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Being objective it would appear that Floyd would be the easy choice for this fight, But naturally it's difficult to be objective when taking into account the two personalities involved. This mentality has forced me to quickly compile reasons that Hatton has a shot:
1) Oscar gave Floyd a tough fight: Oscar was old! Ricky although not as heavy a puncher can set a pace Oscar could not maintain for an entire round. Ricky is just a lot fitter and naturally a more aggresive fighter than Oscar. Perhaps he can use this style to force floyd straight back.
2)Castillo: I'm not placing emphasis on the fact Ricky beat Castillo quicker, not only were the fights years apart, styles make fights and Castillos style suited rick' better. What i am concerntrating on is that (unofficially) Castillo beat Floyd the first time, through bodyshots, and Floyd religiously trains his abdomen daily, perhaps indicating that he has a distaste for hooks of the lower variety. Even Hatton's greatest detractors cannot deny Hatton's bodywork is exceptional.
3)Size: Floyd is accustomed to fighting boxers of a gtreater height than himself. In the past this has been seen as Floyd being brave stepping up to the bigger man, but in reality a taller guy is easier for floyd as they are easier to slip as Floyd does so well. However, when Floyd uses this slip to the right against Hatton he will still be in Hattons range as Rick' is lower than say Oscar, Castillo, Corralles and Judah. Being short may be an advantage.
Look i could keep goin on all day, but we won't no anything for sure til' fight night so i wont make you guys endure my ramblings any longer............
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cc DaxxKahn totally agree but it can only take one big shot from Ricky to end this.
But I also agree that Hatton does have more balls than Calzaghe for fighting the very best and going up to their division and even if he does get beat;
AT LEAST HE GOT BEAT BY THE BEST and there's nothing wrong with that!!
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
I like Ricky and have been a big fan of his since I seen him fight Emmon Magee...IMO he is a nice guy who puts a good image on boxing.....I am also one of Floyds biggest detractors but when having to be honest here....
Hatton made a mistake...Calling out Floyd is one thing buy he has made some insulting remarks about him...EG The comments about his fight with Castillo being more exciting then Mayweathers whole career.....
Say what you want but IMO it is not wise to make a guy who is ranked #1 P4P in the world who has the skill of Floyd angry.....If Floyd feels he is fighting for pride not legacy it will elevate his game to a new level....
Tooo much speed....the combos.....he willl flurry Hatton and get out before Ricky knows what hit him.....
I don't think Floyd will knockout Hatton IMO he will do his best to embaress him by making him look out classed and overmatched.......
Hatton will have his moments but Floyd is going to make an example of Hatton....Sadly but true
Great analysis..I do however think it was a double-edged sword for Hatton calling out Mayweather. In one way he HAD to do it to get Floyds attention. Floyd himself says 'a closed mouth don't get fed' but in doing so Hatton has now angered Floyd to the point where it seems likely he will do to Hatton what you (and I) believe he did to Gatti etc (not comparing Ricky to Gatti)
So my point basically is he had to either get the angry, motivated, best version of Floyd by making derogatory remarks about him or not get Floyd at all. The choice was his and we all know what he chose :)
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If Hatton wins he will be the best fighter out there considering whats stacked against him, the weight is not an issue the reason hatton struggled aginst collazo is because he was a big guy, floyd wont pose that problem . Hatton is going to have to cope with mayweather's speed (reflexes and hand speed), movement, water tight defense and most importantly the reach advantage. Floyd may not be the hardest hitter out there but he is phenomenally accurate and couple that with the reach advantage he can do a lot of damage to hattons face which is not shy when it come to getting cut.
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cc DaxxKahn totally agree but it can only take one big shot from Ricky to end this.
But I also agree that Hatton does have more balls than Calzaghe for fighting the very best and going up to their division and even if he does get beat;
AT LEAST HE GOT BEAT BY THE BEST and there's nothing wrong with that!!
CC back at ya but IMO Hatton is not a big enough puncher to end things with one shot...Easpecially against Floyd who can take it on the chin fairly well......
Great analysis..I do however think it was a double-edged sword for Hatton calling out Mayweather. In one way he HAD to do it to get Floyds attention. Floyd himself says 'a closed mouth don't get fed' but in doing so Hatton has now angered Floyd to the point where it seems likely he will do to Hatton what you (and I) believe he did to Gatti etc (not comparing Ricky to Gatti)
So my point basically is he had to either get the angry, motivated, best version of Floyd by making derogatory remarks about him or not get Floyd at all. The choice was his and we all know what he chose :)
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True but this is also how Hatton got his fight with Tszyu he called him out on several occasions....Though the version of Kostya was not that of the current Mayweather...No matter what it will be a good fight worth the price of the ticket
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There is also a link to the fight which is a bit more in depth than the OP's link
http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/n...tton_Snap.html
The question I ask is :
What weight wil the fight be at ?
I think it's great IF they do get it on and there is no messing about like there normally is when getting the big fights on.
Both are in their prime.
Both are unbeaten.
Both are coming off the biggest wins in there career (I think Hatton's Castillo win had more impact than his Tysu win)
One is white, the other black.
One is brit other is a yank.
It is got everything. To me it's the biggest fight since. Hagler Vs Leonard.
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I'm glad to hear that this fight is in the works.
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Wouldn't be great to see the winner of Cotto - Mosley (if occurs) facing the winner of Hatton - Mayweather?
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
I like Ricky and have been a big fan of his since I seen him fight Emmon Magee...IMO he is a nice guy who puts a good image on boxing.....I am also one of Floyds biggest detractors but when having to be honest here....
Hatton made a mistake...Calling out Floyd is one thing buy he has made some insulting remarks about him...EG The comments about his fight with Castillo being more exciting then Mayweathers whole career.....
Say what you want but IMO it is not wise to make a guy who is ranked #1 P4P in the world who has the skill of Floyd angry.....If Floyd feels he is fighting for pride not legacy it will elevate his game to a new level....
Tooo much speed....the combos.....he willl flurry Hatton and get out before Ricky knows what hit him.....
I don't think Floyd will knockout Hatton IMO he will do his best to embaress him by making him look out classed and overmatched.......
Hatton will have his moments but Floyd is going to make an example of Hatton....Sadly but true
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I like Ricky alot, and believe he is one of the good guys of the sport, a great ambassador and down to earth being as approachable as you could ever expect a star to be..
But Floyd is in a whole other league, I get frustrated with the Majority of 20 post jonnies here that support Hatton and trash Floyd. Even the most Zealous Mayweather fan will credit Ricky at the end of the day for his determination and attitude.
People who will call Floyd all Hype, you fukwits know who you are ::** is just plain dumb PERIOD!!!!!!! if he is all hype than he must have all the RESPECTED writers, sanctioning bodies and Ring Magazine Buffaloed then since they have him rated #1 PFP fighter in Boxing.... Believe me it has NOTHING to do with popularity either, Floyd is the real deal and all the detractors will turn coat on Ricky when he loses and tumbles off of being the failed latest and greatest Mayweather Slayer who got beat ;)
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Maybe it's Floyd thats made the mistake insulting Hatton.
For a nice guy that doesn't have any real bad blood with his opponents Hatton sure does turn nasty when the bell sounds. ;)
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
1) Oscar gave Floyd a tough fight: Oscar was old! Ricky although not as heavy a puncher can set a pace Oscar could not maintain for an entire round. Ricky is just a lot fitter and naturally a more aggresive fighter than Oscar. Perhaps he can use this style to force floyd straight back.
Rick's latest outings would suggest otherwise.... He faded against Collazo, Urango and only fought 4 rounds against Castillo so we dont know if his conditioning is up to snuff
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2)Castillo: I'm not placing emphasis on the fact Ricky beat Castillo quicker, not only were the fights years apart, styles make fights and Castillos style suited rick' better. What i am concerntrating on is that (unofficially) Castillo beat Floyd the first time, through bodyshots, and Floyd religiously trains his abdomen daily, perhaps indicating that he has a distaste for hooks of the lower variety. Even Hatton's greatest detractors cannot deny Hatton's bodywork is exceptional.
If you say Oscar was old, then there is no doubt that Castillo is Father time by your calculations and was no were close to the caliber he was 5 yrs ago against Floyd... I agree Ricky is a superb body snatcher, but yet so is Floyd. he buckled Oscar with a body shot and yes he trains his abdomen extra hard... I mean big deal I see no relevance there. Also you gotta take into account Urango took the piss out of Ricky with a few bodyshots and left him hurtin bad.
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3)Size: Floyd is accustomed to fighting boxers of a gtreater height than himself. In the past this has been seen as Floyd being brave stepping up to the bigger man, but in reality a taller guy is easier for floyd as they are easier to slip as Floyd does so well. However, when Floyd uses this slip to the right against Hatton he will still be in Hattons range as Rick' is lower than say Oscar, Castillo, Corralles and Judah. Being short may be an advantage.
This is the funniest comment you made and should have done research into.. Floyd is 5'8
Baldomir is 5'7
Judah is 5'7 1/2
Mitchell is 5'7
Gatti is 5'7 1/2
Bruseles is 5'7 1/2
Corley is 5'7
Castillo is 5'8
And Jesus Chavez who could match Ricky for pressure and work rate is only 5'5 and got uppercutted and ripped apart by a not Prime Mayweather...
So I dont really see the coralation in regard to Floyd fighting taller fighters. He has been the taller guy or same height as his opposition with the exception of Delahoya ???
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I actually think Floyd was a far far better offensive fighter at the lighter weights. His offence at the higher weights has been limited.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I actually think Floyd was a far far better offensive fighter at the lighter weights. His offence at the higher weights has been limited.
Very true. At the higher weights he seems to pot shot and then move. He throws punches in bunches much less frequently. His output is effective but surprisingly minimal.
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I actually think Floyd was a far far better offensive fighter at the lighter weights. His offence at the higher weights has been limited.
Well his punches definitely had more effect when he was fighting smaller opponents. At 130 pounds, he could outbox guys, but he also had the power to hurt them.
I don't think Floyd believes he can really hurt a true 147 or 154 pounder, so his offense is more about scoring points and winning rounds.
Hatton is not a true welterweight, so it'll be interesting to see whether Floyd is more aggressive.