Re: Hatton - keys to possible victory.
Not to use his Jab just show it.
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Not to use his Jab just show it.
Oscar did okay at that. Juda too.
Eventually they both ended up using imaginary nunchucks ::**
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Not to use his Jab just show it.
Oscar did okay at that. Juda too.
Eventually they both ended up using imaginary nunchucks ::**
LOL. The only way Hatton wins this is if EA Sports puts this on a videogame ;D
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gotta admit, thats a good one. ;D
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gotta admit, thats a good one. ;D
Thanks BD, I'm just funning with Lefty Lee trying to get him to take the bait ;D
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Pressure, pressure, pressure. He can't let Floyd breathe for one second during this fight, and he can't let Floyd decide to dictate where this fight goes and when it happens. Either way Hatton is going to get punched, and he can't complicate matters by letting Floyd slip off the ropes if he can get him there, as he'll have to chase Floyd while getting pot shotted. Pressure and an effective body attack. That's all Ricky has to offer and if he doesn't make it work somehow someway he's doomed. He'll get beaten silly on the outside and it will be deja-vu for Gatti fans as that will be what it will look like. All this talk about Hatton having good footwork and hitting from angles; please, like Floyd hasn't fought better boxers than Ricky and Floyd has better both than Hatton. For Hatton to win he has to do it by the 6th round or people might as well turn the t.v. off, unless you're just a fan of watching CSI. Don't forget, Floyd never tires, and no mistake about it, he'll let Ricky run himself ragged while trying to find a home for that left hook to the body, or one of those silly lunging punches Ricky throws. No way will Ricky win a decision, lol. In America? With Floyd; who only gets better as the fight progresses? ::** Ricky has to cripple that body or he'll get beat worse than Paul Bostaph's drum kit :D Bring it on Lefty{laughingstock}Lee ;D
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I think you are wrong to dismiss Ricky's strengths with footwork, footspeed, and angles, especially angles when hooking to the body and fighting inside. I'm not sure that Floyd has faced a guy who throws to the body from the angles that Ricky throws. If Ricky has enough footspeed and movement to get inside, those angles will give Ricky a CHANCE to hurt Floyd to the body. Castillo throws to the body, but I think Ricky has better inside footwork to get clean shots to the body, especially the liver and the kidneys (yes, I know kidney shots are illegal, but they happen). Without the inside footwork to create better punching opening, Floyd will just deflect the body shots like he did against Oscar and to a degree Castillo.
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What Hatton needs to do is plant his head just right so that Mayweather's fist always hits him in the forhead, it will open him up to uppercuts, but if he gets Mayweather's hand broken it will be much easier to put pressure on him because the counter rights won't be as hard.
I think you are on to something with that. Use the hard part of the head to block and deflect and hope to break a hand. He wouldn't be the first, and it would make the fight more winable for Hatton if Floyd breaks a paw.
I think you are wrong to dismiss Ricky's strengths with footwork, footspeed, and angles, especially angles when hooking to the body and fighting inside.
Yes that is correct but for Hatton to do all his best work he needs to stay on the inside Mayweather will not allow Hatton to get close enough to use angles on the inside.
I'm not sure that Floyd has faced a guy who throws to the body from the angles that Ricky throws.
Maybe so but Mayweather has fought plenty of swarmer's before so Mayweather knows what to expect Hatton has only fought one fast fighter in his career so this is new territory for Hatton stylistic wise.
You are 100% correct that Hatton does his best work inside, and you may be right the Floyd won't let him get inside, but that question is still up for debate. Hatton has quicker feet and better balance than many of the swarmers Floyd has fought. I think there is a chance Ricky can cut off the ring and work is way inside enough to be effective, at least at times. I'm convinced he'll be able to win some early rounds, if only on workrate, but as Floyds accurate shots continue to land (and only a fool would doubt that Floyd will make Ricky pay for trying to get inside), Ricky might lose the ability and/or will to get himself into punching position. If Ricky can't hurt and slow down Floyd with early body work, Rick can't win. Oscar, with slower feet, was able to get off to the body, but that never really hurt Floyd because he wasn't able get angles. If Ricky gets angles and do real damage, he'll give himself a chance.
Style-wise, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see Ricky up against Floyd's speed...you are right he doesn't have so much experience against Floyd's style.
Don't get me wrong, I still think Mayweather will win, but Ricky is a pretty unique fighter and he will put Floyd to a pretty good test.
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Hatton needs to apply the same pressure that Castillo put on Floyd, maybe even more.
Hatton needs to continue on with his "bread and butter," the body attack.
One thing I don't hear people mention is that Ricky is an exceptional lunging puncher. Floyd backs up and raises his hands when he sees his opponent set his feet and cocks their arm. And the result is, Floyd NEARLY gets hit but gets out of the way EVERYTIME! With Hatton's ability in lunging and punching, we may finally see Floyd get hit!
Other than those three things on my mind, Ricky has to be on top of his game and Floyd can't be on his. When Mayweather is "in the zone," no one can touch him.
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2. He must employ a cross armed defence up close as i feel Floyd will pot shot with uppercuts inside.
Although this is so not going to happen, you are spot on.
Actually that's incorrect Larry Holmes once told me if you do cross arm defense on inside you are going to get alot of black eyes from uppercuts.
Actually son that's a well known fact that the cross armed defence is a good antidote for the uppercut on the inside !!!!!!!! doesn't always work but generally does. A few black lumps and bumps and a win , are better than having your head taken off by Floyd's counters , SEE MY POINT ????????
When did Larry Holmes "ONCE" tell you this? when u were in kindergarden ?? lol :Sarcasm:
Here you go.
THE CROSS OVER DEFENSE IS NOT THE BEST SINCE YOU LEAVE YOUR UPPER HEAD OPEN AND EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN WHEN YOU DROP YOUR ARMS. YOU ARE OPEN FOR UPPERCUTS AND MORE BLACK EYES.
it may confuse them but after a while your opponnet will see you open up and shot some uppercuts and head shots. A good fighter will adapt to the fight. you don't fight fighters you fight styles.
Thats a quote from Larry Holmes himself.
http://larryholmes.com/message_board...ighlight=#2330
YES BUT I THINK WITH RICKY'S SIDE TO SIDE HEAD MOVEMENT AND APPLYING THE CROSS ARMED DEFENCE AGAINEST MAYWEATHER will work on the inside.
as for the Larry Holmes QUOTE how on earth can that apply to every fight ? with 2 different fighters ? different divisions ? ............im talking only about THIS FIGHT Hatton Mayweather and my opinion on wot will work , anyway u may not have realised Larry Holmes GREAT fighter that he was , was a trash talker who said alot of BULLSHIT things :)
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But if you watch fights closely the cross arm defense isn't good on inside because you actually do get hit with uppercuts plus Hatton would have to be leaning Mayweather's chest and have to be shoulder to shoulder with Mayweather and because Mayweather is turned to the side at all times the cross arm defense just wouldn't work in this case.
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But if you watch fights closely the cross arm defense isn't good on inside because you actually do get hit with uppercuts plus Hatton would have to be leaning Mayweather's chest and have to be shoulder to shoulder with Mayweather and because Mayweather is turned to the side at all times the cross arm defense just wouldn't work in this case.
ok sweetpea we disagree but we will have to see how the fight unfolds :)
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Mark my works, Hatton will be right there for PBFs left elbow all night. If Hatton isn't bleeding on his right cheek by the 4th round I will be shocked.
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Oh this is easy...
... Cut off the ring. Simple. Hatton already knows the rest. But he should spar with cutting off the ring in mind. That's it. The rest is just "Be Ricky." But first he must get there, and to do that he must cut off the ring.
Just read that Hatton agrees with me. "Footwork" is key. He has to get there. :)
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Mark my works, Hatton will be right there for PBFs left elbow all night. If Hatton isn't bleeding on his right cheek by the 4th round I will be shocked.
I think it'll be more or the forearm if anything. He'll leave it in after those left hooks from range.
I dunno if that will cause cuts ???
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It's actually likely that Mayweather may cut also, the style of Hatton means his head and brow will be shoved into Mayweathers eyelevel and with Floyds spin off movement we may see abrasion and perhaps a cut on the pretty boys face.
That mnay be wishful thinking from a HATTON FAN, BUT IM INTERESTED TO SEE HOW fLOYD WOULD REACT TO A CUT.
