Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by Kel
Your not fighting for money anymore Joe, take the fight and give him another loss. Then deal with all the American fans claiming that Hopkins was old and you will wonder why you ever bothered. Or look for another fight and get called a coward. He can't win really can he?
I think he can win. Beat BHOP in the US, and do it for less money. That would wiin him massive respect from those who actually know a thing about the sweet science. BHOP is not too old he just beat Tarver and Winky.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by Kel
Your not fighting for money anymore Joe, take the fight and give him another loss. Then deal with all the American fans claiming that Hopkins was old and you will wonder why you ever bothered. Or look for another fight and get called a coward. He can't win really can he?
I think he can win. Beat BHOP in the US, and do it for less money.
That would wiin him massive respect from those who actually know a thing about the sweet science. BHOP is not too old he just beat Tarver and Winky.
He already has that ;)
If the Hopkins fight doesn't happen it's because of Hopkins. Think everyone knows that. If not, check out what happened when Calzgahe tried to fight him a few years back ;)
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
Hopkins wants the fight in his backyard and for the greater money. Knew he's talk himself out of a fight with Joe.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
Hopkins wants the fight in his backyard and for the greater money. Knew he's talk himself out of a fight with Joe.
If Joe really wants the fight just take Hopkins terms. That way BHOP either backs out and looks the chicken or Joe gets the fight he really wants. I mean big deal if he gets 40% its still heaps of money. I actually believe BHOP is playing mindgames and trying to show that he wont be bullied around by Warren like most of Joe's opponents are in negotiations. Joe can only win by agreeing to Hopkins terms.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
Hopkins wants the fight in his backyard and for the greater money. Knew he's talk himself out of a fight with Joe.
If Joe really wants the fight just take Hopkins terms. That way BHOP either backs out and looks the chicken or Joe gets the fight he really wants. I mean big deal if he gets 40% its still heaps of money. I actually believe BHOP is playing mindgames and trying to show that he wont be bullied around by Warren like most of Joe's opponents are in negotiations. Joe can only win by agreeing to Hopkins terms.
Its the principle. Joe has shown that he can bring in tons of fans and sell out fights just as much as Hopkins, maybe more and he is the undisputed champion of his division he shouldnt have to take a pay cut. Hopkins wouldnt do it for Jones and Calzaghe shouldnt for Hop.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
Personally, I think it would be worth it for Joe to swallow his pride and agree to the concessions, just so he can shut B-Hop's fat mouth.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
Hopkins is a 2 division champion. He's the bigger name. He should get the bigger pay. And like eagle said, 40% is still a couple of millions. Kessler agreed to all of Calzaghe's terms just to make the fight happen. Calzaghe should do the same. That is if Calzaghe and Warren really want the fight.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
Hopkins wants the fight in his backyard and for the greater money. Knew he's talk himself out of a fight with Joe.
If Joe really wants the fight just take Hopkins terms. That way BHOP either backs out and looks the chicken or Joe gets the fight he really wants. I mean big deal if he gets 40% its still heaps of money. I actually believe BHOP is playing mindgames and trying to show that he wont be bullied around by Warren like most of Joe's opponents are in negotiations. Joe can only win by agreeing to Hopkins terms.
Its the principle. Joe has shown that he can bring in tons of fans and sell out fights just as much as Hopkins, maybe more and he is the undisputed champion of his division he shouldnt have to take a pay cut. Hopkins wouldnt do it for Jones and Calzaghe shouldnt for Hop.
Stuff the principle, its the fight that matters. In 20 years time no one will know what the fighters were paid, they'll just know who won and who lost. Kessler took all Joe's terms, in fact everyone who Joes has ever fought has taken his terms, so it wont hurt for a role reversal. The fight is for Bhops 175 belt, he is the champ so the terms should be his.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hopkins is a 2 division champion. He's the bigger name. He should get the bigger pay. And like eagle said, 40% is still a couple of millions. Kessler agreed to all of Calzaghe's terms just to make the fight happen. Calzaghe should do the same. That is if Calzaghe and Warren really want the fight.
VD do you realise kessler was paid just shot of £3 million pounds? Id be suprised if he got anything above £800k before, so Kessler just set himself up for life for that fight with Joe. So thats a load of bollocks if Joe was to paid anywhere near triple his biggest payday he probably would swim there.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
Exactly what I expected.
Wright took basically the same type of deal to face Hopkins.
Joe should too. Joe already said that no matter what...they would take the fight on Bernard's terms.
I hate to say this...but take them terms Joe. Get it signed & then beat his ass...or don't...what ever you can do...do it.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hopkins is a 2 division champion. He's the bigger name. He should get the bigger pay. And like eagle said, 40% is still a couple of millions. Kessler agreed to all of Calzaghe's terms just to make the fight happen. Calzaghe should do the same. That is if Calzaghe and Warren really want the fight.
VD do you realise kessler was paid just shot of £3 million pounds? Id be suprised if he got anything above £800k before, so Kessler just set himself up for life for that fight with Joe. So thats a load of bollocks if Joe was to paid anywhere near triple his biggest payday he probably would swim there.
Rather he gets 40% or 50% or whatever. Calzaghe will be paid handsomely for a Hopkins fight. So don't make it seem like he's going to starve. Cuz he's not. Bottom line is Calzaghe needs Hopkins more than Hopkins needs him.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hopkins is a 2 division champion. He's the bigger name. He should get the bigger pay. And like eagle said, 40% is still a couple of millions. Kessler agreed to all of Calzaghe's terms just to make the fight happen. Calzaghe should do the same. That is if Calzaghe and Warren really want the fight.
VD do you realise kessler was paid just shot of £3 million pounds? Id be suprised if he got anything above £800k before, so Kessler just set himself up for life for that fight with Joe. So thats a load of bollocks if Joe was to paid anywhere near triple his biggest payday he probably would swim there.
The point is Joe should not worry about the money. Just call the bluff.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hopkins is a 2 division champion. He's the bigger name. He should get the bigger pay. And like eagle said, 40% is still a couple of millions. Kessler agreed to all of Calzaghe's terms just to make the fight happen. Calzaghe should do the same. That is if Calzaghe and Warren really want the fight.
VD do you realise kessler was paid just shot of £3 million pounds? Id be suprised if he got anything above £800k before, so Kessler just set himself up for life for that fight with Joe. So thats a load of bollocks if Joe was to paid anywhere near triple his biggest payday he probably would swim there.
The point is Joe should not worry about the money. Just call the bluff.
Well not really VD was saying Kessler bowed to all Warrens and Joes demands but he forgot to add Kessler also got at leats 3 times his biggest payday, sort of relevant in the terms of the deal.
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hopkins is a 2 division champion. He's the bigger name. He should get the bigger pay. And like eagle said, 40% is still a couple of millions. Kessler agreed to all of Calzaghe's terms just to make the fight happen. Calzaghe should do the same. That is if Calzaghe and Warren really want the fight.
VD do you realise kessler was paid just shot of £3 million pounds? Id be suprised if he got anything above £800k before, so Kessler just set himself up for life for that fight with Joe. So thats a load of bollocks if Joe was to paid anywhere near triple his biggest payday he probably would swim there.
The point is Joe should not worry about the money. Just call the bluff.
Well not really VD was saying Kessler bowed to all Warrens and Joes demands but he forgot to add Kessler also got at leats 3 times his biggest payday, sort of relevant in the terms of the deal.
But Joe got more right? Tho Kessler had more belts....
Re: Hopkins wants 60-40 split in Calzaghe fight
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by eagle
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hopkins is a 2 division champion. He's the bigger name. He should get the bigger pay. And like eagle said, 40% is still a couple of millions. Kessler agreed to all of Calzaghe's terms just to make the fight happen. Calzaghe should do the same. That is if Calzaghe and Warren really want the fight.
VD do you realise kessler was paid just shot of £3 million pounds? Id be suprised if he got anything above £800k before, so Kessler just set himself up for life for that fight with Joe. So thats a load of bollocks if Joe was to paid anywhere near triple his biggest payday he probably would swim there.
The point is Joe should not worry about the money. Just call the bluff.
Well not really VD was saying Kessler bowed to all Warrens and Joes demands but he forgot to add Kessler also got at leats 3 times his biggest payday, sort of relevant in the terms of the deal.
You make it seem like Calzaghe would get chump change for a Hopkins fight. He won't. He'll get millions. Make the fight.
