyd?Yet you think that Williams,Margo,Cotto are...this is based on what?

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Wow, how could anyone think he was? He's smaller, much less reach, slower, no power, and an old man on top if it. What the hell are you people smoking?

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As far as the rest of it, Margarito has the size and enough power to make Mayweather at least about what he's doing. Not to mention the experience.

Mosley, no explanation necessary.

Williams, I haven't seen enough of him to be sure, but I think his size and aggression would make it interesting. At this point, it's hard to see how Floyd handles it. It would definitely prove something if he took on such a challenge, but this is Floyd so forget it. He would never do anything for the pure challenge of it.

Cotto, I don't think matches up well with Floyd, but his power makes him dangerous. Again, dangerous, Floyd wants no part of it so forget it. He's out too.

Does it ever cross the mind of any of you Floyd lovers out there how he's managed to be a professional so long and managed so few big fights? Wake up people.

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Oh, and by the way, I never said these were great fighters who were better than Floyd or would dominate Floyd, my point was that each of these guys presents something to challenge Floyd that Baldomir and Judah didn't. Baldomir especially, who had absolutely nothing to challenge him with. You wanted to know who he could have fought for a better challenge, well here it is.

They're out there now, they were different names, but they were out there the year before that and the year before that too. But it's always somebody else's fault why they never happen.

When it comes to most things, taking the path of least resistance is logical and smart, but if you want to do it while you're a boxer and say at the same time that you fight the best, it just doesn't work.

Mannp on your fighter breakdowns...
You said that Margo had the size,power,and experience.
-Floyd beat a tall Corrales...your measuring Margo's power by what?Him KO'ing D- fighters?Experience...he doesnt have experience against top fighters.

Williams-You mention his size and aggressive style.He leaves himself wide open and he takes a lot of punches.You take away his height and stamina...and he would be like 8-24 right now or something.He makes to many mistakes to beat Floyd.

Cotto-You mentioned his power and that he's dangerous.Power means nothing if you cant land a clean shot on someone.Where was his power during the Malignaggi and Urkal fights?Because I didnt see it.

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

Mannp on your fighter breakdowns...
You said that Margo had the size,power,and experience.
-Floyd beat a tall Corrales...your measuring Margo's power by what?Him KO'ing D- fighters?Experience...he doesnt have experience against top fighters.

Williams-You mention his size and aggressive style.He leaves himself wide open and he takes a lot of punches.You take away his height and stamina...and he would be like 8-24 right now or something.He makes to many mistakes to beat Floyd.

Cotto-You mentioned his power and that he's dangerous.Power means nothing if you cant land a clean shot on someone.Where was his power during the Malignaggi and Urkal fights?Because I didnt see it.

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Margo is superior to Corrales. That is a very poor comparison. Also, Corrales' size is deceptive, while he's tall, he has a relatively short reach. Despite his height, Mayweather was able to establish the distance and control the fight. Also, I think Margo clearly has more power.

Williams, you might be right, or not, hard to say unless we see it for ourselves. One thing about Floyd, he has rarely fought anyone, if ever, that has physical advantages of reach and height. For him, setting the distance is a huge part of him controlling the fight. With Williams, he may leave himself open, but the advantages are so huge Mayweather might not ever get close to him. Plus, Mayweather has no power. His stoppages come from accumulation, not power. It's not just a matter of him getting close and working Williams, it would be a matter of him having to do it over and over in order for him to wear Williams down or add up points. I think that could be a very difficult task for Mayweather.

Cotto, I actually agree with you. It's a bad match up for Cotto. However, his power makes him dangerous. He is agressive and brings with him a chance to catch Mayweather. Baldomir and Judah did not carry this kind of risk.

Would any of these guys beat Mayweather? Maybe not, or maybe, that's not the main point. Each would have brought something into the ring that Judah and Baldmir didn't. They would have been much more difficult opponents, and as far as I'm concerned, answered more of our questions about Floyd and earned him much more respect.

Baldomir and Judah presented no real threat from their power, they had no advantages in height or reach, they were safe choices and clearly NOT the best competition for Mayweather at 147.

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Originally Posted by MannyP

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Originally Posted by Olympian904

Mannp on your fighter breakdowns...
You said that Margo had the size,power,and experience.
-Floyd beat a tall Corrales...your measuring Margo's power by what?Him KO'ing D- fighters?Experience...he doesnt have experience against top fighters.

Williams-You mention his size and aggressive style.He leaves himself wide open and he takes a lot of punches.You take away his height and stamina...and he would be like 8-24 right now or something.He makes to many mistakes to beat Floyd.

Cotto-You mentioned his power and that he's dangerous.Power means nothing if you cant land a clean shot on someone.Where was his power during the Malignaggi and Urkal fights?Because I didnt see it.

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Margo is superior to Corrales. That is a very poor comparison. Also, Corrales' size is deceptive, while he's tall, he has a relatively short reach. Despite his height, Mayweather was able to establish the distance and control the fight. Also, I think Margo clearly has more power.

Williams, you might be right, or not, hard to say unless we see it for ourselves. One thing about Floyd, he has rarely fought anyone, if ever, that has physical advantages of reach and height. For him, setting the distance is a huge part of him controlling the fight. With Williams, he may leave himself open, but the advantages are so huge Mayweather might not ever get close to him. Plus, Mayweather has no power. His stoppages come from accumulation, not power. It's not just a matter of him getting close and working Williams, it would be a matter of him having to do it over and over in order for him to wear Williams down or add up points. I think that could be a very difficult task for Mayweather.

Cotto, I actually agree with you. It's a bad match up for Cotto. However, his power makes him dangerous. He is agressive and brings with him a chance to catch Mayweather. Baldomir and Judah did not carry this kind of risk.

Would any of these guys beat Mayweather? Maybe not, or maybe, that's not the main point. Each would have brought something into the ring that Judah and Baldmir didn't. They would have been much more difficult opponents, and as far as I'm concerned, answered more of our questions about Floyd and earned him much more respect.

Baldomir and Judah presented no real threat from their power, they had no advantages in height or reach, they were safe choices and clearly NOT the best competition for Mayweather at 147.

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I agree Margarito is superior to Corrales, but he's inferior to DLH in every way imaginable. If Floyd dispatches of Oscar next Saturday, Margarito supporters can't make any claim as to how he would then be more deserving than Hatton (if he beats Castillo) or Cotto (if he beats Judah).