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Warren Moon and Jeff George are my all-time favs.
CC man. I loved watching Jeff George and have recieved my fair share of ridicule.
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Marino
when manning done he probaly gonna be the best
Peyton already has more Superbowl wins than Marino does
Peyton also has 3 times the running game Marino EVER had
Running games. pssshhh. I like those throw-back guys that stayed in the pocket and shot the ball out there. Look at Vick, while a great runner and athlete.......he is a prime example that a running game has is def. limits.
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I'm a huge Dolphins fan so I gotta put Dan up there...to me he is the greatest pure passer I've ever seen, but I have to admit if I'm taking one guy to QB my team its Steve Young....highest career passer rating...nuff said. You figure he didn't get to start early in his career then was forced to retire due to concussions. Had he played a full career I think hed be top three in all stat categories....Peyton is making a pretty good run at the top as well.
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Running games. pssshhh. I like those throw-back guys that stayed in the pocket and shot the ball out there. Look at Vick, while a great runner and athlete.......he is a prime example that a running game has is def. limits.
Yeah well running as a QB isn't bad but you must be smart with it a la Steve Young.....Michael Vick just isn't a bright QB
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Running games. pssshhh. I like those throw-back guys that stayed in the pocket and shot the ball out there. Look at Vick, while a great runner and athlete.......he is a prime example that a running game has is def. limits.
Yeah well running as a QB isn't bad but you must be smart with it a la Steve Young.....Michael Vick just isn't a bright QB
That is the understatement of the week.
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I'm a huge Dolphins fan so I gotta put Dan up there...to me he is the greatest pure passer I've ever seen, but I have to admit if I'm taking one guy to QB my team its Steve Young....highest career passer rating...nuff said. You figure he didn't get to start early in his career then was forced to retire due to concussions. Had he played a full career I think hed be top three in all stat categories....Peyton is making a pretty good run at the top as well.
During the afc title game, he stowed his thumb and told his back up to be ready. What kinda of pus almost doesn't finish the biggest game of his career because his thumb hurts?
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John Elway was the greatest quarterback of all time.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
John Elway was the greatest quarterback of all time.
Which is why he won 2 of 4 Super Bowls and Joe Montana won every single Super Bowl he was ever in
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John Elway was the greatest quarterback of all time.
Which is why he won 2 of 4 Super Bowls and Joe Montana won every single Super Bowl he was ever in
Elway didn't have the weapons Montana had. Montana I think is the 2nd greatest quarterback of all time.
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John Elway was the greatest quarterback of all time.
Which is why he won 2 of 4 Super Bowls and Joe Montana won every single Super Bowl he was ever in
Elway didn't have the weapons Montana had. Montana I think is the 2nd greatest quarterback of all time.
Thats an understatement. Elway probably even had worse teams than favre and he still got it done.
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Elway is a great QB, but he doesn't make it to the last two Superbowls w/o Terrel Davis steam rolling over teams. Winning superbowls is important, but not that big of deal. Some guys just never play on a team with that much talent....Troy Aikman was on one of most dominant teams in NFL history and one two superbowls but I wouldn't even put the guy in my top 10 QB's. Same with Namath or Sims. Dilfer/Rypien/Williams the list of superbowl winning QB's that aren't on anybody's ATG list goes on forever. Montana was a great QB, but if we are just talking about individual skill, he is just outside the top 5 to me.
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Warren Moon and Jeff George are my all-time favs.
man I used to love watching Moon in the run and shoot....its to bad that george was such an ass hole....unreal arm strength
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
John Elway was the greatest quarterback of all time.
Which is why he won 2 of 4 Super Bowls and Joe Montana won every single Super Bowl he was ever in
Elway didn't have the weapons Montana had. Montana I think is the 2nd greatest quarterback of all time.
BULLCRAP.... 1987 Great Defense, PRO BOWL Running Back Sammy Winder, wide receivers Mark Jackson, Vance Johnson, Steve Watson, and tight end Orson Mobley, Great O-Line
1988 - same guys....and they lost again
Don't get me started on how deep they were when they actually WON
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
John Elway was the greatest quarterback of all time.
Which is why he won 2 of 4 Super Bowls and Joe Montana won every single Super Bowl he was ever in
Elway didn't have the weapons Montana had. Montana I think is the 2nd greatest quarterback of all time.
BULLCRAP.... 1987 Great Defense, PRO BOWL Running Back Sammy Winder, wide receivers
Mark Jackson, Vance Johnson, Steve Watson, and tight end Orson Mobley, Great O-Line
1988 - same guys....and they lost again
Don't get me started on how deep they were when they actually WON
Aw Man!!! you forgot Ricky Nattiel ;D
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As far as i'm concerned, its almost football season. I'm pretty sure you know who's gonna be my number 1 but i dare you to prove otherwise.
1. Brett Favre (Green Bay)- Most consecutive starts among quarterbacks (the second most injury prone position in the sport). Future owner of every passing (and just about everything else) record thats measurable. He's a lot more mobile than people give him credit for. He's also pretty high up there on the 4th quarter comebacks list. He's got the stats, the ring, and the intangibles that make a great quarterback. He's the most untechnically sound qb that nobody shows films of when teaching young qb's how to play and takes more risks than any other qb and they usually pay off.
2. John Elway (Denver)- All time most sacked quarterback in nfl history 512 if thats not toughness i dunno what is. When you couple that with his stats, the fact that hes the all time leader in 4th quarter comebacks, and the lack of talent he had around him, you have to put him high on the list especially after his storybook ending to his career.
3. Joe Montana (San Fransico)- Had his fair share of 4th quarter comebacks and was the best qb under pressure. 16-7 in the playoffs... There's some teams that haven't won 16 playoff games yet. Not a big armed qb who single handedly redefined what the quarterback position was about. He took importance off of power and emphasized accuracy and technique.
4. Dan Marino (Miami)- Put up stats like you wouldn't believe and if he had a ring, he'd be #1 without question.
Here's a spot that troubles alot of people. Bradshaw, Aikman, Kelly, Young, and Starr are the usual suspects here because they were more or less dynasty qb's but im gonna go out of the box:
5. Rich Gannon (Oakland and many other places)- Now here's a guy who could do it all. Side Arm, OverHand, w/e the third thing is called. If he was put in a west coast offense set earlier, He'd of been unbelieveable. Now this is an odd pick for most because he didn't win alot for most of his career and only had a few good years once he was in oakland. He got beat in a superbowl because the opposing teams coach basically knew his playbook and what he was gonna do before he did it. If you don't think he was a great qb, look at what oakland turned into once he left. They struggle to win any games let alone playoff games. They went from one of the best teams to the absolute worse team. The sign of a great qb is how hard he is to replace. They haven't done it yet in Denver, Miami, Oakland, San Fransico, Dallas, or Buffalo and Green Bay is gonna be facing that same problem soon enough.
Rich Gannon over Tom Brady? That was a joke, right?
Other than Gannon, that's decent list of post 1980 QB's, and it's hard to rate quarterbacks of previous era's against post 1980's qbs. To make my top 5, in no particular order, I would remove Gannon, obviously, and and Tom Brady. Then I would remove Dan Marino, and add Manning, because he never won it all, as great as he was. It might be unfair, and he would on my top six, but he gets penalized for never winning the big one.
If I had to pick one, I would have to give it to Elway and Montana. I can't pick just one. Elway and Montana tie for number one in my book. Once Brady wins his next Superbowl, this year, he'll make the leap take over first place by himself.
