Re: How about Hagler vs RJJ ?
X - I have never seen you been so serious or write some consise posts before ;)
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Re: How about Hagler vs RJJ ?
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Originally Posted by amat
Probably the best post I've ever seen you make X, fantastic stuff CC. I would take Hagler by a KO. I saw Hopkins' persistance give Roy problems, there has never been a better come forward fighter in history then Marvin Hagler imo. This is a fantastic matchup at 160.
Hold on just a second there your comparing Hopkins fight to how Hagler fight would go ?? Jones dominated Hopkins like 9 rounds to 3 so i don't see how thats giving Jones problems plus Hopkins wasn't fighting the same type of fight Hagler would as for Hagler he lost to natural Welterweight Leonard yes some may argue with decision or that it wasn't quite a prime Hagler but it wasn't far off and he still lost so in a 12 round bout i think Jones has the tools to beat Hagler.
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easily more power than hagler
I'm a huge RJJ fan but theres no way I can agree with that... Roy had more speed by Hagler definately had more force behind his blows.
Actually p4p i would say maybe Jones had more power Hagler was never one hit ko artist he used to wear guys down with short chopping punches where as Jones could turn your lights out with one punch aka Hill vs Jones and Hill went 12 rounds with Hearns.
Hills lights were'nt turned out it was a bodyshot were'nt it that stopped him
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easily more power than hagler
I'm a huge RJJ fan but theres no way I can agree with that... Roy had more speed by Hagler definately had more force behind his blows.
Actually p4p i would say maybe Jones had more power Hagler was never one hit ko artist he used to wear guys down with short chopping punches where as Jones could turn your lights out with one punch aka Hill vs Jones and Hill went 12 rounds with Hearns.
Hills lights were'nt turned out it was a bodyshot were'nt it that stopped him
Yes but that shows the power to do it Hagler never had power like that.
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I would go as far as saying Jones never met anyone as good as Hagler though and would Jones keep him off thats the question he had great stamina and just kept coming after you
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he had great stimina and kept coming forword. yes but he never ever met any one with roy jones knock out power.
yes hurns could hit. but not like jones.
jones never realy planted his feet for power. and the power was still there. he did it agaisnt ruiz and it showed.
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Originally Posted by artest2000
he had great stimina and kept coming forword. yes but he never ever met any one with roy jones knock out power.
John Mugabi
Thomas Hearns ??
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Hearns was past it plus he never really hit Hill clean Mugabi and Hearns hit harder than Jones.
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i think hearns did hit harder but u jus dont see jones punches coming and thats the difrence
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Roy destroys Hagler. He was faster than Leonard at middleweight, and Hagler could only deal with Leonard because he couldn't punch at the weight, but Roy is stronger, faster, and hits harder than anyone Hagler has ever faced.
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Originally Posted by amat
Probably the best post I've ever seen you make X, fantastic stuff CC. I would take Hagler by a KO. I saw Hopkins' persistance give Roy problems, there has never been a better come forward fighter in history then Marvin Hagler imo. This is a fantastic matchup at 160.
Hold on just a second there your comparing Hopkins fight to how Hagler fight would go ?? Jones dominated Hopkins like 9 rounds to 3 so i don't see how thats giving Jones problems plus Hopkins wasn't fighting the same type of fight Hagler would as for Hagler he lost to natural Welterweight Leonard yes some may argue with decision or that it wasn't quite a prime Hagler but it wasn't far off and he still lost so in a 12 round bout i think Jones has the tools to beat Hagler.
Also it wasn't even close to a prime Leonard who faced Hagler, and he had been out of the sport for like 3 years before the fight. Against Bernard Roy had a broken right hand which forced him fight differently, and he wasn't in his prime yet.
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I am going to correct my statement because Roy wouldn't destroy Hagler, but he would win by a larger margin. I can't see Hagler beating Toney either.
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I think roy would of beaten him pretty bad tbh...
I doubt he would of stopped him, i think it would of been a backfoot type of win for Roy, using his skills, speed and footwork to take it to a pretty one sided UD
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
tooooooooooooooooooooo much speed hagler would get hit too many times..and yea marvin was as tough as they come and impossible to hurt with one punch..
but roy had just as much if not more power than hagler..and he'd hit hagler with too many punches and stop him late 10 or 11 maybe even 12..but hagler gets stopped
the funny thing about this is hagler beat a roy jones in 1977 by tko..but the roy we're speaking of stops him...
Hagler beat Roy Jones father in 1977.
