Re: Boxing is getting to soft
i disagree. i think this is one of the best years boxing has had since the rise of MMA. finally, the top boxers are wanting to fight the top boxers. we've seen so many great matches in the past year. boxing is NOT getting soft IMO.
Re: Boxing is getting to soft
if not for all fights just champships is what i think 15 rounds would be good and yea i know what boxer go through but if they could do it in the old days i am sure they could do it now and for a championship fight i am sure 15 rounds should be out of the question
Re: Boxing is getting to soft
I don't think there is a need for 15 rounders, but I do think that fighters at the championship level
should fight more often.
4 times a year should be good.
that's enough time to train get in great shape and still have off time for friends and family.
Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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If a 12 round match saves more lifes i couldnt care a less what people think about the sport
I'd rather an extra death or two a year to bring the sport back to its glory days. Makes it more exciting.
that's a really pitiful post Bilbo.....I know you try to push some buttons and irk a few (most) on this site I never expected to see you advocating "Blood sport".....1 death in boxing or any sport is too much....the glory days are gone because boxing left it's fanbase.....PPV destroyed boxing...sure some super ultra mega fights might warrant a PPV but not 90% of the fights that are on it today....when boxing left national telivision it started to decline.....
Oh come on bigaru you know I ain't being serious ;)
Actually I agree pretty much with your analysis, you make a good point have a :coolclick:
Bilbo your a fucking moron. I'm losing respect for you all the time.
Wow. You had respect for him?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by The_One77
If a 12 round match saves more lifes i couldnt care a less what people think about the sport
I'd rather an extra death or two a year to bring the sport back to its glory days. Makes it more exciting.
that's a really pitiful post Bilbo.....I know you try to push some buttons and irk a few (most) on this site I never expected to see you advocating "Blood sport".....1 death in boxing or any sport is too much....the glory days are gone because boxing left it's fanbase.....PPV destroyed boxing...sure some super ultra mega fights might warrant a PPV but not 90% of the fights that are on it today....when boxing left national telivision it started to decline.....
Oh come on bigaru you know I ain't being serious ;)
Actually I agree pretty much with your analysis, you make a good point have a :coolclick:
Bilbo your a F****** moron. I'm losing respect for you all the time.
Wow. You had respect for him?
;D
I see no issues with 15 rounds. We've had a lot of very close top level fights this year. They would have been decided over 15.
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see that one reason that a 15 rounder would be a good thing for close fights good point miles
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see that one reason that a 15 rounder would be a good thing for close fights good point miles
Yeah more Jerry Quarry's would be a great thing
Nothing better then watching your hero's years later shaking like a leaf
Try having a conversation with Joe Frazier,or Ali
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As far as Ali goes he got Parkinson's disease and that could of happend weather he boxed or not
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As far as Ali goes he got Parkinson's disease and that could of happend weather he boxed or not
Name a fighter from the 15 round era(not Foreman his fights almost never went that long) that speaks clearly
They all could back then
Norton was so well spoken he had a minor acting career,now he sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth
Holmes
Frazier
Norton
Quarry
Ali
Chuvallo
They all sound like hell
These are people,not simian cockfighters for your amusement
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Originally Posted by Mr140
see that one reason that a 15 rounder would be a good thing for close fights good point miles
Yeah more Jerry Quarry's would be a great thing
Nothing better then watching your hero's years later shaking like a leaf
Try having a conversation with Joe Frazier,or Ali
:goodpost: Monkey. 36 minutes/12 rounds of fighting is enough time to do what u have to do. Boxing, like anything that stay arond for an extended period will/has evolved. I wouldn't like to see the x-tra punishment.
Someone posted that they want to see guys not being able to stand after fights. 12 rounds is a long time & a guy that wants to leave it all in the ring after goin 12 can do so. If u want to burn urself out running 2 miles balls out, u can do that. If u want to jog 4 miles at a slow pace, u may not even be tired.
Hey guys, maybe fighters should wear 6 oz. gloves & dip them into glue & glass before matches. :Sarcasm:
Whoever beleives that 12 rounds makes boxing "soft" is off IMO. I would venture to say that they have never swapped shots for many if any rounds with another.
The severity/accelerated rate of Ali's parkinson's has been linked to his days of boxing on more than one occasion that I can remember.
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Well if not 15 rounds for heavyweights then maybe for lighter weights and no i dont feel that way about the fighters dont get so mad it was just a idea nothing more not like i still dont like boxing i just liked it when it went 15 rounds whats wrong with that my god. Then people are saying i dont know what it takes to get in the ring and what does that have to do with any thing i mean unless the person saying that boxed at some point he doesn't know either and not like i want people to die. All i said was i wish it was 15 rounds again and not to have it stopped prematurely which seems to happen more now then back then that is i was saying nothing more nothing less.
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Well if not 15 rounds for heavyweights then maybe for lighter weights and no i dont feel that way about the fighters dont get so mad it was just a idea nothing more not like i still dont like boxing i just liked it when it went 15 rounds whats wrong with that my god. Then people are saying i dont know what it takes to get in the ring and what does that have to do with any thing i mean unless the person saying that boxed at some point he doesn't know either and not like i want people to die. All i said was i wish it was 15 rounds again and not to have it stopped prematurely which seems to happen more now then back then that is i was saying nothing more nothing less.
Bra,heres a wee bit of hint
We have some fighters,trainers,and managers on here
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Well if not 15 rounds for heavyweights then maybe for lighter weights and no i dont feel that way about the fighters dont get so mad it was just a idea nothing more not like i still dont like boxing i just liked it when it went 15 rounds whats wrong with that my god. Then people are saying i dont know what it takes to get in the ring and what does that have to do with any thing i mean unless the person saying that boxed at some point he doesn't know either and not like i want people to die. All i said was i wish it was 15 rounds again and not to have it stopped prematurely which seems to happen more now then back then that is i was saying nothing more nothing less.
I don't think that u meant anything bad by ur post. But alot of people on this forum has different levels of boxing experience. From people that train only, had their first day of sparring, trainers, managers, active amateurs, & pro experience. Most of these people IMO disagree with the insinuation of ur lack of personal boxing experience has nothing to do with anything. If u were to spar 2,3,4,5 x 3 minute rounds, u may change ur opinion.
Thing have evolved & changed for reasons. Not just because somebody just woke up one day & said "let's make championship fights 12 instead of 15 rounds." But hey, ur entitled to ur own opinion. Just have ur ducks in a row on this forum because some people will test ur theory by stating not only opinions but facts. They will ask the tough questions.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Mr140
see that one reason that a 15 rounder would be a good thing for close fights good point miles
Yeah more Jerry Quarry's would be a great thing
Nothing better then watching your hero's years later shaking like a leaf
Try having a conversation with Joe Frazier,or Ali
:goodpost: Monkey. 36 minutes/12 rounds of fighting is enough time to do what u have to do. Boxing, like anything that stay arond for an extended period will/has evolved. I wouldn't like to see the x-tra punishment.
Someone posted that they want to see guys not being able to stand after fights. 12 rounds is a long time & a guy that wants to leave it all in the ring after goin 12 can do so. If u want to burn urself out running 2 miles balls out, u can do that. If u want to jog 4 miles at a slow pace, u may not even be tired.
Hey guys, maybe fighters should wear 6 oz. gloves & dip them into glue & glass before matches. :Sarcasm:
Whoever beleives that 12 rounds makes boxing "soft" is off IMO. I would venture to say that they have never swapped shots for many if any rounds with another.
The severity/accelerated rate of Ali's parkinson's has been linked to his days of boxing on more than one occasion that I can remember.
I swear to god,I can allways tell if a manager or a promoter Im talking to boxed in that era when we get calls
If I have to say "Excuse me" 3 times or more in a 5 minute conversation,they allmost allways did.
I dont even think theyre letting Joe awnser the phone anymore at Fraziers,you almost allways get Marvis,even when Jo IS in town
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OK well thank you for that silent and i guess all i have to say is all the things i heard have mostly been fighters in heavyweight division and maybe 15 isn't the way to go i Will give you that but from bantam weight to about Middle weight maybe just for championship fights 15 rounds wouldn't be to bad now is that unthinkable i dont think so and i wait to see what you think.
