Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Lacy, Kessler or Miranda ? How would any of this lot be overrated ? all 3 are exceptional prize fighters. could beat anyone in their weight class on any given day.
Lacy and Miranda could beat anyone in there division on any given day ??? I think you'll find that the are not the elite of there own weigh class and each of them would/have been owned by fighters in there divison already ???
Jeff got hurt bad in round 1 and 2 vs Calz, still had the fortitude to stay on his feet , Jeff fight on auto pilot , a lessor man would have been cashed out right there, Jeff showed guts in that fight. a good kid Jeff Lacy,His last fight he had rotator troubles , still finished, pulled out the win.. great fighter Jeff LAcy. overated fighters show lack of heart, non of these mentioned have done that.
Miranda brings that thunder and determination factor. will risk losing to win. great fighter Muiranda, put asses in seats these boys listed here . Top shelf
no one is saying miranda and lacy are complete bums but..
both were thought of by many(not all) to be great young fighters destined to take over their divisions and be THE MAN...
but they turned out to be just good fighters, not great... the definition of overrated..
Lacy has 1 loss on his record... Many fighters have been considerer upper echilon after numerous losses... to write off guys like Miranda and Lacy then throw dirt on them is extremely premature at this stage
the topic of this thread is about if lacy and miranda were overrated, not if they are good promising fighters....there is a difference....
like i said many(not all) but many people thought that miranda and lacy was going to be the unified champs and feared in their weight classes for years to come and both should have been dominating right now since both are in their primes...
but they turned into being good maybe even better than what i give them credit for, but they definatly arnt the world beaters they was suppose to be....
like i said that is the definition of being overrated..
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
When someone presents a multiple choice question, in this case the answers are...
a. Lacy
b. Kessler
c. Miranda
...you should pick the one you think is best. Kessler is underatted so he is NOT the MOST overrated. That leaves a or c.
In this case I pick c, Miranda. Of the three he would be the MOST overrated.
I am not saying that Pantera is a meaningless twit just that of the three choices given he would be the MOST overrated of the three--even it was just a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
Miranda's the worst fighter of the three IMO so I guess him.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
When someone presents a multiple choice question, in this case the answers are...
a. Lacy
b. Kessler
c. Miranda
...you should pick the one you think is best. Kessler is underatted so he is NOT the MOST overrated. That leaves a or c.
In this case I pick c, Miranda. Of the three he would be the MOST overrated.
I am not saying that Pantera is a meaningless twit just that of the three choices given he would be the MOST overrated of the three--even it was just a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10.
completely agree gorilla cc
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Kessler overrated. :lolhaha:
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
yes and no... right now i think kessler is close to the p4p top 10... but as of yet is still unproven...
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
...I vote for Kid Diamond and Nicolay Valuev
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
the most over-rated fighter since 2000....mike tyson....actually hes the most overrated fighter since 1995
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Miranda was not over rated, He just got beat. I think maybe Lacy
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that whats wrong with boxing now. you lose a good fight and people right you off.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
yes and no... right now i think kessler is close to the p4p top 10... but as of yet is still unproven...
Unproven????,39 fight 29 KO 0 lost and only lost 4-5 round in his career,unproven,i don`t get it???
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
yes and no... right now i think kessler is close to the p4p top 10... but as of yet is still unproven...
Unproven????,39 fight 29 KO 0 lost and only lost 4-5 round in his career,unproven,i don`t get it???
A record is one thing, but he hasn't fought the top echelon of fighters yet.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
yes and no... right now i think kessler is close to the p4p top 10... but as of yet is still unproven...
Unproven????,39 fight 29 KO 0 lost and only lost 4-5 round in his career,unproven,i don`t get it???
A record is one thing, but he hasn't fought the top echelon of fighters yet.
Kessler has beat The ring`s ratings number 2,5 and 6,so you can`t say he`s not has beat any top fighters
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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if you dont acknowledge that than u let your bias blind you severely that you make yourself look like a f#cking fool ;)
Let's just abandon the forum and turn Saddo's into Fire's blog. His opinion is the only one that counts, anyway, and that way he won't have to put up with all the absurdities of folks who don't agree with him.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
I am too tired to think right this second but I bet I can name at least 5 other guys more over rated then those 3 since 2000
I'll start though with at least one name.
Anyone remember a heavyweight named Michael Grant?
