Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
If I remember right Williams looked a bit lathargic in hid fight against Pakau, he started slapping his punches and was getting tagged by Pakau.
In Williams destruction of Sharmba he was also tagged several times and even stunned by Sharmba. Because Williams had trouble with those 2, I thought Margarito would blast him out. Boy how wrong I was to judge Williams by some trouble he has in his 2 previous fights prior to Margarito.
A boxer can have a game fighter in front of him despite his record or what people said prior to the fight come fight night that fighter can be imune to pain and or anything his opponent throws at him even if the boxer happens to be 28-1 with 26 KO's.
Williams didn't look great in those matches i agree but his stock sky rocketed because of his impressive win against one of the most feared Welterweights out there.
Totally different to Cintron who struggled in a tune up fight.
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
If I remember right Williams looked a bit lathargic in hid fight against Pakau, he started slapping his punches and was getting tagged by Pakau.
In Williams destruction of Sharmba he was also tagged several times and even stunned by Sharmba. Because Williams had trouble with those 2, I thought Margarito would blast him out. Boy how wrong I was to judge Williams by some trouble he has in his 2 previous fights prior to Margarito.
A boxer can have a game fighter in front of him despite his record or what people said prior to the fight come fight night that fighter can be imune to pain and or anything his opponent throws at him even if the boxer happens to be 28-1 with 26 KO's.
You speak the truth mick. the right oppoent comes in with the conditioning, chin and mindset, hell bent on kicking your ass. you gonna need that A game to get through it , no question, you can throw the records out the window. :D
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
If I remember right Williams looked a bit lathargic in hid fight against Pakau, he started slapping his punches and was getting tagged by Pakau.
In Williams destruction of Sharmba he was also tagged several times and even stunned by Sharmba. Because Williams had trouble with those 2, I thought Margarito would blast him out. Boy how wrong I was to judge Williams by some trouble he has in his 2 previous fights prior to Margarito.
A boxer can have a game fighter in front of him despite his record or what people said prior to the fight come fight night that fighter can be imune to pain and or anything his opponent throws at him even if the boxer happens to be 28-1 with 26 KO's.
Williams didn't look great in those matches i agree but his stock sky rocketed because of his impressive win against one of the most feared Welterweights out there.
Totally different to Cintron who struggled in a tune up fight.
You missed my point.
My point was that Williams struggled with 2 guys.
Cintron struggled with Jesse and your saying he will loose because of that performance.
Whos to say Cintron struggles with Jesse but beats Williams?
I'm saying that your making it seem like the struggle Cintron had with Jesse was enough to diminish him and not merit him maybe the benefit of the doubt that he had an off night or something.
All in all, I don't think his stock dropped. His performace could have been better but he still got the TKO win and the W in the end that's what matters.
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
If I remember right Williams looked a bit lathargic in hid fight against Pakau, he started slapping his punches and was getting tagged by Pakau.
In Williams destruction of Sharmba he was also tagged several times and even stunned by Sharmba. Because Williams had trouble with those 2, I thought Margarito would blast him out. Boy how wrong I was to judge Williams by some trouble he has in his 2 previous fights prior to Margarito.
A boxer can have a game fighter in front of him despite his record or what people said prior to the fight come fight night that fighter can be imune to pain and or anything his opponent throws at him even if the boxer happens to be 28-1 with 26 KO's.
Williams didn't look great in those matches i agree but his stock sky rocketed because of his impressive win against one of the most feared Welterweights out there.
Totally different to Cintron who struggled in a tune up fight.
You missed my point.
My point was that Williams struggled with 2 guys.
Cintron struggled with Jesse and your saying he will loose because of that performance.
Whos to say Cintron struggles with Jesse but beats Williams?
I'm saying that your making it seem like the struggle Cintron had with Jesse was enough to diminish him and not merit him maybe the benefit of the doubt that he had an off night or something.
All in all, I don't think his stock dropped. His performace could have been better but he still got the TKO win and the W in the end that's what matters.
Thats your opinion but until Cintron has another impressive win his stock has dropped quite alot imo. But maybe im only small number of people who feel that way ?? i don't know but thats my opinion on the situation anyway.
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
There aint nobody laced them up who won all his or her matches impressive. it don’t work that way . Comes a time you gonna get the flu, hurt the hand, bad back, ankle , or flat out get shook up from a shot you didnt expect. its times like these, you thankful for the win ! unless a pattern develops, it is a huge mistake to assume the worst of someone on one moderate performance.
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
If I remember right Williams looked a bit lathargic in hid fight against Pakau, he started slapping his punches and was getting tagged by Pakau.
In Williams destruction of Sharmba he was also tagged several times and even stunned by Sharmba. Because Williams had trouble with those 2, I thought Margarito would blast him out. Boy how wrong I was to judge Williams by some trouble he has in his 2 previous fights prior to Margarito.
A boxer can have a game fighter in front of him despite his record or what people said prior to the fight come fight night that fighter can be imune to pain and or anything his opponent throws at him even if the boxer happens to be 28-1 with 26 KO's.
You speak the truth mick. the right oppoent comes in with the conditioning, chin and mindset, hell bent on kicking your ass. you gonna need that A game to get through it , no question, you can throw the records out the window. :D
Spot on LG...
When a fighter is given the opp. to fight for a title and hes on a good wining roll coming off a very good KO win and as you said proper training, conditioned, chin and the mind set of a warrior that wont give up forget it you might as well grab the stool and hit 'em with that. ;D
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
Well i do not think that Cintron has gone any were in his tock he has pretty much stayed at the same level pretty much.
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
I'm shocked more people arnt saying Margarito... he was the most feared man in boxing last year, or definatly one of them, and now he is just a welter weight contender... i'm not saying he is any worse of a fighter than he was last year but his stock has plummeted..
Barrera... started the year top 6-7 P4P, now probably not in top 30
Mormeck...
R. Marquez..started on Floyd and Pacs level, now top 7-10 P4P
Casamayor...
Vic D..
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
Mick's "homeboy" Pongsaklek Wonjongkam stock went way down by losing to the very underrated Daisuke Naito
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Mick's "homeboy" Pongsaklek Wonjongkam stock went way down by losing to the very underrated Daisuke Naito
Was his stock ever that high?
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Mick's "homeboy" Pongsaklek Wonjongkam stock went way down by losing to the very underrated Daisuke Naito
Phuck! that punk ass bitch!
That muthaphucker never had stock and punk ass Jose to for letthing his ass get away with that shit. >:mad
How about Dunne, his stock certainly dropped.
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Mick's "homeboy" Pongsaklek Wonjongkam stock went way down by losing to the very underrated Daisuke Naito
Phuck! that punk ass bitch!
That muthaphucker never had stock and punk ass Jose to for letthing his ass get away with that shit. >:mad
How about Dunne, his stock certainly dropped.
Dunne was one whose stocked I enjoyed watching drop
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Rey Bautista ??
Good one. De Leon turned him into Bumtista
Re: Who's stock went down the most this year?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Rey Bautista ??
Good one. De Leon turned him into Bumtista
Yep. Thats right, and I was there to see it LIVE Ringside for my first live fight. It was fukin awesome!!! 8)
