I'm a really big Sturm fan,but if he shows up that way against Abraham, Taylor or Pavlik
he will be eaten alive...
He hides way to much behind his defense...
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I'm a really big Sturm fan,but if he shows up that way against Abraham, Taylor or Pavlik
he will be eaten alive...
He hides way to much behind his defense...
I think it's become quite obvious why Strum won't step up the competition. He's not really that good. I think Pavilk, Taylor and Miranda all crush him. He needs to keep doing what he's doing. Staying his ass in Europe defending against mediocre opponents. It's the only way he stays champion.
Sturm interview:Sturm talks already about a rematch says Griffin earned it though he thinks that he won
the fight...
Griffin interview:Griffin believes he won he definitely would take the rematch...
Fight night is over CCed everybody on this thread even VD ;D
Where the hell is wacko I did this mainly for him...
That's the third big suprise in the prediction comp this weekend, Lujon KO'ing Matthyse, Walker getting KTFO in 10 seconds and now Sturm escaping with a draw :-\
Fair to say that pretty much everybody has lost their joker picks this week.
In Sturms defense I have to say that Randy Griffin really did throw alot...they don't do punch
statistics on german tv,but I would guess Griffin did throw close to 1000 punches in the fight...
If Sturm had Abrahams power (or Taylor/Pavlik) he would have knocked Griffin out I'm sure of that...
But he doesn't and thats that...
And in addition to that he didn't move around the ring like he normally did...I still don't know
what was wrong tonight,but this was bad performance by Sturm...maybe he shouldn't have taken
that in between fight vs Tulio Gonzalez Alcoba...
A fecking! Draw!!! >:mad
That's it the hell with Sturm... There you go Wacks theres your Sturm fella.
>:mad
Really disappointing result except for the Oscar fight i had never really been that impressed with Sturm when he faces one of the top 160's he will get beaten no question.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft
Ahhh come on guys everybody has a bad day...
Two pics...only 2 I've found...If you find more please post them...
http://www.ov-online.de/images/stori...onlineBild.jpg
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archiv...e__413832g.jpg
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Shit happens. Sturm's had a bad run of late but I aint bailing out on him just for that. Plenty of fighters have issues through out their careers. Win, lose, or draw Sturm's a great boxer & that's all that counts to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
You don't have to remain undefeated for me to be a fan.
FightNews made it sound like a pretty exciting fight. Nothing wrong with that.
I don't have a huge problem with him pulling out a draw if it was legit & the fighter was up for the bout...I aint gonna lie & say that I'm totally satisfied with a draw because I would much rather have seen him win.
Sturm retains WBA middleweight title with draw against Griffin!
http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...uPqEyaoTq.html
Saturday, October 20 2007
By Karl Freitag
WBA middleweight champion Felix Sturm (28-2-1, 12 KOs) retained his world title with a twelve round draw with mandatory challenger Randy Griffin (24-1-3, 12 KOs) in a very tough fight on Saturday night at the Gerry Weber Stadion in Halle/Westfalen, Germany. Sturm had a good first round, landing sharp jabs and a nice uppercut. Griffin was aggressive, but had problems getting past Sturm's peek-a-boo defense. Griffin upped the pressure in round two and both fighters landed good punches, Sturm landing a big right near the end of the round. The bout continued at a very high level in round three, with Sturm landing the cleaner punches. Good two-way action in rounds four and five. Griffin amped up the attack in the sixth, forcing Sturm to the ropes several times. Another strong round for Griffin in the seventh. What had been somewhat of a slugfest turned into a boxing match in rounds eight through ten with Sturm and Griffin staying in the middle of the ring demonstrating their technical skills. Griffin was busier in round eleven, while Sturm landed the cleaner punches. Both fighters needed round twelfth and dug down deep with a tired Sturm ending with a late flurry. Scores were 114-114, 117-114 Griffin, 115-114 Sturm.
Just because he pulled out a draw doesn't automatically equate to Sturm being a lost cause as a fighter or a champion.
I think that he's still got some good rounds left in him & he has proven that he's worthy of his place in the middleweight division.
Wacko is right...the only thing one could say is that Sturm should have beaten someone with
Griffins record,but Griffin was tough taking what Sturm gave,while having a very high punch
output himself, pressuring Sturm throughout the whole fight...Sturm was the far more effective
boxer and Griffin was busier...
Sturm hid behind his defense trying to counter while Griffin should punch himself out...
The plan didn't work,cause Griffin didn't really tire and Sturm didn't do enough...it was
enough for a draw... I had Sturm winning,but close...
Sturm had a bad night nothing more... ;)
I guess cause I just expected more from him then a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I was hoping to see him finish this one off with a TKO.
Maybe Randy Griffin is a lot better then people give him credit?
Remember when Joshua Clottey had that real tough fight not too long ago and people wrote him off(it was against a guy who was low blowing him) but it turns out that guy was better then credit was given and is a good prospect too?