Re: A Must see for Floyd Fans
ok first off how in the world can you post a video of hatton whipping the crap out of bums and then call Mayweather for the guys hes been fighting. Secondly Floyd has a fair amount of power Zab Judah was on his way out till he threw the low blow and rabbit punch and he rocked De La Hoya a few times. Third you say Floyd beating up on old men De La Hoya has only lost to A class fighters and he was far from shot hell i bet he could take Hatton out now if they fought. Also the two fighters Hatton has beat that are worth mentioning Castillo and Tszyu were mid 30's. Fourth whats has mayweather done after lightweight? hummm didnt he become ring magazine P4P no 1 and win tiltles in 4 more divisions? On paper Mayweather skools Hatton but fights aren't fought on paper
Now i see this fight being very close, Hatton has a good chance if he can catch and keep Floyd against the ropes. This is no easy feat, Floyd is one elusive Motherf***er with arguably the best defense in the game. Also i wouldn't count on Hatton walking through Floyds shots if he lands clean punches they will hurt Hatton no doubt about it all you Hatton fanboys need to realise that. One thing i do know this is not going to be a easy night for Hatton far from it, most of the guys hatton has fought have stood right in front of him and hes got tired before. Mayweather will be moving around the majority of the time will Hatton be able to give chase and keep up a relentless punch output for 12 rounds? History says no, time will tell.
All i know is come fight night i will be cheering on my boy Floyd and hoping it will be business as usual but this is boxing and i know anything is possible.
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Nice video, but not very expansive in terms of quality of opposition in it. Tszyu, Maussa, Collazo and Urango were all genuine title holders were they not? I may be wrong though.
One thing is for sure, it's going to be a nervous fight to watch for me as a Hatton fan, but I can't wait!
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Good vid actually, after all the hype people brought up about the de la hoya fight and how bad he was going to whoop floyd, a video about hatton i think would make them just giggle a little bit. Over and over they showed de la hoya fighting vargas, chavez, etc....hattons video shows him winning against .......
Keep laughing cos you won't be the morning after they fight.
I'm not a fan of either but how in the World can Floyd win? He ain't no Sugar Ray Leonard in the speed stakes and he has no power.
He's good at beating oldmen like Oscar and little guys but how is he gonna get Hatton away?
Hatton will be busy and in his face.
Hatton wins this easy like Lloyd Honeyghan against Donald Curry. Floyd is gonna break like Donald did.
I would never say he wins 'easy' fella but he is more than capable of sticking to Floyd like S*** to a blanket and making him pretty uncomfortable.
Floyd is gonna be taken to places he's never been. Ricky will keep fighting when hurt, Floyd won't.
Million Dollar Foney is gonna get fucked-up.
You taking on a hungry fighter this time Floyd. No flash just fight.
I keep saying this and i will say it again Mayweather has fought similar fights to Hatton aka Chavez aka Castillo Hatton has fought one fast fighter in his whole career and it didn't fair well with Hatton staggering and and reeling and getting a controversial decision and before you bring up Castillo gave Mayweather trouble Mayweather rematched him and beat him convincing with no trouble what Hatton should of done with Collazo and has improved since the first Castillo fight.
Mayweather lost the 1st Castillo fight-everyone knows he was lucky with the decision.
And i could say the same with Hatton vs Collazo atleast Mayweather rematched Castillo and beat him easily Hatton did not and went back on his word and like i said that was years ago and Mayweather has improved alot since that.
You could also say that Floyd’s last opponent Oscar had lost 2 of his previous 4!
Baldomir was a journeyman champ and Zab Judah had been destroyed by Kostya Tsyzu- who incidentally was P4P No.1 when Hatton beat him.
It's not hard to figure that Floyd has had an easy ride on the back of American fans that keep paying to watch him beat - dead certainties.
So now your trying to discredit Mayweathers opposition you have changed the subject and Kostya Tszyu was never p4p no 1 he may of been number 1 in his division but no way was he p4p number 1 and who else could Mayweather have fought for you to think any better of him ??
All i was trying to say is that Mayweather has beaten fighters similar to Hatton problem is Hatton has only ever fought 1 fast fighter in his whole career and it was controversial decision where he was rocked badly.
Of course Tszyu was P4P- that was World recognised.
Mayweather ain't done S*** after Lightweight- what has he done? Apart from avoid Live fighters.
after lightweight Mayweather has beaten 4 current legit world champions. More than Hatton has fought in his entire career.
To be fair to Hatton it's not like he's been looking for bad opponents, he has been badly promoted in terms of quality of opposition.When offered Tszyu, Mayweather and Castillo, Hatton has signed instantly, and despite what other people think, I think Collazo was a high quality opponent, he will come again, he's now competiting at 154 which shows he was a huge welter, and even against Mosley he was doing well for 2 rounds, the 2nd was a dominant 10-9, but Collazo broke his right hand, which is his lead hand as well. If memory serves I think he was 161lbs on the night against Mosley.
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Good vid actually, after all the hype people brought up about the de la hoya fight and how bad he was going to whoop floyd, a video about hatton i think would make them just giggle a little bit. Over and over they showed de la hoya fighting vargas, chavez, etc....hattons video shows him winning against .......
Keep laughing cos you won't be the morning after they fight.
I'm not a fan of either but how in the World can Floyd win? He ain't no Sugar Ray Leonard in the speed stakes and he has no power.
He's good at beating oldmen like Oscar and little guys but how is he gonna get Hatton away?
Hatton will be busy and in his face.
Hatton wins this easy like Lloyd Honeyghan against Donald Curry. Floyd is gonna break like Donald did.
I would never say he wins 'easy' fella but he is more than capable of sticking to Floyd like S*** to a blanket and making him pretty uncomfortable.
Floyd is gonna be taken to places he's never been. Ricky will keep fighting when hurt, Floyd won't.
Million Dollar Foney is gonna get fucked-up.
You taking on a hungry fighter this time Floyd. No flash just fight.
I keep saying this and i will say it again Mayweather has fought similar fights to Hatton aka Chavez aka Castillo Hatton has fought one fast fighter in his whole career and it didn't fair well with Hatton staggering and and reeling and getting a controversial decision and before you bring up Castillo gave Mayweather trouble Mayweather rematched him and beat him convincing with no trouble what Hatton should of done with Collazo and has improved since the first Castillo fight.
Mayweather lost the 1st Castillo fight-everyone knows he was lucky with the decision.
And i could say the same with Hatton vs Collazo atleast Mayweather rematched Castillo and beat him easily Hatton did not and went back on his word and like i said that was years ago and Mayweather has improved alot since that.
You could also say that Floyd’s last opponent Oscar had lost 2 of his previous 4!
Baldomir was a journeyman champ and Zab Judah had been destroyed by Kostya Tsyzu- who incidentally was P4P No.1 when Hatton beat him.
It's not hard to figure that Floyd has had an easy ride on the back of American fans that keep paying to watch him beat - dead certainties.
So now your trying to discredit Mayweathers opposition you have changed the subject and Kostya Tszyu was never p4p no 1 he may of been number 1 in his division but no way was he p4p number 1 and who else could Mayweather have fought for you to think any better of him ??
All i was trying to say is that Mayweather has beaten fighters similar to Hatton problem is Hatton has only ever fought 1 fast fighter in his whole career and it was controversial decision where he was rocked badly.
Of course Tszyu was P4P- that was World recognised.
Mayweather ain't done S*** after Lightweight- what has he done? Apart from avoid Live fighters.
Name these fighters he avoided.
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Hatton will should KO Mayweather.If he won't be able to do it, then his unblemished record will go down.Decision will always go to Mayweather.
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Hatton should KO Mayweather.If he won't be able to do it, then his unblemished record will go down.Decision will always go to Mayweather.
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I do believe that there is a huge talent gap in this fight, but styles make fights and Hatton's style is probably going to be the only style to break Floyd.
Pressure. Effective aggressiveness closes that gap a lot, De La Hoya just had to come forward with jab and pressure to win rounds in his go with Mayweather. It wasn't that he was landing much, he was just negating the offense of Mayweather.
If Hatton can provide consistent pressure, I don't think he is going to KO Mayweather, but he can make it close. Hatton's stamina is key. I fully expect him to win a good chuck of the first 5 rounds, it's what he does after that that is key.
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I do believe that there is a huge talent gap in this fight, but styles make fights and Hatton's style is probably going to be the only style to break Floyd.
Pressure. Effective aggressiveness closes that gap a lot, De La Hoya just had to come forward with jab and pressure to win rounds in his go with Mayweather. It wasn't that he was landing much, he was just negating the offense of Mayweather.
If Hatton can provide consistent pressure, I don't think he is going to KO Mayweather, but he can make it close. Hatton's stamina is key. I fully expect him to win a good chuck of the first 5 rounds, it's what he does after that that is key.
I define talent a lot differently. If your talking about pressure fighting, muscular strength, endurance and power, particularly the left hook to the body, Hatton is more "Talented", or naturally gifted at least.
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I do believe that there is a huge talent gap in this fight, but styles make fights and Hatton's style is probably going to be the only style to break Floyd.
Pressure. Effective aggressiveness closes that gap a lot, De La Hoya just had to come forward with jab and pressure to win rounds in his go with Mayweather. It wasn't that he was landing much, he was just negating the offense of Mayweather.
If Hatton can provide consistent pressure, I don't think he is going to KO Mayweather, but he can make it close. Hatton's stamina is key. I fully expect him to win a good chuck of the first 5 rounds, it's what he does after that that is key.
I define talent a lot differently. If your talking about pressure fighting, muscular strength, endurance and power, particularly the left hook to the body, Hatton is more "Talented", or naturally gifted at least.
That's the reason why I am predicting Hatton to KO Mayweather.
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I agree on the talent issue. Mayweather is more technically gifted than Hatton, however Hatton has more natural aggression and power. Both have important talents, however which is more important is up for debate, but to say one talent is better than the other is a bit short sighted.
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I don't know whats going to give me more pleasure, seeing Floyd embarrass Hatton or seeing all the excuses afterwards from Hatton's heartbroken fans.
Hatton's fans will point out that Hatton stopped guys who took Mayweather the distance. I SAY that is totally irrelevant considering the fact that Floyd is not really a knockout artist. Remember boxing is about winning, not necessarily about knocking a guy out.
I find it funny that the Hatton fans will point out this, but conveniently fail to mention how much trouble in his first and last trip to welterweight against Collazo, and how Collazo's movement gave Ricky grief. Collazo is no PBF.
I also find it hilarious that people slag PBF as a guy who beat up an "OLD MAN" in 34 year old DLH, but fail to slag Ricky Hatton for beating up a 36 year old Kosta Tsyzu, who had been plagued with serious shoulder and achilles tendon injuries in the years prior.
I'm trying to be argumentative. Arguing about who is going to win a fight that will happen in a few months is a fool's game IMO. Just wanted to point a few "convenient inconsistencies" that I've noticed in a lot of the Hatton nuthugger's arguments.
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cc for the video Welsh devil
i cant wait for this fight
preme what u mean if ricky still boxing
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dnt tell me u honestly think that mayweather is gona retire Hatton ::**
The word fomr hattons team for a long time is that ricky would be looking to end his career in a few fights, and it's been a few fights, they have been looking to go out on top by beating mayweather...
The reason i say If is simple, i see mayweather schooling and stopping hatton in such a manner it would be a massive effort for him to come back knowing full well he will never ever compare to floyd, maybe this is pemature... i just see no way period that ricky can beat floyd... mayweather is the damn good and ricky lacks basic boxing skills... and doesn't have the size to force him self on mayweather...
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You honestly believe he has no shot?
I know Mayweather is the best in the world, but Hatton is a true pressure fighter. Something Mayweather hasn't faced off with since Castillo. De La Hoya isn't a guy who's at his best moving forward and making it rough, but he still took rounds playing that role against Mayweather.
I know Hatton isn't going to be able to pick off shots coming forward like De La Hoya did so well, and I know he doesn't have the jab of De La Hoya but he won't relent and he'll make Mayweather pay if Mayweather leans against the ropes with his elbows up.
Hatton has been made look bad before at 147, but honestly, Hatton didn't take Collazo seriously. He'll take Mayweather seriously, and he won't be getting flatfooted like he did versus Collazo.
I take Mayweather to win in a very good fight. I think Hatton has a better shot then De La Hoya though.
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You honestly believe he has no shot?
I know Mayweather is the best in the world, but Hatton is a true pressure fighter. Something Mayweather hasn't faced off with since Castillo. De La Hoya isn't a guy who's at his best moving forward and making it rough, but he still took rounds playing that role against Mayweather.
I know Hatton isn't going to be able to pick off shots coming forward like De La Hoya did so well, and I know he doesn't have the jab of De La Hoya but he won't relent and he'll make Mayweather pay if Mayweather leans against the ropes with his elbows up.
Hatton has been made look bad before at 147, but honestly, Hatton didn't take Collazo seriously. He'll take Mayweather seriously, and he won't be getting flatfooted like he did versus Collazo.
I take Mayweather to win in a very good fight. I think Hatton has a better shot then De La Hoya though.
i give him no shot. mayweather is to good...
and Graham is a shit trainer... it was claer after the collazo fight hatton seriously lacks certain thing, one of them ebing able to move his head to slip a jab to get into a fighter... it's to late now, to NOW try and teach hatton to be able to slip mayweathers punches to get into him wont work nto enough time... he is goign to get hit to hell and will have no idea what to do when he cant walk in and hold onto mayweather to work the body... floyd will stop him, ricky will be finished... i'll wager closer tot he fight that hatton wont win so much as one round...
i used to be a very big hatton fan, i still like him, i do... don't change the fact floyd is the best in the world and as long as he takes this serious enough and trains it he will do to a fella p4p fighter that no one else has ever done before... there will be no past their prime excuses nothing, both p4p the weight is irelevent, both will weigh in roughly on the night at their best weights, the extra 7 pounds wont favour floyd, the weight etc for floyds style will be meaningless...
This is boxing i know, anything can happen.. it doesnt change the fact that i give hatton no chance at all, the lucky punch that can change fights wont happen, floyds to pro to let hatton get such a punch off...