Monty Burns would make a better President than the lot of them
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Monty Burns would make a better President than the lot of them
Huckabee or Cain
I'm undecided because I've been spending all my free time trying to figure out what Clinton has done in the past 35 yrs. that qualifies her to be anything. Must've been a fun plane ride from Iowa to New Hampshire. Bet old Bill spent most of the flight in the restroom.
The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
....the problem with the UK is that they are snooty bastards who post in blue fontsQuote:
Originally Posted by X
yes, but we also have more than our fair share of stupidity over here too !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Which is why we have to tell you what to do ;D
Ha ha - quick response .... nice one ! :D
Another Republican debate tonight on Fox....I wonder if Romney is going to be massacred again....I ALMOST felt bad for him last night
This year is a cluster you know what for both parties
The guys who could unify the country McCain and Edwards are both toast allready.MCCain for selling himself out,and Edwards over a haircut
The early presumed front runners Gulliani and Clinton are looking in trouble for not actually representing their own party
Oddly a Goldwater Republican in Ron Paul,and a Kennedy Democrat in Kucinich are gaining support for not being the status quo,and scaring the hell out of both establishments
America is openly not caring about the actor for once,sorry Fred
Odd to think that,all of the canidates are going to suck so hard the impossable might happen regardless of party.
Who'd have thought it very likely might be the Mormon vs the African American?
This isnt bad,just interesting to watch mainstream canidates who are supposed to win somehow find a way to aim the gun at their own foot repeatedly,while the guys who were supposedly anthema to the American people like Huckabee,Obama,and Romney are skating to the lead
I don't think Romney is doing too hot right now, if he's knocked back to third place in New Hampshire he's done. He's as my Dad describes him "George W. Bush Light".
McCain is in the lead in NH and I think he's a viable candidate but he's a little bit old right now.
Huckabee could be a unifier, he's got a good message, he's in reality more of a populist than a Republican.
John Edwards is doing poorly in NH just because he's southern and he's a fiesty talker.
I think right now Obama is in control, it's his to lose....he just better not burn all this momentum up right now, he better save some for the actual Presidential Race
Thats my worry
All the canidates are going to snipe at each other that the final limp to the Whitehouse is going to leave everyone ticked about the eventual winner
Rather then talking about what a crappy canidate the other guy is(or woman)talk about what your going to do
Obama's doing a good job of it and dodging the slings and arrows,Huckabee's riding the line,Romney Edwards,and McCain have all taken it on the chin,Clinton's the big toss up
Romney just seems so transparent. I mean even for a politician.
He's the big loser, losing Iowa's one thing, losing New Hampshire, in his region really, is totally different. Plus what's next South Carolina, that sounds like Huckabee, maybe McCain. I think unless something changes Romney's getting close to being done. And good. I have a lot of problems with Huckabee and McCain, I'm not a Republican obviously, but at least they seem to have more substance than Romney who's just a non-entity.
GOP
Romney.
Flip flopper extrordinaire. And an infidel Mormon, which won't go down well with the Taliban wing of the GOP.
Huckabee.
The Taliban's candidate. Feared and loathed by the GOP's Enron wing, who don't understand why the evangelicals can't just perform their usual functions for the GOP ie. vote, donate, volunteer for grunt work like phonebanking.
McCain.
The GOP establishment candidate. The party's big backers have looked at the field and it's clear that McCain is going to get all the help he can be given, favourable press etc. to try and get him the nomination even though GOP voters aren't enthralled. If nominated will pick Joe Lieberman as running mate to help attract Republican voters.
Democrats.
Obama.
Looks good for him after Iowa. Hard to stop him now.
Hillary.
Imploding after Iowa. Panic stations right now.
Edwards.
Might have a chance if Hillary pulls out early but probably toast.
Who wins the election should be easy to predict but isn't. The GOP base is n't enthused by either the last eight years or their choice of candidates, Dems are energised and everything's in their favour right now. Next year the economy will get worse and worse as we head to November, favouring a "change" candidate like Obama over an old bastard like McCain.
But the media handle GOP and Democratic candidates entirely differently. There's going to be the most unpleasant-ever GOP election campaign and the media will just let them get on with it. It's going to be a Democratic victory but it may be much smaller than it really should be. Obama wins in 2008.
KL you obviously have a hard time being subjective about politics, you don't even try to see the good and bad in even ONE Republican candidate....you call McCain an "old bastard", you call the conservative Christians "the taliban", and you call Romney an "infidel"
Let me break the race down for you subjectively in a calm clear way which describes the good assets of the GOP candidates and also their negatives....and I'll cover every last one of them....I'll even cover the Democrats without resorting to name calling and being childish and hopefully you'll return the favor and actually think about what I wrote and not be a bigot.
GOP
John McCain - PROS: He's the "maverick" of the party, he's a fighter, he served his country honorably and uses real life experience with his views on the War in Iraq and torture. He is very active in Congress and authors legislation (most congressmen just vote, McCain writes out Bills), and he's not afraid to work WITH Democrats (Ted Kennedy, Russel Feingold). CONS: the McCain-Kennedy "Amnesty Bill" didn't serve him well with the Republican base, he's older, and he's the "maverick" and he's willing to work with Democrats....while appealing to parts of the GOP and Independents it annoys the "base"
Mike Huckabee - PROS: believes in "verticle politics" (no left and right only UP or DOWN, a great way to think and I figured you KL would like him), 10 years as Governor the most Executive experience in the race, he ran a Democratic state as a Republican for 10 years, he's able to work with Democrats, he's got a good grasp on what the masses want, (he's basically the Republican John Edwards) he connects with the everyday working man and family and he's a "Washington outsider" which is codeword for he doesn't follow the Party on every single issue. CONS: not everyone knows him, he's easily pegged by the media and liberals as a crazy Southern Baptist (which he's really not, religion shouldn't factor in so much to how he's viewed), not everyone is sold on the fact that he's a Republican ie he has some qualities that don't fit the bill, like raising taxes for education and the support of the NEA as well as letting some criminals get pardoned
Mitt Romney - PROS: He's been elected in the BLUEST state of them all (Massachusetts) as a Republican, he has had success running companies as well as running a state (an Executive position, which means experience), He's from the northeast (a GOP trouble area, they need those states in order to win a National Election), he has experience of Presidential races, his father George Romney ran for President in 1964 (and the fact that George Romney was mormon never factored into the election and right now it's kind of a issue the media drummed up, nothing serious). CONS: he's a new convert to Pro-Life (not a big deal in my book but a HUGE deal for the "base"), he's from a super liberal state, he's flip flopped as you said which the Republicans don't appreciate.
Rudy Guliani - PROS: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11 he's all about getting the terrorists and a "Strong America" and yeah the base digs that, CONS: he's been married 3 times, he's anti-gun and pro-choice, and he's kind of shady....all bad things
Fred Thompson - PROS: He's an actor and Ronald Reagan was an actor....that's all there is for him, other than that CONS: he's just a tired old man who doesn't want to campaign
Ron Paul - PROS: he's an isolationist (which sounds good but is really naive), he's the farther right maverick when compared to McCain CONS: his followers are assholes and he gets good ideas across in a manner which makes him seem crazy
Democrats
Hillary Clinton - she's got experience (I don't know about 35 years worth, which is what she claims but she has experience) and someone to ask for help. The bad news is she reminds the other side of the Clinton era and they absolutely despise her, she has the highest negatives of any candidate.....that means people are just as likely to show up and vote AGAINST her as they are to show up to vote FOR someone.
Barrack Obama - He's young, charasmatic, full of energy, and he's got a very short history of politics (which means little dirt to dig up on him). No one can argue with the crowds he draws...he's the new John F. Kennedy....it will still be difficult for him in a National Election but the Democratic Primaries are his to lose right now.
John Edwards - he's a populist candidate, he's got a lot of Bill Clinton in him, he's out there working for the little guy and he's finding lots of support. However he was a HORRIBLE Senator for North Carolina he was hardly present at meetings and never drew up any legislation whiched earned him the nickname "Senator Who" in North Carolina.......he also has a mansion in North Carolina.....one that raised the price of land in his neighborhood and this eventually forced his neighbor to move.....not too good for the "people's candidate".