Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Froch has a longer jab, is more difficult to hit, slicker, better reflexes, harder puncher, better right uppercut, more punch variety, even better ring generalship, and more patient.
Kessler stands in front of you and throws jabs, crosses and a textbook hook to the body or head, his defense is feet and blocking shots to the body and head on the way back.
Froch bangs him up with the counters from range and comes forward to stop him smoothly in the fifth.
If the fight ever happens, which i don't think it will, id be willing to bet my entire Saddoboxing profile to the contrary.
I would join hitmandonny here. Froch couldn't stop Kess. The guy has never been knocked down in his entire career including amateur. Kess would just take him apart.
Thanks bz....
Not long left now huh???!
Delighted for ya and hope you have a ball!!!!!
On the Froch/Kessler question...
Froch prides himself on counterpeunching with the power preventing a continued retaliation....
The fact is his power would not faze Kessler, he'd march forward use his own power and Froch would be forced to fight or flee. Froch drops the left as a distraction so as to throw his right, Kessler grabs this opportunity and uses THAT straight right
Cheers man, I fly tomorrow morning.
I agree with you. I don't see how Froch has the power to hurt Kessler. Every time Joe dropped his hands Kessler pounced on him. The last round was tough as Joe wanted to showboat but Kess just went for the KO. If Froch drops the left, Kess will punish him, and Froch hasn't proven he can take a punch. Unfortunately, I'm unlikely to find out this or the Haye result until I get back on Monday.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Nium
Froch has a longer jab, is more difficult to hit, slicker, better reflexes, harder puncher, better right uppercut, more punch variety, even better ring generalship, and more patient.
Kessler stands in front of you and throws jabs, crosses and a textbook hook to the body or head, his defense is feet and blocking shots to the body and head on the way back.
Froch bangs him up with the counters from range and comes forward to stop him smoothly in the fifth.
If the fight ever happens, which i don't think it will, id be willing to bet my entire Saddoboxing profile to the contrary.
I would join hitmandonny here. Froch couldn't stop Kess. The guy has never been knocked down in his entire career including amateur. Kess would just take him apart.
Thanks bz....
Not long left now huh???!
Delighted for ya and hope you have a ball!!!!!
On the Froch/Kessler question...
Froch prides himself on counterpeunching with the power preventing a continued retaliation....
The fact is his power would not faze Kessler, he'd march forward use his own power and Froch would be forced to fight or flee. Froch drops the left as a distraction so as to throw his right, Kessler grabs this opportunity and uses THAT straight right
Cheers man, I fly tomorrow morning.
I agree with you. I don't see how Froch has the power to hurt Kessler. Every time Joe dropped his hands Kessler pounced on him. The last round was tough as Joe wanted to showboat but Kess just went for the KO. If Froch drops the left, Kess will punish him, and Froch hasn't proven he can take a punch. Unfortunately, I'm unlikely to find out this or the Haye result until I get back on Monday.
Well enjoy it and take plenty of pics, this is something your gonna remember forever!!!
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Lacy is definitely not to be ruled out!And Bute has displayed intent in his last number of fights.
I d say that Kessler has the advantage over them all after getting sucy good rounds in with Joe.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Lacy is definitely not to be ruled out!And Bute has displayed intent in his last number of fights.
I d say that Kessler has the advantage over them all after getting sucy good rounds in with Joe.
but whats to say Bute and Froch couldnt get good rounds in against JC? Bika got rounds in against JC but he still wouldnt get favoured over Froch or Bute. I think Kessler is the best out of them dont get me wrong, but i dont understand why hes getting so much worship at the end of the day he lost the fight. He is the best at 168 when JC leaves but hes greatest threats will be froch, Mundine and Bute will definatly give him a run for his money. I think the 168 devision has some awesome fights to happen.
And i hope Froch can come out on top ;D
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Lacy is definitely not to be ruled out!And Bute has displayed intent in his last number of fights.
I d say that Kessler has the advantage over them all after getting sucy good rounds in with Joe.
but whats to say Bute and Froch couldnt get good rounds in against JC? Bika got rounds in against JC but he still wouldnt get favoured over Froch or Bute. I think Kessler is the best out of them dont get me wrong, but i dont understand why hes getting so much worship at the end of the day he lost the fight. He is the best at 168 when JC leaves but hes greatest threats will be froch, Mundine and Bute will definatly give him a run for his money. I think the 168 devision has some awesome fights to happen.
And i hope Froch can come out on top ;D
We're agreeing again, but my point is that the rounds Kessler got in against Cal, were a lot more valuable than the ones which Lacy received. The value and expierience of being in the ring with the undisputed best SMW in the world is immeasurable. Kessler will have learned from this fight, things that Lacy, Bute and Froch have not or will not as Joe is unlikely to campaign at SMW again and certainly IMO not against these guys.
The reason Kessler is getting so much credit is because his performance against Calzaghe was very impressive, had Calzaghe's chin been a little less solid or his conditioning a little below par, that was Kesslers fight.
As for Mundine, i have'nt got a verdict on him just yet as i haven't seen too much of him.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Lacy is definitely not to be ruled out!And Bute has displayed intent in his last number of fights.
I d say that Kessler has the advantage over them all after getting sucy good rounds in with Joe.
but whats to say Bute and Froch couldnt get good rounds in against JC? Bika got rounds in against JC but he still wouldnt get favoured over Froch or Bute. I think Kessler is the best out of them dont get me wrong, but i dont understand why hes getting so much worship at the end of the day he lost the fight. He is the best at 168 when JC leaves but hes greatest threats will be froch, Mundine and Bute will definatly give him a run for his money. I think the 168 devision has some awesome fights to happen.
And i hope Froch can come out on top ;D
We're agreeing again, but my point is that the rounds Kessler got in against Cal, were a lot more valuable than the ones which Lacy received. The value and expierience of being in the ring with the undisputed best SMW in the world is immeasurable. Kessler will have learned from this fight, things that Lacy, Bute and Froch have not or will not as Joe is unlikely to campaign at SMW again and certainly IMO not against these guys.
The reason Kessler is getting so much credit is because his performance against Calzaghe was very impressive, had Calzaghe's chin been a little less solid or his conditioning a little below par, that was Kesslers fight.
As for Mundine, i have'nt got a verdict on him just yet as i haven't seen too much of him.
It will be good to see how it all plans out. I agree he did well, and it will be intresting how he acts at the top. He needs another big fight and he will be right up there. Froch and Bute need more fights and when they come it will be an awesome fight for kessler.
Its strange to here how many stick JC got before this fight and how much of a god he is now. I knew he was the best and would show everyone.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Lacy is definitely not to be ruled out!And Bute has displayed intent in his last number of fights.
I d say that Kessler has the advantage over them all after getting sucy good rounds in with Joe.
but whats to say Bute and Froch couldnt get good rounds in against JC? Bika got rounds in against JC but he still wouldnt get favoured over Froch or Bute. I think Kessler is the best out of them dont get me wrong, but i dont understand why hes getting so much worship at the end of the day he lost the fight. He is the best at 168 when JC leaves but hes greatest threats will be froch, Mundine and Bute will definatly give him a run for his money. I think the 168 devision has some awesome fights to happen.
And i hope Froch can come out on top ;D
We're agreeing again, but my point is that the rounds Kessler got in against Cal, were a lot more valuable than the ones which Lacy received. The value and expierience of being in the ring with the undisputed best SMW in the world is immeasurable. Kessler will have learned from this fight, things that Lacy, Bute and Froch have not or will not as Joe is unlikely to campaign at SMW again and certainly IMO not against these guys.
The reason Kessler is getting so much credit is because his performance against Calzaghe was very impressive, had Calzaghe's chin been a little less solid or his conditioning a little below par, that was Kesslers fight.
As for Mundine, i have'nt got a verdict on him just yet as i haven't seen too much of him.
It will be good to see how it all plans out. I agree he did well, and it will be intresting how he acts at the top. He needs another big fight and he will be right up there. Froch and Bute need more fights and when they come it will be an awesome fight for kessler.
Its strange to here how many stick JC got before this fight and how much of a god he is now. I knew he was the best and would show everyone.
Yeah i knew u were behind Joe.
You know after u mentioned him i got to thinking...Sakio Bika would be a good stepping stone for Froch, he's tough as nails, but can be outboxed and Froch would get a lot of positive press for a win there.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Lacy is definitely not to be ruled out!And Bute has displayed intent in his last number of fights.
I d say that Kessler has the advantage over them all after getting sucy good rounds in with Joe.
but whats to say Bute and Froch couldnt get good rounds in against JC? Bika got rounds in against JC but he still wouldnt get favoured over Froch or Bute. I think Kessler is the best out of them dont get me wrong, but i dont understand why hes getting so much worship at the end of the day he lost the fight. He is the best at 168 when JC leaves but hes greatest threats will be froch, Mundine and Bute will definatly give him a run for his money. I think the 168 devision has some awesome fights to happen.
And i hope Froch can come out on top ;D
We're agreeing again, but my point is that the rounds Kessler got in against Cal, were a lot more valuable than the ones which Lacy received. The value and expierience of being in the ring with the undisputed best SMW in the world is immeasurable. Kessler will have learned from this fight, things that Lacy, Bute and Froch have not or will not as Joe is unlikely to campaign at SMW again and certainly IMO not against these guys.
The reason Kessler is getting so much credit is because his performance against Calzaghe was very impressive, had Calzaghe's chin been a little less solid or his conditioning a little below par, that was Kesslers fight.
As for Mundine, i have'nt got a verdict on him just yet as i haven't seen too much of him.
It will be good to see how it all plans out. I agree he did well, and it will be intresting how he acts at the top. He needs another big fight and he will be right up there. Froch and Bute need more fights and when they come it will be an awesome fight for kessler.
Its strange to here how many stick JC got before this fight and how much of a god he is now. I knew he was the best and would show everyone.
Yeah i knew u were behind Joe.
You know after u mentioned him i got to thinking...Sakio Bika would be a good stepping stone for Froch, he's tough as nails, but can be outboxed and Froch would get a lot of positive press for a win there.
I dont want to say too much but after Bikas performance last night this could be a good fight for both men. He could also play a part in the 168 devision.
Re: Mikkel Kessler VS Carl 'the Cobra' Froch
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Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Lacy is definitely not to be ruled out!And Bute has displayed intent in his last number of fights.
I d say that Kessler has the advantage over them all after getting sucy good rounds in with Joe.
but whats to say Bute and Froch couldnt get good rounds in against JC? Bika got rounds in against JC but he still wouldnt get favoured over Froch or Bute. I think Kessler is the best out of them dont get me wrong, but i dont understand why hes getting so much worship at the end of the day he lost the fight. He is the best at 168 when JC leaves but hes greatest threats will be froch, Mundine and Bute will definatly give him a run for his money. I think the 168 devision has some awesome fights to happen.
And i hope Froch can come out on top ;D
We're agreeing again, but my point is that the rounds Kessler got in against Cal, were a lot more valuable than the ones which Lacy received. The value and expierience of being in the ring with the undisputed best SMW in the world is immeasurable. Kessler will have learned from this fight, things that Lacy, Bute and Froch have not or will not as Joe is unlikely to campaign at SMW again and certainly IMO not against these guys.
The reason Kessler is getting so much credit is because his performance against Calzaghe was very impressive, had Calzaghe's chin been a little less solid or his conditioning a little below par, that was Kesslers fight.
As for Mundine, i have'nt got a verdict on him just yet as i haven't seen too much of him.
It will be good to see how it all plans out. I agree he did well, and it will be intresting how he acts at the top. He needs another big fight and he will be right up there. Froch and Bute need more fights and when they come it will be an awesome fight for kessler.
Its strange to here how many stick JC got before this fight and how much of a god he is now. I knew he was the best and would show everyone.
Yeah i knew u were behind Joe.
You know after u mentioned him i got to thinking...Sakio Bika would be a good stepping stone for Froch, he's tough as nails, but can be outboxed and Froch would get a lot of positive press for a win there.
I dont want to say too much but after Bikas performance last night this could be a good fight for both men. He could also play a part in the 168 devision.
I didn't see the Bika fight lsat night, but i feel he's guy that could well be beneficial to Froch's career
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Carl Froch would do a lot better than most of you actually think. Hes growing into a stronger fighter and i do admit that he has been slow into challenging for the title. But he is going to be on the world scene before you know it. He will stop Reid and fight for a title very soon. After he gets the expereince of fighting on the higher level and his power will be awesome at the top. Hes experience and stamina will grow and he will push Kessler. I hope it doesnt happen too soon but when it does it will be explosive. If Froch catches anybody with a right uppercut they will wobble.
It will be a good fight and could go either way at this momment in time i favour Kessler, but in the near future im thinking Froch Ko.
I like Froch, i do, but he's 30. How much more can he grow at such an advanced age???
He's not a young prospect any more.
I notice that he is growing and improving as his fights progress definatly in his last 3 he has looked his best, way out of his fighters leagues!
I'll agree that he waas way out of his opponents league, but for me thats more of a reflection on the quality of the opposition.
For me Froch is a good boxer, world class? Certainly...but is it coincedental that his step up in class is coming at a time when Calzaghe is leaving SMW?...I think not.
Like i said he's a good boxer, but he's been a big fish in a small pond now for a long time without ever threatening breaking through into the mainstream.
He would fight JC if he could. In a way it does give him the opportunity to fight for a title get in some good defences and then challenge Kessler. I think Kessler needs to go after him or Lucian Bute to prove he is the best. I still believe jeff lacy is still in the equation and it will be intresting to see how this spans out. I hope Froch will get a good fight against some good fighters and i do believe he can stop them.
Lacy is definitely not to be ruled out!And Bute has displayed intent in his last number of fights.
I d say that Kessler has the advantage over them all after getting sucy good rounds in with Joe.
but whats to say Bute and Froch couldnt get good rounds in against JC? Bika got rounds in against JC but he still wouldnt get favoured over Froch or Bute. I think Kessler is the best out of them dont get me wrong, but i dont understand why hes getting so much worship at the end of the day he lost the fight. He is the best at 168 when JC leaves but hes greatest threats will be froch, Mundine and Bute will definatly give him a run for his money. I think the 168 devision has some awesome fights to happen.
And i hope Froch can come out on top ;D
We're agreeing again, but my point is that the rounds Kessler got in against Cal, were a lot more valuable than the ones which Lacy received. The value and expierience of being in the ring with the undisputed best SMW in the world is immeasurable. Kessler will have learned from this fight, things that Lacy, Bute and Froch have not or will not as Joe is unlikely to campaign at SMW again and certainly IMO not against these guys.
The reason Kessler is getting so much credit is because his performance against Calzaghe was very impressive, had Calzaghe's chin been a little less solid or his conditioning a little below par, that was Kesslers fight.
As for Mundine, i have'nt got a verdict on him just yet as i haven't seen too much of him.
It will be good to see how it all plans out. I agree he did well, and it will be intresting how he acts at the top. He needs another big fight and he will be right up there. Froch and Bute need more fights and when they come it will be an awesome fight for kessler.
Its strange to here how many stick JC got before this fight and how much of a god he is now. I knew he was the best and would show everyone.
Yeah i knew u were behind Joe.
You know after u mentioned him i got to thinking...Sakio Bika would be a good stepping stone for Froch, he's tough as nails, but can be outboxed and Froch would get a lot of positive press for a win there.
I dont want to say too much but after Bikas performance last night this could be a good fight for both men. He could also play a part in the 168 devision.
I didn't see the Bika fight lsat night, but i feel he's guy that could well be beneficial to Froch's career
apparetnly its fight of the year contending. this is a spoiler so i wont say too much. But yes i agree Froch would be a good fight for Bika and vice versia.
