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Well he turned millions down to fight him 5 years ago...
And now his trainer is saying that b hop should fight the winner of roy and tito
So he should fight either a guy he beat easy years ago that is semi retired or a guy that is shot that has been knocked out twice in the last few years...
Calzaghe is quicker,younger,throws more punches..
b hop would lose and he knows it..
No he doesnt,I really wish Hop would retire he's an old man,but he has no quit and certainly no run.
Man talk about having a bias?
Theres no way Bernard agrees to the unification tournament,and theres certainly no way he beats Tito.
Guess what happened?
Well theres no way he'll ever agree to fight Taylor
Ok he fought Taylor twice,but theres no way he can go up in weight against Tarver
Ok he won that one but theres no way he can beat a defensive technician like Wright
Its getting very old
Warren allways try to strong arm people to make sure it happens in the back yard. Hopkins isnt going to be dictated to. Kessler let himself be dictated to,that turned out great for him
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I dont like Frank Warren and i think Joe should fight B hop in America,even tho b hop cant draw flies to shit and a fight in wales would bring 60 thousand....,but I would like to c joe go to America and beat him..but b hop dont want the fight,he didnt want it a few years ago and dont want it now....
Re: Fighters we love to hate no matter how good they are...
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Originally Posted by fin
I dont like Frank Warren and i think Joe should fight B hop in America,even tho b hop cant draw flies to S*** and a fight in wales would bring 60 thousand....,but I would like to c joe go to America and beat him..but b hop dont want the fight,he didnt want it a few years ago and dont want it now....
Why cant you guys ever understand how boxing works,where the money really is,and that the US isnt like Isles
Do you have any idea what one guy like say Trump,will drop on the table in a Casino in Vegas
Here,Ill explain,its alot more money then 10,000 of those punters would have paid right there
And thats one guy
Now picture 3000 of that level of high roller
On top of that,Calzaghe would have a better chance of getting a decision in say,Boston,then Hopkins.
In the states we have no WW2 to create a feeling of we're all in this together. We hate eachother in the states like Liverpool and Manchester,but with higher caliber weapons
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I dont like Frank Warren and i think Joe should fight B hop in America,even tho b hop cant draw flies to S*** and a fight in wales would bring 60 thousand....,but I would like to c joe go to America and beat him..but b hop dont want the fight,he didnt want it a few years ago and dont want it now....
Why cant you guys ever understand how boxing works,where the money really is,and that the US isnt like Isles
Do you have any idea what one guy like say Trump,will drop on the table in a Casino in Vegas
Here,Ill explain,its alot more money then 10,000 of those punters would have paid right there
And thats one guy
Now picture 3000 of that level of high roller
On top of that,Calzaghe would have a better chance of getting a decision in say,Boston,then Hopkins.
In the states we have no WW2 to create a feeling of we're all in this together. We hate eachother in the states like Liverpool and Manchester,but with higher caliber weapons
Then why can't even Hopkins' best offer $8 million, only just beat the best purse that these poverty-stricken 60,000 provided Kessler with last month? If the money there is as good as you stay, surely he could easily front up twice that?
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Re: Fighters we love to hate no matter how good they are...
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He's not exciting?ok,well lets look at his 6 fights
Castillo....both stood in front of each other and traded,hatton then knocks him out wit a body shot
Urango-boring fight
Collazo-while he did too much holding it was still a good fight
Maussa-non stop attacking from ricky wit one of the best knockout punches of the last few years
Tsyzu-Hatton non stop attacking
Olivera-Hatton beating him up with vicious body and head attack,stops him in ten,olivera on the floor twice
Mike Stewart-Knocked him down 3 times,And great finish.
As well as exciting early fights,so how is Hatton not exciting?
The Maussa fight was rubbish imo, Maussa fights like he has only put gloves on for the first time and he turns any fight into a non watchable fight.
I didn't think Tszyu fight was great either too much clinching, thats why i don't like Hatton's style alot of his fights involve messy fighting plus too much clinching just not my taste.
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If floyd loses i cant wait to c how he will respond after the fight to Larry Merchant....
Im kind of curious to see what kind of PPV numbers this fight does.
Mayweather isnt nearly the commodity he thinks he is because of his run for the hills style,and Hattons not big bank because he isnt very well known and is a hold and hit guy,not to mention theyre going to be charging a small fortune for it
Mayweather doesn't run i think your find most of his fights he has stayed in punching range. Most of his fights have been exciting to watch except a few of his latest fights.
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by fin
I dont like Frank Warren and i think Joe should fight B hop in America,even tho b hop cant draw flies to S*** and a fight in wales would bring 60 thousand....,but I would like to c joe go to America and beat him..but b hop dont want the fight,he didnt want it a few years ago and dont want it now....
Why cant you guys ever understand how boxing works,where the money really is,and that the US isnt like Isles
Do you have any idea what one guy like say Trump,will drop on the table in a Casino in Vegas
Here,Ill explain,its alot more money then 10,000 of those punters would have paid right there
And thats one guy
Now picture 3000 of that level of high roller
On top of that,Calzaghe would have a better chance of getting a decision in say,Boston,then Hopkins.
In the states we have no WW2 to create a feeling of we're all in this together. We hate eachother in the states like Liverpool and Manchester,but with higher caliber weapons
Then why can't even Hopkins' best offer $8 million, only just beat the best purse that these poverty-stricken 60,000 provided Kessler with last month? If the money there is as good as you stay, surely he could easily front up twice that?
Why would they?
Joe said he wanted 5 million right after the Kessler fight,now 8 isnt good enough?
Not to mention the fight would be sold on Bernards name,not Joes.
A clue for you,Calzaghe/Kessler wasnt even a pay per view here,it was a freebie on HBO
Its all Frank Warren BS sorry to disapoint you
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Calzaghe for me bet that shocked a few people ;D 43-0 is a great record but im still not impressed with what he has achieved i think he left his best fights to late in his career.Yes he beat Lacy and Kessler hat off to him for that but to hear Joe talk you would think he had done so much more.
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by fin
I dont like Frank Warren and i think Joe should fight B hop in America,even tho b hop cant draw flies to S*** and a fight in wales would bring 60 thousand....,but I would like to c joe go to America and beat him..but b hop dont want the fight,he didnt want it a few years ago and dont want it now....
Why cant you guys ever understand how boxing works,where the money really is,and that the US isnt like Isles
Do you have any idea what one guy like say Trump,will drop on the table in a Casino in Vegas
Here,Ill explain,its alot more money then 10,000 of those punters would have paid right there
And thats one guy
Now picture 3000 of that level of high roller
On top of that,Calzaghe would have a better chance of getting a decision in say,Boston,then Hopkins.
In the states we have no WW2 to create a feeling of we're all in this together. We hate eachother in the states like Liverpool and Manchester,but with higher caliber weapons
Then why can't even Hopkins' best offer $8 million, only just beat the best purse that these poverty-stricken 60,000 provided Kessler with last month? If the money there is as good as you stay, surely he could easily front up twice that?
Why would they?
Joe said he wanted 5 million right after the Kessler fight,now 8 isnt good enough?
Not to mention the fight would be sold on Bernards name,not Joes.
A clue for you,Calzaghe/Kessler wasnt even a pay per view here,it was a freebie on HBO
Its all Frank Warren BS sorry to disapoint you
Calzaghe probably wanted £5 million instead of dollars. Latest news in the UK is that Hopkins offered a smudge over £2 million, which isn't even $5 million US. Let's face it mate, the total purse would be huge for this one, so why is Hopkins' people offering such a paltry sum which won't even beat Calzaghe's career highest purse? Your previous argument was that the money was so much better in Vegas, yet Hopkins' people can't offer decent money to Calzaghe? I'm afraid that either sounds like Hopkins BS or you having way over-exaggerated the money that is available to make the fight in Vegas.
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by fin
I dont like Frank Warren and i think Joe should fight B hop in America,even tho b hop cant draw flies to S*** and a fight in wales would bring 60 thousand....,but I would like to c joe go to America and beat him..but b hop dont want the fight,he didnt want it a few years ago and dont want it now....
Why cant you guys ever understand how boxing works,where the money really is,and that the US isnt like Isles
Do you have any idea what one guy like say Trump,will drop on the table in a Casino in Vegas
Here,Ill explain,its alot more money then 10,000 of those punters would have paid right there
And thats one guy
Now picture 3000 of that level of high roller
On top of that,Calzaghe would have a better chance of getting a decision in say,Boston,then Hopkins.
In the states we have no WW2 to create a feeling of we're all in this together. We hate eachother in the states like Liverpool and Manchester,but with higher caliber weapons
Then why can't even Hopkins' best offer $8 million, only just beat the best purse that these poverty-stricken 60,000 provided Kessler with last month? If the money there is as good as you stay, surely he could easily front up twice that?
Why would they?
Joe said he wanted 5 million right after the Kessler fight,now 8 isnt good enough?
Not to mention the fight would be sold on Bernards name,not Joes.
A clue for you,Calzaghe/Kessler wasnt even a pay per view here,it was a freebie on HBO
Its all Frank Warren BS sorry to disapoint you
Calzaghe probably wanted £5 million instead of dollars. Latest news in the UK is that Hopkins offered a smudge over £2 million, which isn't even $5 million US. Let's face it mate, the total purse would be huge for this one, so why is Hopkins' people offering such a paltry sum which won't even beat Calzaghe's career highest purse? Your previous argument was that the money was so much better in Vegas, yet Hopkins' people can't offer decent money to Calzaghe? I'm afraid that either sounds like Hopkins BS or you having way over-exaggerated the money that is available to make the fight in Vegas.
No,he wanted 2.5 million pounds,thats 5 million US
Then Calzaghe swiftly set his sights on legend Hopkins - and a £2.5million purse. He said: “Bernard, let’s do it, let’s do it. I’ve been undefeated champion for the last 10 years, I’ve won four major belts — what else is there to do but get guys like Hopkins?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle426009.ece
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Ricky is exciting,apart from the Urango fight...
If u dont think he's exciting then u either hate Hatton or dont know wat your looking at...
What is it with British fight fans and their persecution complex?
I don't get it either. It seems a lot of people on here think Americans simply hate anything British.
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Ricky is exciting,apart from the Urango fight...
If u dont think he's exciting then u either hate Hatton or dont know wat your looking at...
What is it with British fight fans and their persecution complex?
I don't get it either. It seems a lot of people on here think Americans simply hate anything British.
Neither do I,most of the music I listen to is British,Ive loved some British fighters,ok Ill admit I find British food inedible,but thats just me
Of course theyve got alot of Pizza joints in Britain these days so....................... ;D
For gods sake,Im listening to the Cockney Rejects right now
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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I dont like Frank Warren and i think Joe should fight B hop in America,even tho b hop cant draw flies to S*** and a fight in wales would bring 60 thousand....,but I would like to c joe go to America and beat him..but b hop dont want the fight,he didnt want it a few years ago and dont want it now....
Why cant you guys ever understand how boxing works,where the money really is,and that the US isnt like Isles
Do you have any idea what one guy like say Trump,will drop on the table in a Casino in Vegas
Here,Ill explain,its alot more money then 10,000 of those punters would have paid right there
And thats one guy
Now picture 3000 of that level of high roller
On top of that,Calzaghe would have a better chance of getting a decision in say,Boston,then Hopkins.
In the states we have no WW2 to create a feeling of we're all in this together. We hate eachother in the states like Liverpool and Manchester,but with higher caliber weapons
Then why can't even Hopkins' best offer $8 million, only just beat the best purse that these poverty-stricken 60,000 provided Kessler with last month? If the money there is as good as you stay, surely he could easily front up twice that?
Why would they?
Joe said he wanted 5 million right after the Kessler fight,now 8 isnt good enough?
Not to mention the fight would be sold on Bernards name,not Joes.
A clue for you,Calzaghe/Kessler wasnt even a pay per view here,it was a freebie on HBO
Its all Frank Warren BS sorry to disapoint you
Calzaghe probably wanted £5 million instead of dollars. Latest news in the UK is that Hopkins offered a smudge over £2 million, which isn't even $5 million US. Let's face it mate, the total purse would be huge for this one, so why is Hopkins' people offering such a paltry sum which won't even beat Calzaghe's career highest purse? Your previous argument was that the money was so much better in Vegas, yet Hopkins' people can't offer decent money to Calzaghe? I'm afraid that either sounds like Hopkins BS or you having way over-exaggerated the money that is available to make the fight in Vegas.
No,he wanted 2.5 million pounds,thats 5 million US
Then Calzaghe swiftly set his sights on legend Hopkins - and a £2.5million purse. He said: “Bernard, let’s do it, let’s do it. I’ve been undefeated champion for the last 10 years, I’ve won four major belts — what else is there to do but get guys like Hopkins?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle426009.ece
At no point in that article does it directly attribute a comment demanding a £2.5 million purse to Calzaghe. Having been a journalist myself for two years, the fine line between speculation and direct quotes from someone can be blurred very easily, and if Joe had actually come out and say that he wanted a £2.5 million purse, then it would be in direct quotes.
This is just the tabloids speculating on how much the purse would be, not Joe's demands to make a fight with Hopkins. Journalists are slippery customers, and although that paragraph is shady in the extreme, I think it just about strays on the side of the line that wouldn't get them convicted if someone decided to sue for that type of sentence.
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Funny how you believe everything that says your guy isnt ducking,isnt it
A Frank Warren leak must be as solid as gold,because we all know how trustworthy Frank is,but when it says your boy is ducking,oh well thats just a tabloid
