How Many Big Punchers Have There Been That Haven't Been Chinny ??

Jake LaMotta,,Jack Johnson,,George Foreman,,Tua,,Tyson,,Sam Peter,,James Toney at the lower weights,,Ray Mercer,,Chavez,,

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm not sure about Valero yet but considering how many shots he takes he is probably one tough mofo.

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Valero is a hell of a puncher. Mosquera floored him so he's no superman.

Pac has no granite chin either. He's just good of shaking it off when he gets rocked.

Vitali Klitschko definately,he was never down in 210 amateur fights and 37 pro fights. :boxing:

George Chuvalo and Jerry Quarry deserve recognition. Those were two big punchers with absolute granite chins.

Marvin Hagler???

Joe Frazier....Roberto Duran....Ibeabuchi (from what we can gather from 20 fights)....JC Chavez.....Kostya Tszyu....Harry Greb (never KO'd).....

Foreman, Tua, Ibeabuchi,Tyson,Marciano

I always thought that the guys who punched didn't have great chins because they were so involved in delivering a punch that they ended up caught as they were punching and got the effects more dramatically than someone who tightens up and sees the punch coming. Although the lean fighters like Bob Foster or Tommy Hearns or Terry Norris all did not take the best punch, the guys who punched who were squat like Tyson and Tua took good punches yet had to be inside. I think the inside big punchers took better punches than the guys who hit hard from the outside. Foreman is a guy who was both.. He punched hard on the outside and inside yet he was bigger than most so he absorbed the big punches well. Problem with big punchers are that they hit so hard that usually they were not used to getting hit well. But guys who hit hard and had ok chins were Tyson, Tua, Foreman, Hagler, although Hagler was not a big big puncher, but he was decent. One thing about punchers is that Hearns did not take Barkley's punch well in the first fight, but in the second fight he was on the ropes and knew the punches were coming and he took hard punches which surprised alot of people. As though just knowing the punches were coming mad him take it better. Foreman had a better chin later in his career. And Tyson took a punch ok, but the punch would take steam out of him.

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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65

I always thought that the guys who punched didn't have great chins because they were so involved in delivering a punch that they ended up caught as they were punching and got the effects more dramatically than someone who tightens up and sees the punch coming. Although the lean fighters like Bob Foster or Tommy Hearns or Terry Norris all did not take the best punch, the guys who punched who were squat like Tyson and Tua took good punches yet had to be inside. I think the inside big punchers took better punches than the guys who hit hard from the outside. Foreman is a guy who was both.. He punched hard on the outside and inside yet he was bigger than most so he absorbed the big punches well. Problem with big punchers are that they hit so hard that usually they were not used to getting hit well. But guys who hit hard and had ok chins were Tyson, Tua, Foreman, Hagler, although Hagler was not a big big puncher, but he was decent. One thing about punchers is that Hearns did not take Barkley's punch well in the first fight, but in the second fight he was on the ropes and knew the punches were coming and he took hard punches which surprised alot of people. As though just knowing the punches were coming mad him take it better. Foreman had a better chin later in his career. And Tyson took a punch ok, but the punch would take steam out of him.

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You bring up good points about Foreman later in his career and his chin being better at that stage,,,If you ever see his later fight's ( this is the exact same reason James Toney takes his punches so well) he rolls with the shots even the ones he get's hammered on big he rolls with and that takes a lot of steam off the shots...It is truly an art that if not mastered you will get KO'd quick

Early toney for certain

But an incredible example...


Roberto Duran.. - ..Iran barkley

Some would say duran past prime.. Some , maybe i would say his last hurrah..

But you watch barkley - duran round 8 and tell me roberto doesnt have an iron chin!

Whats more it tells you something about hearns' devestating power after seeing duran take shots like this ;) :)

Julian Jackson.















Just kidding!!!!

Seriously, I'd mention Tyson, Foreman, Frazier.
At the lower weights, I'd say Aaron Pryor must be mentioned. Those right hands he ate from Alexis Arguello would've floored a small elephant. And Pryor could downright wallop!

suprised no one mentioned nas (He sure is hated) ONe of the biggest ever punchers at that weight never stopped. and he took a beating from barrera that would have stopped most.

Good list ........ I'd put Sonny Liston in there somewhere too.

hahahaha....it would have been funny had the head slam in the turnbuckle would have KO'd him!



Max Baer could take a decent shot....Joe Louis fucked him up and he still lasted 4 rounds with a PRIME Joe Louis and suffered one of only 3 KO losses

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Originally Posted by Drama

suprised no one mentioned nas (He sure is hated)

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Guilty as charged!!
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Originally Posted by Drama

and he took a beating from barrera that would have stopped most.

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Yes he did. However, he was also moving back for a lot of those punches. Had Barrera connected cleanly with Naz coming in or just being stationary, I think it would've been "nighty-night Naz." So I don't think it's necessarily his great chin, but his ability to roll with the punches that saved his clown a**.

haha ... wow.

He had a great chin though shame about his attitude because he was actually a very good fighter who was beaten by one of the best.