Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
pacman beat him easily in that fight barrera basicly quit, jones beat him easily twice. you wanna stick jones in the hall of fame?
i just don't see how barrera is overrated, but duran isn't..but then again maybe one can't see why i think duran is overrated and barrera isn't....
my point about duran is, he was ATG but top 10 p4p is ridiculous..
I get your point he did lose to the great manny pacquioa and lost to a good junior jones.
the only way for him to be considered great he would have had to beat juarez, tapia, morrales, ayala, kelley, hamed, mckinney..wait, he did beat them....with those fights alone his record would be
9-3 against fighters from the unanimous "*non-bum" category...which makes his winning percentage 75% against absolutely unquestionable opponents..which is more than i can say for Duran...
*"non-bum" - means everyone would vote 100% that this fighter isn't a bum and is at least a good fighter...
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
pacman beat him easily in that fight barrera basicly quit, jones beat him easily twice. you wanna stick jones in the hall of fame?
i just don't see how barrera is overrated, but duran isn't..but then again maybe one can't see why i think duran is overrated and barrera isn't....
my point about duran is, he was ATG but top 10 p4p is ridiculous..
I get your point he did lose to the great manny pacquioa and lost to a good junior jones.
the only way for him to be considered great he would have had to beat juarez, tapia, morrales, ayala, kelley, hamed, mckinney..wait, he did beat them....with those fights alone his record would be
9-3 against fighters from the unanimous "*non-bum" category...which makes his winning percentage 75% against absolutely unquestionable opponents..which is more than i can say for Duran...
*"non-bum" - means everyone would vote 100% that this fighter isn't a bum and is at least a good fighter...
He beat some decent opponents, but that dont make him a legend. tapia was finished and barrera could only beat him on points.
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
pacman beat him easily in that fight barrera basicly quit, jones beat him easily twice. you wanna stick jones in the hall of fame?
i just don't see how barrera is overrated, but duran isn't..but then again maybe one can't see why i think duran is overrated and barrera isn't....
my point about duran is, he was ATG but top 10 p4p is ridiculous..
I get your point he did lose to the great manny pacquioa and lost to a good junior jones.
the only way for him to be considered great he would have had to beat juarez, tapia, morrales, ayala, kelley, hamed, mckinney..wait, he did beat them....with those fights alone his record would be
9-3 against fighters from the unanimous "*non-bum" category...which makes his winning percentage 75% against absolutely unquestionable opponents..which is more than i can say for Duran...
*"non-bum" - means everyone would vote 100% that this fighter isn't a bum and is at least a good fighter...
He beat some decent opponents, but that dont make him a legend. tapia was finished and barrera could only beat him on points.
no one said he was a legend..but he is a great fighter and overrated is ridiculous..if they called him top 10 p4p then he'd be overrated....
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
Well whether you rate Barrerra highly or not he will go down in everybodies book as one of the most entertaining fighters of any generation...
Re: Even the most classy show acts of desperation
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Seriously SEANIE - if you think all this about Barera you must be more clueless than LAWHOOPS ;)
pacman beat him easily in that fight barrera basicly quit, jones beat him easily twice. you wanna stick jones in the hall of fame?
i just don't see how barrera is overrated, but duran isn't..but then again maybe one can't see why i think duran is overrated and barrera isn't....
my point about duran is, he was ATG but top 10 p4p is ridiculous..
I get your point he did lose to the great manny pacquioa and lost to a good junior jones.
the only way for him to be considered great he would have had to beat juarez, tapia, morrales, ayala, kelley, hamed, mckinney..wait, he did beat them....with those fights alone his record would be
9-3 against fighters from the unanimous "*non-bum" category...which makes his winning percentage 75% against absolutely unquestionable opponents..which is more than i can say for Duran...
*"non-bum" - means everyone would vote 100% that this fighter isn't a bum and is at least a good fighter...
He beat some decent opponents, but that dont make him a legend. tapia was finished and barrera could only beat him on points.
First Barrera was only average, now you're saying his opponents were decent!! Erik Morales says hello.
