Re: MANNY PACQUIAO......................... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
What do you mean nowhere to run? PAC is not avoiding JMM. I'd say PAC by a UD.
I guess you missed the last 11 rounds of their first fight ;)
why, did JMM win the last 11 rounds then?
9 or 10 of them
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Pavlik
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
What do you mean nowhere to run? PAC is not avoiding JMM. I'd say PAC by a UD.
I guess you missed the last 11 rounds of their first fight ;)
why, did JMM win the last 11 rounds then?
9 or 10 of them
so how did it end up a draw considering one judge made an error in scoring?
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I also had JMM winning the majority of the rounds. It was a counter punching master class minus round 1. He showed heart,grit,determination and skill.
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How is Juan stronger then Pacman the guy has not power people keep saying he is stronger he is no stronger then a feather or superfeatehrweight
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO......................... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Pavlik
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
What do you mean nowhere to run? PAC is not avoiding JMM. I'd say PAC by a UD.
I guess you missed the last 11 rounds of their first fight ;)
why, did JMM win the last 11 rounds then?
9 or 10 of them
so how did it end up a draw considering one judge made an error in scoring?
Ummm........
Because Pac had a really good 1st round, plus he's considered a "judge's favorite."
Welcome to boxing sweetheart ;)
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Pavlik
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
What do you mean nowhere to run? PAC is not avoiding JMM. I'd say PAC by a UD.
I guess you missed the last 11 rounds of their first fight ;)
why, did JMM win the last 11 rounds then?
9 or 10 of them
so how did it end up a draw considering one judge made an error in scoring?
Ummm........
Because Pac had a really good 1st round, plus he's considered a "judge's favorite."
Welcome to boxing sweetheart ;)
a judge favorite? where did you get that from frozen? pac has only won one decision in the united states, and the rest of his wins are via k.o. Believe me your absolutely wrong with your statement of a judge favorite.
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO......................... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
Ummm........
Because Pac had a really good 1st round, plus he's considered a "judge's favorite."
Welcome to boxing sweetheart ;)
;D that's funny considering that PAC only won one decision in US ;D
I think that's a lame excuse brotha ;D
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO..... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
1. The next 11 rounds Pacquiao fought with a broken left hand which was basically his whole offense at that time
2. Marquez hasn't gotten better basically the same and a little less and was beaten by chris john who should be somewhere in the mix
3. Pacquiao has improved 10 times the amount since that match and implemented counter punching, a jab and a right hook to his game.
4. He's beaten Barerra twice and in easier fashions then Marquez struggled with him to do.
5. JMM isn't improving with every fight and gets hit a lot more then he used to.
6. Pacquiao has improved so much it would be a different kind of matchup and fight for that instance.
7. Pacquiao by late TKO
8. Why are you still living 3 years into the past with that fight as if neither got better or worse?
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO..... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
1. The next 11 rounds Pacquiao fought with a broken left hand which was basically his whole offense at that time
2. Marquez hasn't gotten better basically the same and a little less and was beaten by chris john who should be somewhere in the mix
3. Pacquiao has improved 10 times the amount since that match and implemented counter punching, a jab and a right hook to his game.
4. He's beaten Barerra twice and in easier fashions then Marquez struggled with him to do.
5. JMM isn't improving with every fight and gets hit a lot more then he used to.
6. Pacquiao has improved so much it would be a different kind of matchup and fight for that instance.
7. Pacquiao by late TKO
8. Why are you still living 3 years into the past with that fight as if neither got better or worse?
great points majesty :coolclick:
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO..... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
1. The next 11 rounds Pacquiao fought with a broken left hand which was basically his whole offense at that time
2. Marquez hasn't gotten better basically the same and a little less and was beaten by chris john who should be somewhere in the mix
3. Pacquiao has improved 10 times the amount since that match and implemented counter punching, a jab and a right hook to his game.
4. He's beaten Barerra twice and in easier fashions then Marquez struggled with him to do.
5. JMM isn't improving with every fight and gets hit a lot more then he used to.
6. Pacquiao has improved so much it would be a different kind of matchup and fight for that instance.
7. Pacquiao by late TKO
8. Why are you still living 3 years into the past with that fight as if neither got better or worse?
Exactly my sentiments. He has to live in the past since this is all he has right now to defend JMM. Pacman has beaten EM twice, MB twice and along the way Larios, Solis and some other guy LOL sorry I forgot his name. Don't you think Pac improved and gained experience during those hard fought fights? You can't predict UD for JMM by using the first match as a scale not anymore. Too long and too many fights ago. Pacquiao by TKO before the 9th if Marquez decides to trade. Pacquiao by UD if Marquez boxes. And we all know what Pac will try to do.
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO..... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
1. The next 11 rounds Pacquiao fought with a broken left hand which was basically his whole offense at that time
2. Marquez hasn't gotten better basically the same and a little less and was beaten by chris john who should be somewhere in the mix
3. Pacquiao has improved 10 times the amount since that match and implemented counter punching, a jab and a right hook to his game.
4. He's beaten Barerra twice and in easier fashions then Marquez struggled with him to do.
5. JMM isn't improving with every fight and gets hit a lot more then he used to.
6. Pacquiao has improved so much it would be a different kind of matchup and fight for that instance.
7. Pacquiao by late TKO
8. Why are you still living 3 years into the past with that fight as if neither got better or worse?
Pacquiao fought with a broken hand? First I've heard of that but it amazes me that there are so many excuses. Wasn't he wearing the wrong socks>? Wasn't his foot swollen? I'm sorry,sore was it? Despite Manny managing to RUN back to his corner after the third round.
He's beaten MAB twice,but you're saying Frozen is living in the past(gosh I can't believe I'm defending this guy!) but didn't Pac beat MAB the first time "in the past". I thought JMM,a natural counter puncher turned agressive fighter for the MAB fight looked much better than Manny did the second time v MAB. Also,anyone who saw the John fight,and I know few did,know it was a hometown decision although Maquez was an ass to go there in the first place!
The only thing I will agree with you is that Manny has improved and JMM has taken more punches,so I'd make Manny a slight favourite for sure. The rest of your points were'nt legitimate though,you're slipping Maj!
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hehehe. we are all caught in frozen's web. can't believe we are fighting over this thread.
beware of frozen's sly tactics. ;D
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO..... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
1. The next 11 rounds Pacquiao fought with a broken left hand which was basically his whole offense at that time
2. Marquez hasn't gotten better basically the same and a little less and was beaten by chris john who should be somewhere in the mix
3. Pacquiao has improved 10 times the amount since that match and implemented counter punching, a jab and a right hook to his game.
4. He's beaten Barerra twice and in easier fashions then Marquez struggled with him to do.
5. JMM isn't improving with every fight and gets hit a lot more then he used to.
6. Pacquiao has improved so much it would be a different kind of matchup and fight for that instance.
7. Pacquiao by late TKO
8. Why are you still living 3 years into the past with that fight as if neither got better or worse?
Been out with some ol' computer problems... Actually it was his feet that went bad, really bad. I know many guys here will scoff off at that but you see, that's only because they haven't seen the photo or vid of his feet taken right after the fight, or more likely, don't even care or want to see them anyway. That's why I've been asking anyone who has that photo or vid that was shown on the local tv right after the fight there from the ringside, to share it here. At least, nobody will be able to deny that pac's feet were in terrible condition if they'd seen the vid, even though they may still doggedly and futilely ;D argue that it had nothing to do with his 'loss' and, of course, I won't be foolish enough to waste my time trying to convince any of you 'it was so.' He did also have badly swollen hands but I don't think that's an issue cuz boxers can still bang their opponents with swollen fists; but a swollen feet will badly affect his movement and speed. All right, just for the sake of argument, let's say a boxer has feet swollen into double their usual size (I'm exagerrating here though) - can anyone honestly say that it won't affect his performance? Just watch round 2 of the fight, JMM hadn't still fully recovered and there wasn't much counterpunching to talk about in that round either. It was pac who stopped cold, he started to wander around in circles as if he had a problem, and everyone who knows pac well enough knows that's not the usual pac cuz he'd normally go on charging in relentlessly when he smells blood, taking few shots in along the way. Go ahead, take a look again. Of course I can't prove that 100% but I think pac will prove that himself in the rematch, as he usually does. But I have a nasty feeling the Marquez might price himself out of the fight again. I hope I'm wrong on this one though... Adios for now! I'll be back.
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i have the video penalosa fan. just bought it last month upon remembering your appeal. yes, I've already told some people about it.
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JMM beats Pac. Wait and see.