Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
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Originally Posted by taansend
This is difficult. While I am not saying that a prime Calzaghe would beat a prime Jones (although you never know), Joe C's record at SuperMiddle is much better than RJJ.
Jones only made 5 defenses, although he beat Toney for the title. Saying that, Toney was DRAINED and didn't beat another prime opponent for NINE years (yes he didn't beat anyone until Jirov).
Calzaghe has made loads of defences even though they have been against mainly pony opposition.
Jones is a better fighter but Calzaghe is a better Suppermiddleweight
There has never been a better fighter than a 168 Roy Jones.
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
It was alot closer than I expected. One vote away from 50%
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
Takin Calzaghe. Just by the way he dismantled Manfredo. LOL
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by taansend
This is difficult. While I am not saying that a prime Calzaghe would beat a prime Jones (although you never know), Joe C's record at SuperMiddle is much better than RJJ.
Jones only made 5 defenses, although he beat Toney for the title. Saying that, Toney was DRAINED and didn't beat another prime opponent for NINE years (yes he didn't beat anyone until Jirov).
Calzaghe has made loads of defences even though they have been against mainly pony opposition.
Jones is a better fighter but Calzaghe is a better Suppermiddleweight
There has never been a better fighter than a 168 Roy Jones.
I agree Roy Jones Jr would beat Calzaghe. and Kessler.
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
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Originally Posted by southakron314
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by taansend
This is difficult. While I am not saying that a prime Calzaghe would beat a prime Jones (although you never know), Joe C's record at SuperMiddle is much better than RJJ.
Jones only made 5 defenses, although he beat Toney for the title. Saying that, Toney was DRAINED and didn't beat another prime opponent for NINE years (yes he didn't beat anyone until Jirov).
Calzaghe has made loads of defences even though they have been against mainly pony opposition.
Jones is a better fighter but Calzaghe is a better Suppermiddleweight
There has never been a better fighter than a 168 Roy Jones.
I agree Roy Jones Jr would beat Calzaghe. and Kessler.
I have to agree too
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by taansend
This is difficult. While I am not saying that a prime Calzaghe would beat a prime Jones (although you never know), Joe C's record at SuperMiddle is much better than RJJ.
Jones only made 5 defenses, although he beat Toney for the title. Saying that, Toney was DRAINED and didn't beat another prime opponent for NINE years (yes he didn't beat anyone until Jirov).
Calzaghe has made loads of defences even though they have been against mainly pony opposition.
Jones is a better fighter but Calzaghe is a better Suppermiddleweight
There has never been a better fighter than a 168 Roy Jones.
This is a strange one because the 168lbs version of Roy Jones is the greatest boxer I have seen in my lifetime but if I was to do a table of the greatest SMW of all time I think I would have to place Calzaghe on top due to the fact he stayed there most of his career and made so many defences of his (WBO i know) title, whereas Jones' spell at the weight was relatively short. Also Sven must get an honourable mention!
Back to the original point though. I didn't vote on this poll originally but I would have voted Kessler and been wrong so I've voted him anyway!
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by taansend
This is difficult. While I am not saying that a prime Calzaghe would beat a prime Jones (although you never know), Joe C's record at SuperMiddle is much better than RJJ.
Jones only made 5 defenses, although he beat Toney for the title. Saying that, Toney was DRAINED and didn't beat another prime opponent for NINE years (yes he didn't beat anyone until Jirov).
Calzaghe has made loads of defences even though they have been against mainly pony opposition.
Jones is a better fighter but Calzaghe is a better Suppermiddleweight
Back to the original point though. I didn't vote on this poll originally but I would have voted Kessler and been wrong so I've voted him anyway!
Kessler was the most talented pure boxer Calzaghe ever faced, he combines speed, power and skill. Kessler is one of the top young boxers around. I saw him KOd Beyer with one shot, he gave Andrade an incredible boxing lesson. Kessler's brand of clean crisp performance is something I'm not seeing from any other young boxer at the higher weights right now
To those who say that Joe fans only hype Kessler to make Joe look better, I say that while that may be true in some cases, its mostly wrong, because thinking that way presupposes that Kessler isn't actually any good. He is, he's the top guy at SMW and proved it by taking everyone elses belts up until he met Joe. You only have to look at him to see the amount of potential he has and what a difficult prospect he would be for anyone at SMW/ LHW
Re: Calzaghe vs. Kessler who wins?
Kessler is a great fighter and futre to 10p4p no doubt.
I hope he fights a name after his next bout and in America.
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rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by taansend
This is difficult. While I am not saying that a prime Calzaghe would beat a prime Jones (although you never know), Joe C's record at SuperMiddle is much better than RJJ.
Jones only made 5 defenses, although he beat Toney for the title. Saying that, Toney was DRAINED and didn't beat another prime opponent for NINE years (yes he didn't beat anyone until Jirov).
Calzaghe has made loads of defences even though they have been against mainly pony opposition.
Jones is a better fighter but Calzaghe is a better Suppermiddleweight
There has never been a better fighter than a 168 Roy Jones.
This is a strange one because the 168lbs version of Roy Jones is the greatest boxer I have seen in my lifetime but if I was to do a table of the greatest SMW of all time I think I would have to place Calzaghe on top due to the fact he stayed there most of his career and made so many defences of his (WBO i know) title, whereas Jones' spell at the weight was relatively short. Also Sven must get an honourable mention!
Back to the original point though. I didn't vote on this poll originally but I would have voted Kessler and been wrong so I've voted him anyway!
Roy looked excellant at 168 based on the Toney win alone because the rest of the cops and robbers he fought were C-Level. I still think if Roy and Toney had fought at 175 the fight could have been a lot different. Toney had a drip atatched to him when he slept the night before the fight because he was dangerously weight drained. Toney was not even on the level below his best the night he fought Roy, he was weak as a kitten.
