Sastics when considering the outcomes to Hagler vs Jones fight

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Hey may of started out at Welter but he was 6'1 and he grew in to his body the higher he went up and still carried power.

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Yes but he wasn't a monstor like Baller.

And i would not be talking VD after you would not admit that Cass fight last week was a robbery i do not care to much for what you have to say either. I mean a lot of what you say is just to get people going and most of the fighters you pick to win most of the time lose but o well just keep making your smart ass comments like you do i guess i just take it for what it is complete bull shit have a nice day Violent Demise.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

And i would not be talking VD after you would not admit that Cass fight last week was a robbery i do not care to much for what you have to say either. I mean a lot of what you say is just to get people going and most of the fighters you pick to win most of the time lose but o well just keep making your smart a** comments like you do i guess i just take it for what it is complete bull S*** have a nice day Violent Demise.

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And were off ;D

As much as I like Hagler, he wasnt at his best with movers. Jones would give him problems, big ones.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

The combine records of the opposition when they fought them in title fights if they fought them more then once i counted it like they were two people. For Hagler 687-55-11 and for Jones 809-56-13 those are the numbers for that and hear come some more.
Title fights they were in and the results of them Hagler 15 title fights record 13-1-1 and Jones 25 record 21-4.
Most notable wins for both men Hagler's were Duran and Hearns and Jones is Tony and Bernard.
Now numbers are not always the best way to look at things but it helps. When you consider a fight you consider the follow who they beat, how they beat them, were there were in they career when they beat them, size, height, reach, chin, conditioning, heart and also speed and power thats all i got so far. Reason Haggler would when had a chin that was made a titanium, had great power, was relentless and in prime was a god.
Reason for Jones winning was great speed, reflexes, power and also a god in his prime.
So there is some things that you can consider win thinking about fights and need some extra info there you go got some.
Yes Cut i want them separate if you do not mind i want people to read it that way and for everyone i pick Hagler but Jones is a good choice as well.

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Roy's footwork, and power would give Hagler fits.. I absolutely don't believe he would win. Hagler could make it close, but Leonard was giving him some troubles, and Leonard's punches wouldn't move him like Roy's would, and though I am not sure if Roy can take him out, the punches he makes any fighter respect him(including James Toney), also Roy's reflexes are unlike anything we've ever seen so Hagler would be getting hit by counters when against anyone else in any point of history would not be able to hit him. Also People are saying Roy has a bad chin, but he didn't early in his career, James Toney who I would consider close to Hagler in punching power manage to counter him a few times cleanly, and Roy took it fine, even at light heavyweight before he came back down he was taking punches from guys who were naturally over 200 pounds without problems. Why would Hagler be able to counter Roy when a better counter puncher and boxer like Toney couldn't? Sure Hagler would beat the Roy that fought HOpkins, but he was really young and green thats not fair. Have them fight at 164 when right after Roy fought Toney, and he would win for sure, though I think Hagler could potentially make it a difficult fight, I believe Roy makes him look relatively silly.

You make good points and thanks for your input taeth would love to see the fight so we could see.