Margarito v Cotto needs to happen.

Margarito chin and power not to mention his uppercuts and punch out put Cotto is going to be trouble styles make fights.

Am I the only one who who felt bad for poor Golden Johnson? Not only did he get completely annihilated to the point of embarassment, but after that first knockdown he looked to be in serious pain. Normally a fighter just looks dazed when he hits the canvas but Johnson was holding his head and cringing like he just got hit with a hammer.

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Am I the only one who who felt bad for poor Golden Johnson? Not only did he get completely annihilated to the point of embarassment, but after that first knockdown he looked to be in serious pain. Normally a fighter just looks dazed when he hits the canvas but Johnson was holding his head and cringing like he just got hit with a hammer.

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I felt bad for him just because it was such an embarassing way to lose in that short of time. Tony wasn't playing around.

He sure wasn't. That's one of the reasons I could never be a pro fighter. I couldn't handle being wrecked like that in front of so many people.

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i think Margatito should take on Paul Williams again.
if he is so much better now then he should have no problem in beating Williams.
He has no right in my opinion challenging Cotto/Mayweather/Hatton until that happens.
or since Cintron also looks so much better than before, i think he should give Cintron a rematch.

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Thats a bit silly to say he has no right to challenge them when he has been in the WW division far far longer than of all them.And I would not mind seeing him beat up on Cintron again,just because Kermit has been beating these c grade fighters and looking good whilst doing so,does not mean he will do better v Tony. PW was offered the immediate rematch and refused. Had Margarito not fought Williams,he would have fought Cotto,so he has just as much right as anyone else to ask to face either of those guys. They have all had thei shots at the bigtime,now it's his turn.

you know what I think of Margarito getting a shot at Cotto at this moment..

but on a positive note. It was great to see Margarito of before with that incredible punches like a Mule. poor golden Johnson. he said to the corner "someone is throwing bombs at me who is it?" ;D

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you know what I think of Margarito getting a shot at Cotto at this moment..

but on a positive note. It was great to see Margarito of before with that incredible punches like a Mule. poor golden Johnson. he said to the corner "someone is throwing bombs at me who is it?" ;D

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Those bombs weren't coming from George Bush ;D Tiajuana Tornado babe ;) I feel for Tony's sparring partners.

I was just reading an interview with Bob Arum and he said if Floyd isn't available or doesn't want to fight Cotto depending on the outcome of Mayweather/Hatton, then they are going to try and set up a Cotto/Margarito fight for June on Puerto Rican Day. Would be a dream fight for me, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

This would be a great fight...Cotto won't last the distance!

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i think Margatito should take on Paul Williams again.
if he is so much better now then he should have no problem in beating Williams.
He has no right in my opinion challenging Cotto/Mayweather/Hatton until that happens.
or since Cintron also looks so much better than before, i think he should give Cintron a rematch.

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That's a bit silly to say he has no right to challenge them when he has been in the WW division far far longer than of all them.And I would not mind seeing him beat up on Cintron again,just because Kermit has been beating these c grade fighters and looking good whilst doing so,does not mean he will do better v Tony. PW was offered the immediate rematch and refused. Had Margarito not fought Williams,he would have fought Cotto,so he has just as much right as anyone else to ask to face either of those guys. They have all had thei shots at the bigtime,now it's his turn.

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you know what, you're right. i wouldn't mind seeing this fight.i 'm just saying that just because you have been in the division longer does not make you the king of it. It really doesn't mater you have to earn your shot!! and as of right now since Tony lost his title, all he has done is beat on Golden Johnson who by the way just like Cintron's opponents is a C class fighter as well ::** . So you say, you lose a fight , beat up a C class fighter and you get to fight Cotto or Mayweather?? i think you need to take those certain steps. fighting Cintron or Williams first, is taking those necessary steps to have a bigger fight against Cotto or Mayweather. regardless I'm all down to watch this fight if it happens.

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i think Margatito should take on Paul Williams again.
if he is so much better now then he should have no problem in beating Williams.
He has no right in my opinion challenging Cotto/Mayweather/Hatton until that happens.
or since Cintron also looks so much better than before, i think he should give Cintron a rematch.

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That's a bit silly to say he has no right to challenge them when he has been in the WW division far far longer than of all them.And I would not mind seeing him beat up on Cintron again,just because Kermit has been beating these c grade fighters and looking good whilst doing so,does not mean he will do better v Tony. PW was offered the immediate rematch and refused. Had Margarito not fought Williams,he would have fought Cotto,so he has just as much right as anyone else to ask to face either of those guys. They have all had thei shots at the bigtime,now it's his turn.

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you know what, you're right. i wouldn't mind seeing this fight.i 'm just saying that just because you have been in the division longer does not make you the king of it. It really doesn't mater you have to earn your shot!! and as of right now since Tony lost his title, all he has done is beat on Golden Johnson who by the way just like Cintron's opponents is a C class fighter as well ::** . So you say, you lose a fight , beat up a C class fighter and you get to fight Cotto or Mayweather?? i think you need to take those certain steps. fighting Cintron or Williams first, is taking those necessary steps to have a bigger fight against Cotto or Mayweather. regardless I'm all down to watch this fight if it happens.

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Cintron is getting a unification next year v Williams,that's his big shot. Margarito has beaten better fighters than both Cintron and Williams. In fact,aside form Mayweather,and Cotto,Tony has the best resume(assuming Shane is retired) so yes,he does deserve a shot. Margarito has also given Clottey,Williams and Cintron their shots at his title,no-one has repaid the favour. It's time for them too. Golden Johnson is a C class fighter who fought better fighters than nearly all of Cintron's opponents(Margarito,Mosley,Leija etc). Heck even Margarito's left overs beat up on other fighters big names(Lujan KTFO Mathysse,one of the biggest names on Cintron and Williams resume)

Combining all those factors,and the fact that Zab Judah got a shot at Cotto coming off a ND,and a few losses,it's safe to say that people who say Margarito should get in line are talking nonsense. He deserves a shot more than anyone else. Anything else ??? ::** ::** ::**

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i think Margatito should take on Paul Williams again.
if he is so much better now then he should have no problem in beating Williams.
He has no right in my opinion challenging Cotto/Mayweather/Hatton until that happens.
or since Cintron also looks so much better than before, i think he should give Cintron a rematch.

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That's a bit silly to say he has no right to challenge them when he has been in the WW division far far longer than of all them.And I would not mind seeing him beat up on Cintron again,just because Kermit has been beating these c grade fighters and looking good whilst doing so,does not mean he will do better v Tony. PW was offered the immediate rematch and refused. Had Margarito not fought Williams,he would have fought Cotto,so he has just as much right as anyone else to ask to face either of those guys. They have all had thei shots at the bigtime,now it's his turn.

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you know what, you're right. i wouldn't mind seeing this fight.i 'm just saying that just because you have been in the division longer does not make you the king of it. It really doesn't mater you have to earn your shot!! and as of right now since Tony lost his title, all he has done is beat on Golden Johnson who by the way just like Cintron's opponents is a C class fighter as well ::** . So you say, you lose a fight , beat up a C class fighter and you get to fight Cotto or Mayweather?? i think you need to take those certain steps. fighting Cintron or Williams first, is taking those necessary steps to have a bigger fight against Cotto or Mayweather. regardless I'm all down to watch this fight if it happens.

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Cintron is getting a unification next year v Williams,that's his big shot. Margarito has beaten better fighters than both Cintron and Williams. In fact,aside form Mayweather,and Cotto,Tony has the best resume(assuming Shane is retired) so yes,he does deserve a shot. Margarito has also given Clottey,Williams and Cintron their shots at his title,no-one has repaid the favour. It's time for them too. Golden Johnson is a C class fighter who fought better fighters than nearly all of Cintron's opponents(Margarito,Mosley,Leija etc). Heck even Margarito's left overs beat up on other fighters big names(Lujan KTFO Mathysse,one of the biggest names on Cintron and Williams resume)

Combining all those factors,and the fact that Zab Judah got a shot at Cotto coming off a ND,and a few losses,it's safe to say that people who say Margarito should get in line are talking nonsense. He deserves a shot more than anyone else. Anything else ??? ::** ::** ::**

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I agree.

Tony is as deserving as anybody for a shot at Cotto. The winner of Hatton/Mayweather is the obvious first choice, and if Cintron beats Williams, a Cintron/Tony rematch is also an obvious choice. Cintron will come running to Tony looking to avenge his loss. And it's not like Tony got blown out by Williams. He lost, but he lost less decidedly than Judah lost to Baldy or Mayweather. If Mayweather wins and then plays his little games and ducks Cotto, Margarito is probably only the 2nd biggest fight Cotto can make. Here's the wildcard...Mayweather retires then even off a loss, Hatton is still be the biggest money fight out there for Cotto, and that would be, I think, an easier fight than Tony. If Hatton loses competitively to Mayweather and Mayweather won't fight Cotto, I won't blame Cotto if he chooses Hatton over Tony for his next fight, but that doesn't mean I don't think Margarito wouldn't be just as, if not more, deserving of the fight.

The bottom line for Tony is that he screwed himself over with that flat performance against Williams, whatever the reasons why. If he gets his big shot now, great for him, he certainly deserves it, but if he don't, he can't bitch too much because, he did, in fact, lose. I'm rooting for the guy, but it is what it is.

i think a fight between the winner of Hatton/Mayweather should happen first and foremost. Then maybe a fight with Margo, Williams or Cintron. i just don't think,that just because Tony won against Johnson that gives him the right to fight Cotto just yet. he let that opportunity slip by before and now he should have to wait for his time. which i think should be after Cotto takes on the winner of Hatton/Mayweather. By then he should get a fight with one of the other fighters in the division. No jumping straight to Cotto!!

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I don't really care to see a Mayweather fight,a Margarito would be far more exciting. And a Mayweather fight would be alot of hassle to make,I don't want Miguel wasting time trying to go after Floyd in negotiations like Tony did.

I have Cotto as the best WW right now from the fighters he's beaten at WW:Quintana,Urkal,Zab,and Shane compared to Baldo,Sharmba and Zab. I don't need a title(lineal,alphabet,whatever) to tell me Cotto is the best WW on the planet.

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Mayweather is better than Cotto. He's the best p4p fighter in the world when he's fighting at welterweight.

Cotto would beat that face in. believe that.