Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$
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JMM should take the lesser purse, if he wins he will be in the money, sucess breeds success and makes money.
You have to also take into consideration that JMM is not young anymore and the main point,as I mentioned in the first post,MAB recieved $2mill,coming off a loss,no title belt and reiceved a whooping in their first fight.
JMM beat MAB,most thought he beat Manny and he has a title belt. It's also the fight fans want to see. JMM deseves the same in my opinion.
I agree with you Gamo like you said Barrera got that amount coming off a loss to Marquez and had no belt and got one sided beating in the first fight with Manny so why should Marquez get shafted like that ?? he gave Pacquiao a hell of a fight it was FOTY and beat Barrera and fans everywhere want to see who really is the best so i don't understand why he can't get the same.
Exactly.CC.
:coolclick: back bro one question i want to ask is why there wasn't automatic rematch between Marquez and Pacquiao ??
A number of reasons,the main being money again. Plus Nacho Beristein who is the yoda of trainers but is quite possibly the worst manager ever. He thought it would be better for JMM to fight John in Indonesia for a low sum,maybe to prove a point? Who knows,but it backfired.
prove a point? like what? we rather fight this guy in indonesia for 30k than go through hell with you pacman for millions of dollars? nacho is a horrible manager, and i hope it isn't him again trying to make a point out of the fact that jmm beat mab and he won majority of the rounds in the first fight with pac so he should get more money then they will. it just doesn't work that way, cause even til now jmm is just not as big as mab or pac. for legacy sake jmm needs to settle for less becuase it isn't him that will sell the fight, he never really had the entire mexico country on his shoulders, mab and eric did. thats why they are so big, and ofcourse pac has philippines and majority of asia on his shoulders plus more from all over united states.
Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$
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Which goes back to my original statement that Paq is the high profile fighter and should get the greater share as he is the known fighter.
caleoh12 CC
Leading back to my point that a guy he beat,a guy JMM beat,a guy with no title,MAB,got the same as Manny in their fight. So why not JMM?
It is not a question of who beats who. It is about who BRINGS BUTTS on the SEATS. Why did ODLH get a higher payday than Mayweather?
So MAB is as big as Manny? I mean they recieved the same. And I think you're underestimating 2 things:
JMM has become much much more well known since being with Goldenboy and the win over MAB enhanced that. Secondly,asses on seats, so B Hop should always get lesser than all his oppnents? Winky too?As technically good as they are,they aren't exciting,so should they always get less? What about their titles?Their accomplishments?
Julius,JMM is now with GoldenBoy. They do the dealing now.And JMM is much more well known than he used to be thans to GoldenBoy. After his win over MAB,he'll have ALOT more Mexican fans.
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Which goes back to my original statement that Paq is the high profile fighter and should get the greater share as he is the known fighter.
caleoh12 CC
Leading back to my point that a guy he beat,a guy JMM beat,a guy with no title,MAB,got the same as Manny in their fight. So why not JMM?
It is not a question of who beats who. It is about who BRINGS BUTTS on the SEATS. Why did ODLH get a higher payday than Mayweather?
exactly :coolclick:
Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$
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Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.
I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.
Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.
Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!
If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?
It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.
This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that ;)
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Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe
Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.
Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$
This fights got to happen. If it doesnt then Pac will get the Mayweather treatment
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Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.
I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.
Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.
Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!
If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?
It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.
This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that ;)
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Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe
Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.
Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac.
Erm,forgive me if I'm wrong,but wasn't the first fight a draw? And didn't most think JMM won?
And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
Jmm's fights with MAB,Terdsak,Jaca were more exciting than Pac's recent fights. They were exciting fullstop.I'm presuming you have not seen these fights?
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Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.
I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.
Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.
Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!
If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?
It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.
This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that ;)
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Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe
Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.
Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
I agree until the last sentence, jmm's fights are not boring the problem with him is people are not interested in him as much as the other elites such as pac mab and eric.
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Which goes back to my original statement that Paq is the high profile fighter and should get the greater share as he is the known fighter.
caleoh12 CC
Leading back to my point that a guy he beat,a guy JMM beat,a guy with no title,MAB,got the same as Manny in their fight. So why not JMM?
It is not a question of who beats who. It is about who BRINGS BUTTS on the SEATS. Why did ODLH get a higher payday than Mayweather?
So MAB is as big as Manny? I mean they recieved the same. And I think you're underestimating 2 things:
JMM has become much much more well known since being with Goldenboy and the win over MAB enhanced that. Secondly,asses on seats, so B Hop should always get lesser than all his oppnents? Winky too?As technically good as they are,they aren't exciting,so should they always get less? What about their titles?Their accomplishments?
Julius,JMM is now with GoldenBoy. They do the dealing now.And JMM is much more well known than he used to be thans to GoldenBoy. After his win over MAB,he'll have ALOT more Mexican fans.
Bhop and Winky has promoters bidding to stage their fights. So yes, THEY ARE MARKETABLE and brings butts on the seats. JMM is just not at this level at this point of his career. But he will be, if he beats Pac. So I think his priority should be to get a FIGHT with Pac, REGARDLESS of the purse. If JMM makes the purse an issue, then JMM is again chickening out.
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Which goes back to my original statement that Paq is the high profile fighter and should get the greater share as he is the known fighter.
caleoh12 CC
Leading back to my point that a guy he beat,a guy JMM beat,a guy with no title,MAB,got the same as Manny in their fight. So why not JMM?
It is not a question of who beats who. It is about who BRINGS BUTTS on the SEATS. Why did ODLH get a higher payday than Mayweather?
So MAB is as big as Manny? I mean they recieved the same. And I think you're underestimating 2 things:
JMM has become much much more well known since being with Goldenboy and the win over MAB enhanced that. Secondly,asses on seats, so B Hop should always get lesser than all his oppnents? Winky too?As technically good as they are,they aren't exciting,so should they always get less? What about their titles?Their accomplishments?
Julius,JMM is now with GoldenBoy. They do the dealing now.And JMM is much more well known than he used to be thans to GoldenBoy. After his win over MAB,he'll have ALOT more Mexican fans.
Bhop and Winky has promoters bidding to stage their fights. So yes, THEY ARE MARKETABLE and brings butts on the seats. JMM is just not at this level at this point of his career. But he will be, if he beats Pac. So I think his priority should be to get a FIGHT with Pac, REGARDLESS of the purse. If JMM makes the purse an issue, then JMM is again chickening out.
I don't understand your first sentence. And I don't understand why it should be only JMM's priority to make the fight. Like I said,ALOT of people scored the fight for JMM,he made Manny look 1 dimensional so surely Manny would want to beat this guy? And JMM chickening out is a silly silly statement. He clearly wants the fight. Why would you "chicken" out of a fight with a guy whom you COMPLETELY outboxed?
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Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.
I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.
Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.
Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!
If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?
It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.
This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that ;)
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Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe
Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.
Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac.
Erm,forgive me if I'm wrong,but wasn't the first fight a draw? And didn't most think JMM won?
And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
Jmm's fights with MAB,Terdsak,Jaca were more exciting than Pac's recent fights. They were exciting fullstop.I'm presuming you have not seen these fights?
Hi El Gamo,
How many PAYING public watched JMMs fights against Terdsak, and Jaca? BUTTS ON SEATS! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! Now, compare that with the latest Pac versus MAB fight.
If you think JMM won the first fight with Pac, fine. I don't want to argue with that. But that isn't the point of my responses. If he is not afraid, TAKE THE FIGHT, regardless of the purse.
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Bhop, Winky, heck Oscar, MAB, Paq have all taken fights where they were not expected to win and earned the right to be marquee fighters. JMM is a good fighter but not an elite, he will when he fights and beats Paq. He will be in the money! Do not blame Paq only if the fight does not happen, the pressure should be on JMM to make the fight. He needs it more.
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Bhop, Winky, heck Oscar, MAB, Paq have all taken fights where they were not expected to win and earned the right to be marquee fighters. JMM is a good fighter but not an elite, he will when he fights and beats Paq. He will be in the money! Do not blame Paq only if the fight does not happen, the pressure should be on JMM to make the fight. He needs it more.
He's not elite? In what sense? Becuase I'm pretty sure JMM is on like a high % of P4P lists.
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Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.
I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.
Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.
Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!
If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?
It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.
This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that ;)
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Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe
Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.
Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac.
Erm,forgive me if I'm wrong,but wasn't the first fight a draw? And didn't most think JMM won?
And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
Jmm's fights with MAB,Terdsak,Jaca were more exciting than Pac's recent fights. They were exciting fullstop.I'm presuming you have not seen these fights?
Hi El Gamo,
How many PAYING public watched JMMs fights against Terdsak, and Jaca? BUTTS ON SEATS! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! Now, compare that with the latest Pac versus MAB fight.
If you think JMM won the first fight with Pac, fine. I don't want to argue with that. But that isn't the point of my responses. If he is not afraid, TAKE THE FIGHT, regardless of the purse.
Hello. :)
I'll say it again: Manny has just as much if not more to prove by fighting JMM. Why doesn't MANNY take the FIGHT regardless of the PURSE? Is Manny AFRAID?
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exactly :coolclick:
Hi Julius,
Thanks for the CC. I don't know how to CC back though. Newbie here. How do you guys do it?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Master
Bhop, Winky, heck Oscar, MAB, Paq have all taken fights where they were not expected to win and earned the right to be marquee fighters. JMM is a good fighter but not an elite, he will when he fights and beats Paq. He will be in the money! Do not blame Paq only if the fight does not happen, the pressure should be on JMM to make the fight. He needs it more.
He's not elite? In what sense? Becuase I'm pretty sure JMM is on like a high % of P4P lists.
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Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.
I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.
Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.
Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!
If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?
It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.
This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that ;)
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Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe
Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.
Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac.
Erm,forgive me if I'm wrong,but wasn't the first fight a draw? And didn't most think JMM won?
And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
Jmm's fights with MAB,Terdsak,Jaca were more exciting than Pac's recent fights. They were exciting fullstop.I'm presuming you have not seen these fights?
Hi El Gamo,
How many PAYING public watched JMMs fights against Terdsak, and Jaca? BUTTS ON SEATS! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! Now, compare that with the latest Pac versus MAB fight.
If you think JMM won the first fight with Pac, fine. I don't want to argue with that. But that isn't the point of my responses. If he is not afraid, TAKE THE FIGHT, regardless of the purse.
Hello. :)
I'll say it again: Manny has just as much if not more to prove by fighting JMM. Why doesn't MANNY take the FIGHT regardless of the PURSE? Is Manny AFRAID?
El Gamo, we are going around in circles. This is what you are saying:
1) JMM is the belt-holder. He beat Pac the first time they met (according to you). Manny must fight Marquez to prove he is better.
All your arguments doesn't translate to greater prize purses if you have been reading my responses. Other champions in the other boxing divisions from flyweight to heavyweight can also claim this but they DON'T GET MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR purses. Why is JMM any different?
Manny isn't afraid. His managers are SMART. They know who brings in the MONEY. They know who should get a bigger prize share. JMM is trying to outwit Manny's managers.
Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$
Marquez definitely isn't just a good fighter. He's currently #3, right after Pacquiao, in RING Magazine's pound-for-pound list. #2 vs #3 pound-for-pound, c'mon, can we ask for anything better?!
