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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
ICB, I'm gonna be honest with you about something here this is one of the most absurd and ridiculous parts of a post I have ever seen and I've seen some ridiculous ones.
Oh well thats your problem, i just have a different opinion and you have to insult me ?? Im English yes ?? so say if i was born in the USA or any other country. It would still make me English how hard is that too understand ?? and why do you keep bringing this up ??
That's fine that you have your opinion you are entitled to that.
I never insulted you if I insulted something here it's the words that you typed. Ask anyone here if saying "I could careless where they are born they are still Mexican" is not absurd.
The title of the thread read "Top 10..... Mexican Fighters....."
The title did NOT read "Top 10 Mexican-American Fighters....."
Theres a difference there you can ask anyone.
I'm telling you this from a guy who knows what that's like from a guy whos been living thru that.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
"All I know is that there Mexican"
Juan Diaz was born in Texas that's in the United States of America that by law makes him American unless he nationalizes himself by another country.
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Mexican/American whatever he is still Mexican is he not ?? i didn't think when i started this thread that people were going to be so picky on Mexican/American subject jesus ::**
You don't get it ICE.
Mexican is one thing Mexican-American is another.
The same way theres Mexicans and Indiegenous-Mexicans.
Society has segregrated the people this way NOT me. I was just trying to let you know that the fighters you were listing were not Mexican.
About the rolling of the eyes, if your gonna start a thread that reads "Top 10 Mexican fighters" you can rest assured people will pay close attention to whom you list. The other night I made a thread of African fighters and I accidently listed some fighters that were from another country and I corrected that because it's true.
Do me a favor Ice look up the definition for Mexican and then look up the definition Mexican-American you wanna know why theres 2 results because they are different. If it was the same then the definition would either be the same or it would be on the same page.
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
No you don't because technically there still Mexican. Yes Diaz was born in USA and he is Mexican/American BUT THAT STILL MAKES HIM MEXICAN. It doesnt matter where there born there still Mexican thats a fact.
ICE, he is American of Mexican descent.
Again society has labeled us as Mexican-American just like Latino.
ICE have you ever filled out an application let's say for college?
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say no.
The options under Race: Asian Pacific Islander African Cantonesse American Hispanic Other:________
We the people who have parents who were born anywhere in Mexico and or South American are also known as Hispanics/Latinos.
Luis Collazo was born in the states would you rate him as Puerto Rican fighter cause he is descendent of Puerto Rican blood? Matter a fact check this out Luis Collazo would be considered New Yorican that's a mixture of New York with Puerto Rican.
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Like i said earlier if i was born in another Country it would still make me English end of.
Until you nationalized yourself English yes.
Other then that you by law would be considered a native of whatever country you were born in.
Check this out ICE, one of my cousins was born in Mexico both of his parents were born here in the US. Does that make him Mexican-American?
Nope he is Mexican and that's it. If Immigration shows up to his house and they knock on his door you think they're gonna ask him "Where were you born?" "Mexico" "How about your parents?" "America"
OK then you can stay here illegally. Yeah right they'll take his a** out of this country faster then what you can say 'Eureka".
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
I didn't think you would be so picky on American/Mexican subject and so insulting in fact im locking this topic because this is pointless.
And yet again if your doing a thread on a topic isn't it only right that I can debate and have my opinion? I wasn't being touchy about it I was just trying to make my comment about it. That fighters who are American of Mexican descent are not by law Mexican. Again Mexican-American as well as Hispanic and Latino are words that were made up by society to be able to segregrate us. If I insulted you please show me where? I used the words absurd and ridiculous to describe your post. I never once did I insult you.
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In future im not debating with you anymore.
Look man I'm not sure why you are taking this debate like this. I was only trying to let you know that there a difference between Mexican-American & Mexican it is not the same.
Theres no need to tell me "In the future I wont debate with you" this is a boxing forum not a school playground where you can say "I don't wanna play with you anymore".....
I wanna go about this the right way and the rolling of the eyes and the "Well that's your problem" that you threw in there is a bit hard to swollow but I'll end this like this.
Remember when you said you were posting just to get some good debates going a couple of weeks ago. Remember I told you be careful what you wish for. You've got yourself a debate and you've changed your mind about locking the thread and opening it twice.... Now that you got what you wanted you don't know what to do with it.
ICE, I know your deal and to be honest theres a handful of people here who know your deal. You ain't foolin' nobody here well acutally maybe 1 or 2 people but those are ones who can't read between the lines. I would recommend you do as you said you would and just ignore my post I think it's for the better.
