Could Any Featherweight In History Beat Salvador Sanchez ??

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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He beat more ATG than most fighters have in our era.

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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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He beat more ATG than most fighters have in our era.

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I'm aware of that, but i never said anyone from our era was better than him.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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He beat more ATG than most fighters have in our era.

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I'm aware of that, but i never said anyone from our era was better than him.

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yes you said Hitmandonny that Pacquaio is better than him. hehehehe. mwahahaaha.peace bro. :kar:

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Originally Posted by Missy

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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You were doing well till you mentioned pat cowdell ;D cut down the coffee gamo, of course I've seen his fights.

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I'll cut down the coffee if you cut down the shit you've been smoking. Deal? Or are you bored already? ;D

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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Sanchez was a class act no doubt Gamo, but unfortubately his legacy is limited by what he got the chance to achieve. We can only judge him on what we saw, and although that was great it wasn't the greatest of Featherweight History. (its not his fault he's comparable to Pep either)

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He beat more ATG than most fighters have in our era.

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I'm aware of that, but i never said anyone from our era was better than him.

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yes you said Hitmandonny that Pacquaio is better than him. hehehehe. mwahahaaha.peace bro. :kar:

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Now where did i say that ??? ;D ???

just joking hitman.LOL

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Originally Posted by brucelee

just joking hitman.LOL

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I no mate ;) :D
Much respect to Pac after beating Barrera.
Again: i was wrong.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by Missy

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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You were doing well till you mentioned pat cowdell ;D cut down the coffee gamo, of course I've seen his fights.

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I'll cut down the coffee if you cut down the S*** you've been smoking. Deal? Or are you bored already? ;D

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You still going? I don't smoke. :)

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Originally Posted by Missy

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by Missy

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Missy and Bruce,have either of you actually seen Sal Sanchez fight? Do you know who he beat? He was a boxer. He was a puncher. His jab. His combinations. His head movement. He beat monstrous monstrous punchers like Wilfredo Gomez,Danny Lopez,he beat a future great Azumah Nelson(whom Sanchez under estimated),he beat established fighters like Pat Cowdell,Ruben Castillo etc. That is a great legacy and had he been alove,he still would have continued but none the less,a great legacy all the same.

And Bruce,Manny has some way to go before his legacy matches Morales and MAB. Just because you beat someone does not mean you have a greater legacy than them.

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You were doing well till you mentioned pat cowdell ;D cut down the coffee gamo, of course I've seen his fights.

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I'll cut down the coffee if you cut down the S*** you've been smoking. Deal? Or are you bored already? ;D

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You still going? I don't smoke. :)

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Well,um,it appears so...and I don't drink coffee ;)

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Originally Posted by Missy

I think a young Nelson did very well and could well have got the UD when more experienced.

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very possible.. was good match

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Pepp
Saddler
MAB
Morales
Abe Attell
Henry Armstrong was a great featherweight

All have a shout

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If these people mentioned by Big H has a "shout" (I think, shot), how much more my boy?

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Nah I meant "shout" and Pac doesn't belong with any of the nnames I mentioned (Yet) ;)

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Without any offense, you mean Pacquaio does not belong with MAB and Morales? That's funny. Last time I checked, PAcquaio was clearly superior than them.

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yes he was and is but the principle of suggestion was the time in their careers that Pac fought them.

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by Missy

let's throw something else is SS that great? Surely he died long before his legacy could be truly established?

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You struck the gold mine Missy. Salvador Sanchez had shown great potentials but he had not truly established yet his legacy. That was what I was trying to point out. cc for that.

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which also applies to your Pac as well. Marque names on ther decline sure generates a buzzz but not placement the list of the all time greats. Neither MAB or EM possesed the KO power to stave off Pac. Thier KO's were mostly attributed to accumalation and both were battle worn. It is easier to come foward when your power is far superior to that of your opponents. I do not see that happening in Pac's move up against a busy younger, hungrier fighter such as Diaz. A fighter not set on only claiming retirement monies. Even fights with Guzman, and Soto are more attractive than bouts against old legends coming off losses. In the trilogy with EM, EM entered each fight coming off a loss. Also in MAB2, MAB was coming off a loss ( Why does no one bring this blatant fact up ? ) . This is not to discredit Pac, what he has done is marvelous and it has earned him big paydays and a large following. However to question SS accomplishments is no different that applying the same rhetoric to Pac. ?????? When was the last time Pac actually fought a fighter capable of even backing him up with power shots? When was the last time he fought an opponent that had really fast hand speed ? (JMM is accurate but not fast handed) When was the last time outside of JMM, that an opponent threw more than a handful of well placed punches per round? In MAB1 PAC fought a fighter at his peak and even that is debatable due to caos in MAB's camp. So hold off on the annointing oil. Pac is not there yet!!!!!! He will be soon !!!!! He pasted JMM in the 1st round and then had his ears boxed off. Pac's fate rests with the JMM fight and the next weight class when he will have to finally have to fend off power shots. It is the KO factor that Pac posses that has makes many overlook little details. I love his fights but I am also smart enough to see questionable circumstances. perhaps PAC is all that but that day has yet to arrive. Enjoy the journey as I feel he is fully capable of being the best ever but the main things he needs to knockout are the doubters. Unfortunately the choice and timing in their careers of his recent opponents leaves many questions to be answered. "When something appears too good to be true", you will have haters (especially when they have valid points of reference)

I think Pep would win by a close ud and Saddler a late stoppage or a ud.