Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
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Originally Posted by Mr140
I think leonard was better then hearns and duran and think out of the 3 he be the hardest for PBf.
I also think Leonard was the best of the lot....And would beat PBF at welter.
I think they all beat him , i mean come on hes not fooking superman lol
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by Mr140
PBF is a good fighter but seems to me that he just missing something i mean the best win i think he has is over old Oscar not a shot Oscar but a old one but that is not his fault can't blame him for his era. But my question is how would he have done in the era of Duran, Leonard and Hearns. Would he still be undefeated and consider the pound for pound best my thoughts are no he wouldn't but thats is just my opinion and i am curse to hear your thoughts one the subject.
He would of beat Duran but would have lost to Leonard and Hearns.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
hmmmm i would say PBF is slower then SRL....especially at combo punching personally! All depends how you rated the fab 4 i suppose...and in what order! I think PBF would be beaten by SRL, Hagler...not sure about Hearns, becuase he was such a tricky customer which the rangey power punches...i think Mayweather vs Duran would be veryyyyy interesting!
PBF has more explosive speed, but he doesn't throw combinations the same way. 130-135 pound Mayweather was faster than Leonard, but latter on I think they equaled out in speed or maybe little in favor of Mayweather. I think Mayweather would beat Duran in close fights from 135-147 or split wins like Leonard did with Duran, I think he would go on the offensive against Leonard like he did against Judah, and win a close decision. Against Hearns I think he gets outboxed early because of Hearns' height and speed, but then Mayweather will work inside and eventually take over the fight as Hearns would tire out. Hagler... Mayweather would have never fought Hagler.
While I know these guys are all bigger than Mayweather, and comparible athletes I think he is a more schooled fighter than any of them.
Its easy to say Mayweather would work on inside against Hearns but i disagree you honestly think he would work on inside with Hearns power that would ko Mayweather instantly if he hit Mayweather with his right hand which he did too mostly everyone Hearns was monster at Welterweight and would beat stuffing out of Mayweather its not that easy to get inside against someone of the size of Hearns and as they were trying Hearns would hit them with right hand Hearns wouldn't just stand there and let Mayweather work on inside he would be on his toes and ready to blast that right hand out when Mayweather gets close.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
hmmmm i would say PBF is slower then SRL....especially at combo punching personally! All depends how you rated the fab 4 i suppose...and in what order! I think PBF would be beaten by SRL, Hagler...not sure about Hearns, becuase he was such a tricky customer which the rangey power punches...i think Mayweather vs Duran would be veryyyyy interesting!
PBF has more explosive speed, but he doesn't throw combinations the same way. 130-135 pound Mayweather was faster than Leonard, but latter on I think they equaled out in speed or maybe little in favor of Mayweather. I think Mayweather would beat Duran in close fights from 135-147 or split wins like Leonard did with Duran, I think he would go on the offensive against Leonard like he did against Judah, and win a close decision. Against Hearns I think he gets outboxed early because of Hearns' height and speed, but then Mayweather will work inside and eventually take over the fight as Hearns would tire out. Hagler... Mayweather would have never fought Hagler.
While I know these guys are all bigger than Mayweather, and comparible athletes I think he is a more schooled fighter than any of them.
Its easy to say Mayweather would work on inside against Hearns but i disagree you honestly think he would work on inside with Hearns power that woukd ko Mayweather instantly if he hit Mayweather with his right hand which he did too mostly everyone Hearns was monster at Welterweight and would beat stuffing out of Mayweather.
BINGO ICE , Tommy Hearns kicks the living crap out of a small former superfeather in mayweather , and i mean easy to ,
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
No waY would Pbf ever have entered a ring with Tommy. He's already selective about who he fights (strangely floating by Margarito ^-^) But Tommy Hearns? I dont care if Floyd can go 12 rounds and only get hit with mayb20% of punches. All tommy Hearns needed was a 1% connect percentage and there were problems.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
He would make a good fight against each but he would not remain undefeated. Hell, even Leonard, who is considered the best of the bunch, did not remian undefeated.
I also don't think he would remian undefeated if he had come up just 6 or 7 years ago around the time when you had Prime Oscar, Prime Mosley, Prime Tito, Prime Vargas and Prime Quartey, all within 147 and 154. One of these guys would have beat him at some point. You just can't stay undefeated with this kind of opposition. Nobody is that untouchable. It's a shame these guys didn't fight eachother more often. They could have rivaled the fav-4 IMHO.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
he would be 38-4
loss to hagler
loss to hearns
loss to duran
loss to leonard.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
Duran at 135 would massacre Floyd and at 147 he'd give a hard fight to him too
Leonard at 140-160 would beat Floyd
Hearns would whip his ass no matter what weight class
Hagler would thump him out at 160
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People need to get their heads out of the @sses of the 4 greats of the 80s, and you're especially dumb if you think any well rounded fighter of elite caliber can be massacred by any one.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
Floyd is a highly skilled fighter with great defense...so i don't think he would embarrass himself against any of the three (or 4, if you include Hagler)...BUT...it would be a tough match up for him against any of them...especially the larger guys. Some people have mentioned how Tommy didn't fight well on the inside...but how the hell would Floyd get in the inside against such a rangy, powerful fighter like Hearns (and don't forget, Hearns had a tremendous jab). Duran would be his best chance...and Duran was a MONSTER puncher who pressured you...so that would be a risky fight as well...and we all know...Floyd doesn't take big risks.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Floyd is a highly skilled fighter with great defense...so i don't think he would embarrass himself against any of the three (or 4, if you include Hagler)...BUT...it would be a tough match up for him against any of them...especially the larger guys. Some people have mentioned how Tommy didn't fight well on the inside...but how the hell would Floyd get in the inside against such a rangy, powerful fighter like Hearns (and don't forget, Hearns had a tremendous jab). Duran would be his best chance...and Duran was a MONSTER puncher who pressured you...so that would be a risky fight as well...and we all know...Floyd doesn't take big risks.
CC,good post.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
hmmmm i would say PBF is slower then SRL....especially at combo punching personally! All depends how you rated the fab 4 i suppose...and in what order! I think PBF would be beaten by SRL, Hagler...not sure about Hearns, becuase he was such a tricky customer which the rangey power punches...i think Mayweather vs Duran would be veryyyyy interesting!
PBF has more explosive speed, but he doesn't throw combinations the same way. 130-135 pound Mayweather was faster than Leonard, but latter on I think they equaled out in speed or maybe little in favor of Mayweather. I think Mayweather would beat Duran in close fights from 135-147 or split wins like Leonard did with Duran, I think he would go on the offensive against Leonard like he did against Judah, and win a close decision. Against Hearns I think he gets outboxed early because of Hearns' height and speed, but then Mayweather will work inside and eventually take over the fight as Hearns would tire out. Hagler... Mayweather would have never fought Hagler.
While I know these guys are all bigger than Mayweather, and comparible athletes I think he is a more schooled fighter than any of them.
Its easy to say Mayweather would work on inside against Hearns but i disagree you honestly think he would work on inside with Hearns power that would ko Mayweather instantly if he hit Mayweather with his right hand which he did too mostly everyone Hearns was monster at Welterweight and would beat stuffing out of Mayweather its not that easy to get inside against someone of the size of Hearns and as they were trying Hearns would hit them with right hand Hearns wouldn't just stand there and let Mayweather work on inside he would be on his toes and ready to blast that right hand out when Mayweather gets close.
Mayweather hasn't even been closed to sparked by any punch. I don't think Mayweather could get inside early on in the fight, but I think he has the reflexes to stay out of the way of almost everyone Hearns would throw. Even though he got totally outboxed Randy Shields was able to work inside on Hearns for 12 rounds before he got stopped by cuts. Leonard was able to get inside on Hearns relatively easily. While Hearns was tall he was also a stick. I don't think Hearns had a very strong lower body which allowed him to move in and out quickly. Hearns would begin the fight by chasing Mayweather around with his jab and occasional right hand, but eventually Mayweather would slip them, and get into the pocket where he would take Hearns apart one punch at a time. Mayweather is very good against taller opponents, and his left jab to the body would take some speed out of Hearns. I think if Hearns had better stamina he would easily win, but he doesn't.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
Mayweather has never faced a guy of hearns reach and Leonard did get in after taking a beating to the face and his eyes were closing i don't think PBF has the balls to try to get close to hearns.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
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Originally Posted by Mr140
I think leonard was better then hearns and duran and think out of the 3 he be the hardest for PBf.
I also think Leonard was the best of the lot....And would beat PBF at welter.
I think they all beat him , i mean come on hes not fooking superman lol
I think Floyd would beat Duran but lose to Leonard and Hearns. Floyd is good now with the guys who he is fighting, but those guys back then were all that level. Floyd would be in the company of guys just as good as him only bigger. He would not beat Tommy Hearns no way. Leonard no way either. Duran? Duran is just the guy Floyd could beat. A good boxer beats Duran.
Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
hmmmm i would say PBF is slower then SRL....especially at combo punching personally! All depends how you rated the fab 4 i suppose...and in what order! I think PBF would be beaten by SRL, Hagler...not sure about Hearns, becuase he was such a tricky customer which the rangey power punches...i think Mayweather vs Duran would be veryyyyy interesting!
PBF has more explosive speed, but he doesn't throw combinations the same way. 130-135 pound Mayweather was faster than Leonard, but latter on I think they equaled out in speed or maybe little in favor of Mayweather. I think Mayweather would beat Duran in close fights from 135-147 or split wins like Leonard did with Duran, I think he would go on the offensive against Leonard like he did against Judah, and win a close decision. Against Hearns I think he gets outboxed early because of Hearns' height and speed, but then Mayweather will work inside and eventually take over the fight as Hearns would tire out. Hagler... Mayweather would have never fought Hagler.
While I know these guys are all bigger than Mayweather, and comparible athletes I think he is a more schooled fighter than any of them.
Its easy to say Mayweather would work on inside against Hearns but i disagree you honestly think he would work on inside with Hearns power that would ko Mayweather instantly if he hit Mayweather with his right hand which he did too mostly everyone Hearns was monster at Welterweight and would beat stuffing out of Mayweather its not that easy to get inside against someone of the size of Hearns and as they were trying Hearns would hit them with right hand Hearns wouldn't just stand there and let Mayweather work on inside he would be on his toes and ready to blast that right hand out when Mayweather gets close.
Mayweather hasn't even been closed to sparked by any punch. I don't think Mayweather could get inside early on in the fight, but I think he has the reflexes to stay out of the way of almost everyone Hearns would throw. Even though he got totally outboxed Randy Shields was able to work inside on Hearns for 12 rounds before he got stopped by cuts. Leonard was able to get inside on Hearns relatively easily. While Hearns was tall he was also a stick. I don't think Hearns had a very strong lower body which allowed him to move in and out quickly. Hearns would begin the fight by chasing Mayweather around with his jab and occasional right hand, but eventually Mayweather would slip them, and get into the pocket where he would take Hearns apart one punch at a time. Mayweather is very good against taller opponents, and his left jab to the body would take some speed out of Hearns. I think if Hearns had better stamina he would easily win, but he doesn't.
When has Mayweather ever been hit though only against Corley.
