Anyone here thinking Margarito should be speaking English?

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Sorry, but this thread is beyond ridiculous.

Antonio Margarito has lived in Mexico since he was one week old. Who cares if he speaks English?

Who cares what language any fighter speaks or doesn't speak?

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Why is learning and speaking English so ridiculous? You are saying learning something new or foreign is ridiculous? You come to this country to fight and you were born here and yet you still don't dare to speak her language? That is stupidity if you ask me.

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What does it matter if he was born here, he was back in Mexico when he was a week old!! That's like saying that if I was born when my parents were on vacation in China, then I should feel obligated to learn Chinese.

And what does it matter if he's fighting in the US? Should Lamon Brewster have conducted his postfight interview in German last week?

I'll always applaud someone for learning a second language, because it's an impressive thing to do, but Antonio Margarito is under no obligation to learn English. Personally, I'd rather have a fighter speak in his native language, where he can clearly express his thoughts thru an interpreter, instead of struggling to conduct an interview in a second language.

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CC for a MONTH TO YOU. Look at Cotto interviews he doesn't said what he really wants to say but yes he is trying. When he speaks spanish he uses very distiguish vocabulary.

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Originally Posted by Puya

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....I think speaking English is good for American citizens, I mean it wasn't tele-fucking-mundo interviewing him......I fucking HATE people who won't speak English and are American citizens or hell even visiting the country.

I went out of the country and tried my best to understand foreign languages and use them and so on, it's just a matter of respect.


And before anyone asks YES you can respect where you are while remembering where you are from, it's the way it's supposed to be

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You see Lyle Americans Travel around the world and most of them complain why people doesn't know english at foreign contries. Can you believe that crap. So basically I'm saying that while people try to learn english americans never try to learn another language. take me for and example my everyday is in spanish but I manage to learn english I get mad when and american come visit Puerto Rico he complains that some people doesn't talk english and when I told the guy "Hey you are in Puerto Rico why you should try to talk spanish" he got mad.

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I believe it....there are assholes from all nations Puya, America only has a few if you can believe that ;D

I am not one of those Americans that goes and insults anyone else's culture (I know it's hard to believe but it's true) I try to learn about different cultures and different people and respect them in hopes that people will come to America and respect our culture.

I know a bunch of spanish, I learned some french while I was in Europe but it's different there as if I am not mistake most Europeans learn English in school but I still tried to use as much french as possible.


....can you believe we have people coming to America illegally and going to schools that tax payers pay for and they (the illegal immigrants) PROTEST (via hunger strike) to #1 strongarm congress into signing the Immigration Amnesty bill and HAD THAT BILL PASSED, these bastards who are here ILLEGALLY! would not have had to pay out of state tuition and would have probably been given minority status meaning they would have been given spaces in the colleges over regular citizens.

IMO that is a huge show of disrespect to America and it's citizens

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Considering the fact that Tony was born in these here United States, should this kid have learned English?

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I don't have too much of an issue with that...as much as I do the fact that he's a sore loser & is still bumping his gums even though he's still gettin lined up for Cotto.

Fuck Margarito.

Sorry Margarito fans...really...I know that's harsh...but he lost & he's acting like a fucking baby over it...take your lumps & leave it at that.

You got out boxed & out shined.

Everybody hates us, but everybody wants to come here. What's up with that?

I don't understand what Tony's success in boxing has to do with speaking english. I thought you need only to hit your opponent with maximum leverage and not get hit to win fights, speaking to the ref, taunting you opponent with that lil "C'mon, yo bitch" and giving interviews to Larry Merchant doesn't win fights or shouldn't win fights. Please, don't tell me that Tony should fight every cinco de Mayo or have Mark Anthony singing "Mexicanos, al grito de guerra..." in englsh too? Stop with the non-sense, I believed Tony would break Paul's ribs and he didn't, was hit too many times and lost.Period. But Tony is still a very dangerous fighter to anyone including Floyd and Paul is still very hard to beat by anyone including Tony. God Bless, Respect but no non-sense, clowning in Pro Fighting plz?

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Originally Posted by Canvasback

Everybody hates us, but everybody wants to come here. What's up with that?

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Out of Topic. We are discussing languages in the US. like Lyle says that in the form of respect you should at least try to speak the language you are visiting.

Don't see the word hate from anybody well maybe cutmemick and I am with him on that ;D

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....can you believe we have people coming to America illegally and going to schools that tax payers pay for and they (the illegal immigrants) PROTEST (via hunger strike) to #1 strongarm congress into signing the Immigration Amnesty bill and HAD THAT BILL PASSED, these bastards who are here ILLEGALLY! would not have had to pay out of state tuition and would have probably been given minority status meaning they would have been given spaces in the colleges over regular citizens.

IMO that is a huge show of disrespect to America and it's citizens

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Let me say this on that...

I hate the fact that the bill was not passed...but that bill was a turd in a toilet, IWO, from the start.

There are too many American companies making too much profit off of illegal immigrants for that bill to pass & too many of those American companies making too much profit off of illegal immigrants are lining to many senators & fat cat's pockets for that bill to pass in the first place.

Governments are so gotdam corrupt it makes me sick!

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Originally Posted by Puya

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....I think speaking English is good for American citizens, I mean it wasn't tele-F******-mundo interviewing him......I F****** HATE people who won't speak English and are American citizens or hell even visiting the country.

I went out of the country and tried my best to understand foreign languages and use them and so on, it's just a matter of respect.


And before anyone asks YES you can respect where you are while remembering where you are from, it's the way it's supposed to be

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You see Lyle Americans Travel around the world and most of them complain why people doesn't know english at foreign contries. Can you believe that crap. So basically I'm saying that while people try to learn english americans never try to learn another language. take me for and example my everyday is in spanish but I manage to learn english I get mad when and american come visit Puerto Rico he complains that some people doesn't talk english and when I told the guy "Hey you are in Puerto Rico why you should try to talk spanish" he got mad.

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lmao learn an entire foreign language just because your visiting there? now thats funny.
Yes "english" speaking people who go to another country and get aggrivated at the non english speaking people is just silly. However lyle brings up a great point. You come to this country (usa) speak the god damn language. Pretty simple. You work in this country? Speak the god damn language.
My family moved to this country in 1976. my grandparents and their 11 kids all learned god damn english in 6 months. Its pathetic when i go to the DMV and i see 200 people all using the same god damn translator. Makes me wonder, you cant read/speak english, and your driving?
GOD DAMN!

I'd rather hear a man speak in a language he is comfortable with than watch him struggle to complete a sentence.

Some of you believe that these men we call "warriors" should step out of the ring and be forced to speak English? You can't conquer them in the ring so you try to humiliate them outside of it?

Boxing is a sport not a fast food joint. The service they provide makes language irrelevant. We understand left hooks and knockdowns and that is all that matters. No one is trying to order a cheeseburger without pickles.

Also, what about the men who fight all over the world?

Should O'neil Bell learn to speak french? Should Tony Thompson have brushed up on his german? No and no.

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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

I don't think him speaking english is relevant to how he fights. I think he should try and he may be able to make more of a case the next time he feels he got robbed by stating his case rather than shaking his head at his opponent while the guy is shaking his hand at the end of the fight .. and/or turning up his nose at the decision... that just makes him look like a poor sport.

I think its just another fight where the guy who lost was frustrated and reaching for reasons he got outpointed that night. Magarito is probably used to be the bigger fighter. The reach factor was probably a big frustration. Add to the Williams's work rate and the fact that Williams tied up margarito on the inside. Williams was very beatable though. Especially when he wore himself out early. He was open for an overhand right all night and practically begging for it when he was stumbling out of fatigue.

Margarito did catch a lot of punches on the gloves but .. when offense and defense are at a stale mate, judges have to look at whos the aggressor.. or who's got the better workrate. Its like when morales said he got beat by Raheem because Raheem wouldnt fight him like a man. Yes, its true Raheem spent a lot of the night running and holding.... but your opponent isnt supposed to cooperate with you ... thats what makes it a competition.

Williams seemed to come out with a tactic of stick and move and throw lots of punches... rather than a plan of setting up margarito for something big ... or picking away at a weakness. Had Margarito solved the puzzled, got under Williams punches and worked the body before getting tied up...Williams could have found himself dead in the water with no plan much less a plan B. I also think Williams has reached the point where he will need a better corner soon. One that will help him work smarter instead of harder. If he keeps up that pace for every fight... His career will be shortlived.

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Bolded the part you hit the nail on the head :coolclick:

Margarito should not have to speak English especially here in America.

Freedom of speech man, I am a constitutionalist.

People should be able to speak English, Spanish, French or Pig Latin if they want.

I think that it matters even less when there are translators available.

He should learns English. It will always improve fighter's marketability if they can.

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Originally Posted by No Contest

LOL! I know a little spanish and the translator was definately putting his spin on things. I cant stand the translating when they go in the corners, he uses that annoying voice like hes giving the advice, I think its that white haired guy, they use all the time. At least a translator should have a decent speaking voice.

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I FUCKIN LOVE THAT GUY


that guy is the man

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