Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Three things i see:
1. Hatton is alot stronger and has more power than Chevez
2. Hatton has alot quicker handspeed/footwork
3. Chevez didnt keep the same pace as the fight went on, something i feel Hatton will do.
I think Floyd wins by 7 rnds to 5. But it will be a close hard fight.
Chavez didnt keep the same pace as the fight went on, something i feel Hatton will do.
Yes because he was getting hit by hard punches Hatton got wobbled by lighting hitting Collazo at Welterweight and Mayweather hits alot hard than Collazo and is much better boxer Hatton at Welterweight didn't look like he could bully the top boys thats how it looked in Collazo fight.
Mayweather hits alot harder? I beg to differ wheres your proof of this? Old man Shambra Mitchell? But Collzao is a big man nearly 5 ft 10 who walks about around 175 lbs. Mayweather isnt hes naturally a smaller man. Mayweather wont take the sting out of Hatton with his power??? So Tsyzu couldnt stop him in his tracks with his power but Mayweather will?? Sorry but if you think Mayweather will want to fight Hatton in the pocket i think your totally wrong, Collazo did after first couple of rounds beacuse he was the stronger man, Mayweather will not be stronger than Hatton i put my house on that.
Well he managed to rock Oscar at 154 i tell you what Mayweather has underrated power he may not hit with devasting power but he has the kind of power to make you respect him.
Collazo doesn't have the snap to his punches like Mayweather Collazo has no real power yet he managed to rock Hatton plenty of times not just the 12th.
So Tsyzu couldnt stop him in his tracks with his power but Mayweather will??
I think Mayweather will make Hatton respect his power the fight with Tszyu was at LightWelterweight where he was able to bully Tszyu at Welterweight Hatton doesn't carry same power and he can't bully fighters at higher weights thats impression i got from Collazo fight Hatton's defence was terrible in Collazo fight his chin was right there to be hit all the time just rushing forward with no defence what so ever if Hatton was in Mayweather that night Mayweather would of stopped him and thats another problem Hatton's defence seems a bit leaky and with someone with the timing and speed of Mayweather he will make Hatton pay dearly.
You say Tzysu was 140, but the thing is Ice on fight night v Hatton Tzysu was/will be bigger than Mayweather will be for the Hatton fight. Mayweather will be fighting like a 140lb fighter his weight will be around 147-150 lbs the average weight for a fighter weiging in at 140, Collazo was around 160-165 on fight night, you see thats the difference, Hatton in reality is fighting a 140lb fighter, not a 147lber. Hatton wont have probelems in terms of strenght and power because he is not fighting a bigger/stronger man. ;)
It doesn't matter how hard Mayweather will hit Hatton, it only matters how often. & combine Mayweather's lightning fast punches with Hatton's willingness to get punched to throw a punch...It doesn't look too good for Hatton.
In short thats telling it like it is... it was the amount of punches collazo hit hatton with that had him out on his feet at the end, and it will be the same now, but mayweather hits harder...
as of late mayweather has been using his punches to score with.. hatton will get busted open and stopped in this.
Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Three things i see:
1. Hatton is alot stronger and has more power than Chevez
2. Hatton has alot quicker handspeed/footwork
3. Chevez didnt keep the same pace as the fight went on, something i feel Hatton will do.
I think Floyd wins by 7 rnds to 5. But it will be a close hard fight.
Chavez didnt keep the same pace as the fight went on, something i feel Hatton will do.
Yes because he was getting hit by hard punches Hatton got wobbled by lighting hitting Collazo at Welterweight and Mayweather hits alot hard than Collazo and is much better boxer Hatton at Welterweight didn't look like he could bully the top boys thats how it looked in Collazo fight.
Mayweather hits alot harder? I beg to differ wheres your proof of this? Old man Shambra Mitchell? But Collzao is a big man nearly 5 ft 10 who walks about around 175 lbs. Mayweather isnt hes naturally a smaller man. Mayweather wont take the sting out of Hatton with his power??? So Tsyzu couldnt stop him in his tracks with his power but Mayweather will?? Sorry but if you think Mayweather will want to fight Hatton in the pocket i think your totally wrong, Collazo did after first couple of rounds beacuse he was the stronger man, Mayweather will not be stronger than Hatton i put my house on that.
Well he managed to rock Oscar at 154 i tell you what Mayweather has underrated power he may not hit with devasting power but he has the kind of power to make you respect him.
Collazo doesn't have the snap to his punches like Mayweather Collazo has no real power yet he managed to rock Hatton plenty of times not just the 12th.
So Tsyzu couldnt stop him in his tracks with his power but Mayweather will??
I think Mayweather will make Hatton respect his power the fight with Tszyu was at LightWelterweight where he was able to bully Tszyu at Welterweight Hatton doesn't carry same power and he can't bully fighters at higher weights thats impression i got from Collazo fight Hatton's defence was terrible in Collazo fight his chin was right there to be hit all the time just rushing forward with no defence what so ever if Hatton was in Mayweather that night Mayweather would of stopped him and thats another problem Hatton's defence seems a bit leaky and with someone with the timing and speed of Mayweather he will make Hatton pay dearly.
You say Tzysu was 140, but the thing is Ice on fight night v Hatton Tzysu was/will be bigger than Mayweather will be for the Hatton fight. Mayweather will be fighting like a 140lb fighter his weight will be around 147-150 lbs the average weight for a fighter weiging in at 140, Collazo was around 160-165 on fight night, you see thats the difference, Hatton in reality is fighting a 140lb fighter, not a 147lber. Hatton wont have probelems in terms of strenght and power because he is not fighting a bigger/stronger man. ;)
:coolclick: for the common sense.
Mayweather's power will not be the difference in this fight. Its Mayweathers other assets that will need to be utilised.
It must also be remembered that a lot of us had no real idea about Collazo before the fight. We all know Mayweather and what he offers. Hatton will be prepared for this and there will be no room for excuses.
The better fighter will win.
It must also be remembered that a lot of us had no real idea about Collazo before the fight.
We knew he was light hitter i don't think you or Skel are understanding i didn't say his power will be the difference im saying he has enough power so Hatton will respect his power you think he will be able to go rushing forward with no defence like he did with Collazo and keep taking Mayweather's best shots for 12 rounds ?? all i know is that Mayweather hits harder and is much more sharper puncher than Collazo.
I expect Hatton to be far sharper and fleeter on his feet than against Collazo. Hatton was plodding a little against Collazo and seemed slower than usual.
I expect Hatton to fight a completely different strategic fight than he did against Collazo. Hatton against Collazo was a messy performance and I have no doubt that it was an abberation.
I dont think Mayweather at the higher weights really carries all that much KO power. To say he hits harder than Collazo is inconclusive. I dont think he does at welterweight to be honest. He is faster though and can therefore surprise you. Its Floyds skills and elusiveness that are doing it now.
If Mayweather is to stop Hatton then it will be through gradual accumulation. I dont see it though. Hatton is surprisingly quick himself and it wont be as difficult as some people think for Ricky to get within range and unload.
Could go either way, but Ive gotta go with Ricky here. It needs to be a performance of heart and determination.
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From reading all threads the key to the fight is the distance Hatton is from Mayweather. He has to be close, to continue to hurt and pressure Floyd, even punching him in the nuts just to get Floyd off his game. If he stays too far he will get hit and hurt like Gatti. Hatton can fight for every second of every minute of every round just to occupy Mayweather but Oscar tried the same (admittedly not with the same intensity over the last few rounds which cost him the fight) and lost mainly because of the accuracy and punches landed by Floyd. So Floyd wins another close fight again I am afraid to say.
We will all have to wait until Floyd fights a real welterweight and I hope it is Cotto.
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Its not the power that is going to win the fight for Mayweather (he must have a fair bit tho to rock a 154lb fighter) it his accuracy, speed, water tight defense and most importantly his versitility.
Mayweather can fight Hatton just as well on the inside as on the outside as his reflexes help him block and slip punches and then quickly counter with the right hand lead. If you watch the first Castillo fight round 10 i think it was where Floyd lost a couple of rounds prior and he decided to stand his ground and was fairly effective.
I wouldnt be at all suprised if Floyd stood in the centre of the ring and traded with Hatton. Now i cant see Floyd KO'ing Hatton as he doesnt have that kind of power but i can see him knocking Hatton donw a few times with quick counters catching Hatton off balance.
As for all this 'Hatton has too much heart, pride ect' that dont count for shyte its not gonna stop Floyd from slipping and countering punches. Arturo Gatti had heart and pride but his ass has been whooped on more than one occasion i would be suprised if any fighter out there didnt have heart and pride (im seriously doubting Jermain Taylor has it tho conidering his recent performances)
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Its not the power that is going to win the fight for Mayweather (he must have a fair bit tho to rock a 154lb fighter) it his accuracy, speed, water tight defense and most importantly his versitility.
Mayweather can fight Hatton just as well on the inside as on the outside as his reflexes help him block and slip punches and then quickly counter with the right hand lead. If you watch the first Castillo fight round 10 i think it was where Floyd lost a couple of rounds prior and he decided to stand his ground and was fairly effective.
I wouldnt be at all suprised if Floyd stood in the centre of the ring and traded with Hatton. Now i cant see Floyd KO'ing Hatton as he doesnt have that kind of power but i can see him knocking Hatton donw a few times with quick counters catching Hatton off balance.
As for all this 'Hatton has too much heart, pride ect' that dont count for shyte its not gonna stop Floyd from slipping and countering punches. Arturo Gatti had heart and pride but his a** has been whooped on more than one occasion i would be suprised if any fighter out there didnt have heart and pride (im seriously doubting Jermain Taylor has it tho conidering his recent performances)
What is this Gatti comparison?? Lets get this straight Hatton would brutally knock Gatti out within 6 rounds. Gatti tried to box Floyd?? Go watch the fight he stands in front of him in range for the duration fo the fight. Creating no angles letting Floyd use him as a punchbag.
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Gatti was a deer in headlights. He saw in seconds how much faster Floyd was then him and how hard he was going to be to hit. It was funny watching Gatti trying to be the faster fighter. He'd never tried to be that quick in his life and all of a sudden there he was. Hatton would head butt Gatti's broken hands and then bash his face in.
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I wasn't comparing Gatti to Hatton i was simply explaining that heart alone isn't going to win you a fight and Gatti is an example of a boxer with plenty of heart but few wins against the top guys.
The only way Hatton has a chance is if he uses his jab against Mayweather to back him up and then apply pressure and use his punch output efficently rather than trying to throw the kitchen sink at Floyd like Chavez. If Hatton trys all that hugging shyte he will get either a sharp right hand lead in his face or an uppercut. He needs to be paitient and wait for oppertunitys to open up.
The mistake that a lot of these guys make when they have Floyd on the ropes is they throw far too many shots and only his gloves and elbows and then when they rest for a second Floyd goes to work efficently landing single clean punches. If Hatton can keep Floyd on the ropes and pick his spots then the fight will get mighty interesting but i dont think Hatton is a paitent enough fighter he likes to play to the crowd too much and he doesn't exactly ue his jab all that often.
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cc btw ice..
tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Well Chavez had pride most boxers have pride i don't see what thats got to do with anything.
These guys go well back and it will be a very hottly anticipated contest. I just cant see Ricky giving floyd anything because he knows how big it is. I just think ricky will better chavez and learn of what he did wrong.
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didn't know mystic meg posted here :o
If you watch the fight Preme its actually good indicator on how Hatton vs Mayweather will go Chavez trys to swarm Mayweather and its great fight Chavez never dented Mayweather i remember he threw like 90+ punches only landed 6 of them.
Ice, you see that uppercut he throws when ever Chavez tries to sit on his chest? He aint been using that for a while but i garuntee it'll be back against the smaller Hatton.
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cc btw ice..
tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Yer!! Thats exactly how it will pan out, Mayweather will be just like Lacy :dummespost: Never mind that Calzaghe is realistically a better p4p fighter than Hatton no question, and Mayweather is even considerably moreso than Calzaghe. Yep, Mayweather will be just like Lacy. Plodding forward with no defence hoping to land that one big KO punch, while Hatton moves all over the ring, uses all angles, flurries, turns him, and never clinches once. Yeah that's just how it will go, you really know your boxing.
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didn't know mystic meg posted here :o
If you watch the fight Preme its actually good indicator on how Hatton vs Mayweather will go Chavez trys to swarm Mayweather and its great fight Chavez never dented Mayweather i remember he threw like 90+ punches only landed 6 of them.
I remember that fight cuz sky were trying to promote Floyd at the time . Chavez just tried throwing non stop round after round but his inaccuracy and fatigue cost him . Nobody can go all out for every minute every round . Floyd , blocked and countered and allowed Chavez to punch himself out . Perfect tactics , . It may be the blueprint on how to beat Ricky but I think its doing a diservice to compare Chavez to Hatton . Ricky has beaten top p4p fighters . Chavez has never won a big fight in his life and is much smaller .
Floyd will need to show alot more than that in December cuz Ricky will be posing alot of probelms . More than Oscar did IMO .
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Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
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I wasn't comparing Gatti to Hatton i was simply explaining that heart alone isn't going to win you a fight and Gatti is an example of a boxer with plenty of heart but few wins against the top guys.
The only way Hatton has a chance is if he uses his jab against Mayweather to back him up and then apply pressure and use his punch output efficently rather than trying to throw the kitchen sink at Floyd like Chavez. If Hatton trys all that hugging shyte he will get either a sharp right hand lead in his face or an uppercut. He needs to be paitient and wait for oppertunitys to open up.
The mistake that a lot of these guys make when they have Floyd on the ropes is they throw far too many shots and only his gloves and elbows and then when they rest for a second Floyd goes to work efficently landing single clean punches. If Hatton can keep Floyd on the ropes and pick his spots then the fight will get mighty interesting but i dont think Hatton is a paitent enough fighter he likes to play to the crowd too much and he doesn't exactly ue his jab all that often.
For the record, I don't think Hatton is going to win.
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Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
I wouldn't go as far to say Chavez is poor man's version of Hatton there isn't that much difference yes Hatton is better fighter but i certainly wouldn't call him poor man's version of Hatton.
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cc btw ice..
tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Well Chavez had pride most boxers have pride i don't see what thats got to do with anything.
These guys go well back and it will be a very hottly anticipated contest. I just cant see Ricky giving floyd anything because he knows how big it is. I just think ricky will better chavez and learn of what he did wrong.
Chavez didn't do that much wrong he used very good tactic vs Floyd but it was Floyd's defence and countering that really payed off and in the end he started to hammer Chavez i think this will happen in Hatton fight with Hatton starting off really fast with Mayweather making him miss then starting to hammer him with counters as Hatton is rushing in and get the win late on in the 10th.
