Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.
People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...
He dosent belongs in the top 20 ,not even in top 50
Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.
People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...
He dosent belongs in the top 20 ,not even in top 50
Sorry but thats just a stupid statement. Honestly, if you can name 50 Super-Middles who actually have a better record and are more accomplished than Manfredo then I'd be surprised. If you don't like the guy, fair enough...but thats just a hater comment.
Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.
People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...
He dosent belongs in the top 20 ,not even in top 50
Sorry but thats just a stupid statement. Honestly, if you can name 50 Super-Middles who actually have a better record and are more accomplished than Manfredo then I'd be surprised. If you don't like the guy, fair enough...but thats just a hater comment.
Do you think i woulding care to post 50 fighter,but i can give you a few one ,whom better than womanfredo
Librado Andrade
Alejandro Berrio
Allan Green
Robert Stieglitz
Jean Pascal
Sam Soliman
Jean Paul Mendy
Cristian Sanavia
Mads Larsen
Robin Reid
Jackson Chanet
Lolenga Mock
Mario Veit
Anthony Hanshaw
Danilo Haussler
Paul Smith
Yusaf Mack
Antwun Echols
Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.
People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...
He dosent belongs in the top 20 ,not even in top 50
Sorry but thats just a stupid statement. Honestly, if you can name 50 Super-Middles who actually have a better record and are more accomplished than Manfredo then I'd be surprised. If you don't like the guy, fair enough...but thats just a hater comment.
Do you think i woulding care to post 50 fighter,but i can give you a few one ,whom better than womanfredo
Librado Andrade
Alejandro Berrio
Allan Green
Robert Stieglitz
Jean Pascal
Sam Soliman
Jean Paul Mendy
Cristian Sanavia
Mads Larsen
Robin Reid
Jackson Chanet
Lolenga Mock
Mario Veit
Anthony Hanshaw
Danilo Haussler
Paul Smith
Yusaf Mack
Antwun Echols
Wow, nice cool click to sad click ratio... Must be because of your gratuitous knowlege of the fight game... We had stated that manfredo belonged in the top 20... you said the top 50 and then proceeded to name only 18 men who you believe belong in front of him. Hmmmm... My math may be off but that looks like you'd have him at 19...
Good job!
Go finger paint, kid!
Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.
People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...
He dosent belongs in the top 20 ,not even in top 50
Sorry but thats just a stupid statement. Honestly, if you can name 50 Super-Middles who actually have a better record and are more accomplished than Manfredo then I'd be surprised. If you don't like the guy, fair enough...but thats just a hater comment.
Do you think i woulding care to post 50 fighter,but i can give you a few one ,whom better than womanfredo
Librado Andrade
Alejandro Berrio
Allan Green
Robert Stieglitz
Jean Pascal
Sam Soliman
Jean Paul Mendy
Cristian Sanavia
Mads Larsen
Robin Reid
Jackson Chanet
Lolenga Mock
Mario Veit
Anthony Hanshaw
Danilo Haussler
Paul Smith
Yusaf Mack
Antwun Echols
Robin Reid has retired and even if he wasn't he's nowhere near that level. If you think Echols is better, you must be taking the piss. I think he'd beat Allan Green and he's on the level of Stieglitz, Hanshaw.
Calzaghe, Kessler, Andrade, Bute, Froch, Inkin, Zuniga, Miranda, Smith, Bika, Berrio, Mack & Mundine are the divisions quality.
You're making him out to be worse than he is. POB is his biggest fan on here, but he'd be the first to admit that Manfredo isn't world class. He's an average fighter, but I'd hardly say he was shit.
Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.
People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...
He dosent belongs in the top 20 ,not even in top 50
Sorry but thats just a stupid statement. Honestly, if you can name 50 Super-Middles who actually have a better record and are more accomplished than Manfredo then I'd be surprised. If you don't like the guy, fair enough...but thats just a hater comment.
Do you think i woulding care to post 50 fighter,but i can give you a few one ,whom better than womanfredo
Librado Andrade
Alejandro Berrio
Allan Green
Robert Stieglitz
Jean Pascal
Sam Soliman
Jean Paul Mendy
Cristian Sanavia
Mads Larsen
Robin Reid
Jackson Chanet
Lolenga Mock
Mario Veit
Anthony Hanshaw
Danilo Haussler
Paul Smith
Yusaf Mack
Antwun Echols
Robin Reid has retired and even if he wasn't he's nowhere near that level. If you think Echols is better, you must be taking the piss. I think he'd beat Allan Green and he's on the level of Stieglitz, Hanshaw.
Calzaghe, Kessler, Andrade, Bute, Froch, Inkin, Zuniga, Miranda, Smith, Bika, Berrio, Mack & Mundine are the divisions quality.
You're making him out to be worse than he is. POB is his biggest fan on here, but he'd be the first to admit that Manfredo isn't world class. He's an average fighter, but I'd hardly say he was shit.
I appreciate it bzkfn but he'll prove it for himself. and you're right, I would not put him in the world class picture. You'd have to be an idiot to do so. guys like Kess and Joe would(has) murder him. But to say he's a shit fighter is just incorrect.
Look, I'm not a rediculous fanboy. I'll call a spade a spade. Manfredo is a B fighter who needs to work on things. I hope he hasn't peaked yet cuz I've enjoyed his improvments with Roach. He's done well for him self. Yes he got the title shot cuz of the show. No he did not deserve it. But he was Ranked in the top 15 @ Jr middle years before the show so lets be real and stop bashing for the sake of bashing, jangeorg!
Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.
People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...
He dosent belongs in the top 20 ,not even in top 50
Sorry but thats just a stupid statement. Honestly, if you can name 50 Super-Middles who actually have a better record and are more accomplished than Manfredo then I'd be surprised. If you don't like the guy, fair enough...but thats just a hater comment.
Do you think i woulding care to post 50 fighter,but i can give you a few one ,whom better than womanfredo
Librado Andrade
Alejandro Berrio
Allan Green
Robert Stieglitz
Jean Pascal
Sam Soliman
Jean Paul Mendy
Cristian Sanavia
Mads Larsen
Robin Reid
Jackson Chanet
Lolenga Mock
Mario Veit
Anthony Hanshaw
Danilo Haussler
Paul Smith
Yusaf Mack
Antwun Echols
Robin Reid has retired and even if he wasn't he's nowhere near that level. If you think Echols is better, you must be taking the piss. I think he'd beat Allan Green and he's on the level of Stieglitz, Hanshaw.
Calzaghe, Kessler, Andrade, Bute, Froch, Inkin, Zuniga, Miranda, Smith, Bika, Berrio, Mack & Mundine are the divisions quality.
You're making him out to be worse than he is. POB is his biggest fan on here, but he'd be the first to admit that Manfredo isn't world class. He's an average fighter, but I'd hardly say he was S***.
I appreciate it bzkfn but he'll prove it for himself. and you're right, I would not put him in the world class picture. You'd have to be an idiot to do so. guys like Kess and Joe would(has) murder him. But to say he's a S*** fighter is just incorrect.
Look, I'm not a rediculous fanboy. I'll call a spade a spade. Manfredo is a B fighter who needs to work on things. I hope he hasn't peaked yet cuz I've enjoyed his improvments with Roach. He's done well for him self. Yes he got the title shot cuz of the show. No he did not deserve it. But he was Ranked in the top 15 @ Jr middle years before the show so lets be real and stop bashing for the sake of bashing, jangeorg!
:coolclick: #274. I agree. Jangeorg basically said 50 fighters just as a way of bashing him. I'd bet good money that he's seen 2 of his fights and had to look on boxrec to find some of those fighters he listed.
Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
If Manfredo tucks in his defence, works off the jab and just boxes, he'll take Lacy by decision. Lacy is one dimensional and plods forward. I think Pete should just pick his punches and cover up. I'm going for Manfredo by decision. He's nothing special, but he's better than most on Saddo's are willing to give him credit for.
People don't even think he belongs in the top 20 which is crazy...
He dosent belongs in the top 20 ,not even in top 50
Sorry but thats just a stupid statement. Honestly, if you can name 50 Super-Middles who actually have a better record and are more accomplished than Manfredo then I'd be surprised. If you don't like the guy, fair enough...but thats just a hater comment.
Do you think i woulding care to post 50 fighter,but i can give you a few one ,whom better than womanfredo
Librado Andrade
Alejandro Berrio
Allan Green
Robert Stieglitz
Jean Pascal
Sam Soliman
Jean Paul Mendy
Cristian Sanavia
Mads Larsen
Robin Reid
Jackson Chanet
Lolenga Mock
Mario Veit
Anthony Hanshaw
Danilo Haussler
Paul Smith
Yusaf Mack
Antwun Echols
Robin Reid has retired and even if he wasn't he's nowhere near that level. If you think Echols is better, you must be taking the piss. I think he'd beat Allan Green and he's on the level of Stieglitz, Hanshaw.
Calzaghe, Kessler, Andrade, Bute, Froch, Inkin, Zuniga, Miranda, Smith, Bika, Berrio, Mack & Mundine are the divisions quality.
You're making him out to be worse than he is. POB is his biggest fan on here, but he'd be the first to admit that Manfredo isn't world class. He's an average fighter, but I'd hardly say he was S***.
I appreciate it bzkfn but he'll prove it for himself. and you're right, I would not put him in the world class picture. You'd have to be an idiot to do so. guys like Kess and Joe would(has) murder him. But to say he's a S*** fighter is just incorrect.
Look, I'm not a rediculous fanboy. I'll call a spade a spade. Manfredo is a B fighter who needs to work on things. I hope he hasn't peaked yet cuz I've enjoyed his improvments with Roach. He's done well for him self. Yes he got the title shot cuz of the show. No he did not deserve it. But he was Ranked in the top 15 @ Jr middle years before the show so lets be real and stop bashing for the sake of bashing, jangeorg!
:coolclick: #274. I agree. Jangeorg basically said 50 fighters just as a way of bashing him. I'd bet good money that he's seen 2 of his fights and had to look on boxrec to find some of those fighters he listed.
Gotcha with a CC earlier! ;D
Very true! Whatever, people are gonna think what they're gonna think. I understand alot of the disdane. Peter did virtually nothing in this div to even earn close to a title shot. There are guys like Kess who had to wait in like behind the likes of manfredo... I understand why people feel the way they do. Thats why he has to earn it. A good showing against Lacy will put him in the top ten. How well will he do? Only time and Freddy Roach will tell but his style has room for growth. Thats why I like him so much.
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Jageorg is just grumpy because his boy Kessler lost and that "bum" Lacy is on the comeback trail meaning he could overtake Kessler,so Jan is trying to demean anyone Jeff fights. ;D
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Jageorg is just grumpy because his boy Kessler lost and that "bum" Lacy is on the comeback trail meaning he could overtake Kessler,so Jan is trying to demean anyone Jeff fights. ;D
Ah, I see ;D
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Jageorg is just grumpy because his boy Kessler lost and that "bum" Lacy is on the comeback trail meaning he could overtake Kessler,so Jan is trying to demean anyone Jeff fights. ;D
Ah, I see ;D
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Re: Manfredo's/Lacy's stock after their fight...
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2 Good wins ??????????
Ted Muller was 19-10-2
Dave Banks was 14.1.1 and then lost his next fight after Manfredo !!!
People think Manfredo is a WORLD contender ? no im sorry i dont buy it.
Lacy wins by stoppage inside 6 even with i arm for me :)
What I meant was while Lacy has been out after having a rough time in his comeback fight and then having surgery, Manfredo has had 2 good fights, fights where he unlike Lacy has shown no signs of being shot, hes kept himself busy and sharp while Lacy has searched for an easy name to comeback against again, Manfredo will outhustle Lacy and I can see Lacy retiring, I dont think his hearts in boxing after the Calzaghe fight. He had garry Shaw filling his head with bullshit about how awesome he was and he fed off it, now he has come back down to earth with a thud, I dont think he has it in him to work his way back, or to iron out his faults and as crap as Manfredo might be I think hes durable and enough of a boxer to take advantage of Lacys situation right now
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Manfredo lost to a welterweight in the contender. If lacy cant stop him in 6 rounds then lacy should hang up his gloves.
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Manfredo lost to a welterweight in the contender. If lacy cant stop him in 6 rounds then lacy should hang up his gloves.
this is true...
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Manfredo lost to a welterweight in the contender. If lacy cant stop him in 6 rounds then lacy should hang up his gloves.
Lol, no doubt. If he can't get this guy gone then he should hang himself with his gloves. So if Pete wins, then what? Will he get a piece of Miranda or Andrade?