Re: W.Klistchko vs Tony Thompson is done....
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GermanHitman
Wow, lot's of people here are really panning for Haye. That's good that he has that kind of backing. It's really funny though that about every one of them are from the UK.
Listen guys, Wladimir Klitschko Knocks David Haye out mid to late rounds. End of story!
Your all saying Wlad never seen someone like Haye. Wlad has seen alot more than Haye has seen. Wlad has a very lengthy am. career (olympic gold) as well and many pro. fights STARTING at the heavyweight class. Wlad is alot taller and will be just as fast, not to mention he has Manny Steward. Wladimir is pretty much untouchable at this point. I have always said: nobody beats Wlad except someone that mauls him, overpowers him and lands a hard luck shot on the button... and maybe not even then.
C'mon man, That was a long time ago and Wlad was a work in progress. he's peaking now and i highly down anything near that catastrophic would Your comparing apples to Oranges. Sanders had an Iron Jaw too that Haye does not have. Don't compare Haye to Sanders that just silly.
David haye is technical and will not be able to do that with Wlad. He will try to be landed precise punches and get picked apart until wlad drops him with a Crisp straight right.
I am not downing Haye but guys... he's NOT beating Wladimir. Someone here is smoking the devil's lettuce or snorting booger sugar thinking otherwise.
Haye beats many of the top guys but anyone with the last name Klitschko is not in gonna be one of them.
See i keep hearing that Wlad has seen a lot of "Haye's* but i ask you and all other people i have asked what opponent has similar to Haye's speed or power ?? the only opponent i can think who had Haye's speed and power is Corrie Sanders and he crushed Wlad like an ant, so explain to me who Wlad has beaten who has Haye's power or speed ??
Listen, that was a long time ago. He was a work in progress and now he is peaking. Nothing catastrophic like that will happen again. He has come quite a distance since then but unfortunately you are stuck five years back.
Also, don't compare sanders to haye.. that's just silly. Apples and oranges. Sanders also had a granite chin and Haye has nothing of the such. You act as Haye has the same instinct same power and basically already fought Wlad?!?! You are someone i will look for to say "i told you" when Wlad parks Him. Haye never faced adversity like he will trying to get in on Wlad and eating a bomb of a straight right.
Re: W.Klistchko vs Tony Thompson is done....
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Originally Posted by
GermanHitman
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
GermanHitman
Wow, lot's of people here are really panning for Haye. That's good that he has that kind of backing. It's really funny though that about every one of them are from the UK.
Listen guys, Wladimir Klitschko Knocks David Haye out mid to late rounds. End of story!
Your all saying Wlad never seen someone like Haye. Wlad has seen alot more than Haye has seen. Wlad has a very lengthy am. career (olympic gold) as well and many pro. fights STARTING at the heavyweight class. Wlad is alot taller and will be just as fast, not to mention he has Manny Steward. Wladimir is pretty much untouchable at this point. I have always said: nobody beats Wlad except someone that mauls him, overpowers him and lands a hard luck shot on the button... and maybe not even then.
C'mon man, That was a long time ago and Wlad was a work in progress. he's peaking now and i highly down anything near that catastrophic would Your comparing apples to Oranges. Sanders had an Iron Jaw too that Haye does not have. Don't compare Haye to Sanders that just silly.
David haye is technical and will not be able to do that with Wlad. He will try to be landed precise punches and get picked apart until wlad drops him with a Crisp straight right.
I am not downing Haye but guys... he's NOT beating Wladimir. Someone here is smoking the devil's lettuce or snorting booger sugar thinking otherwise.
Haye beats many of the top guys but anyone with the last name Klitschko is not in gonna be one of them.
See i keep hearing that Wlad has seen a lot of "Haye's* but i ask you and all other people i have asked what opponent has similar to Haye's speed or power ?? the only opponent i can think who had Haye's speed and power is Corrie Sanders and he crushed Wlad like an ant, so explain to me who Wlad has beaten who has Haye's power or speed ??
Listen, that was a long time ago. He was a work in progress and now he is peaking. Nothing catastrophic like that will happen again. He has come quite a distance since then but unfortunately you are stuck five years back.
Also, don't compare sanders to haye.. that's just silly. Apples and oranges. Sanders also had a granite chin and Haye has nothing of the such. You act as Haye has the same instinct same power and basically already fought Wlad?!?! You are someone i will look for to say "i told you" when Wlad parks Him. Haye never faced adversity like he will trying to get in on Wlad and eating a bomb of a straight right.
How do you know it won't happen again ?? Wladimir hasn't fought anyone as dangerous as Sanders in a long time that posses Sander's hand speed and power. I think your mistaken im not comparing Sanders to Haye they fight nothing a like, i meant that both men have a lot of speed and power. And Sanders has a granite chin ?? are you kidding me ?? he was knocked out by a journeyman fighter aka Nate Tubbs in 2 rounds, and recently he was KO'd in the opening round.
We will see i don't care if you say "i told you so" if Wlad wins. I have my opinion you have yours thats it. If Haye wins i won't gloat or say "i told you so".
You say Haye will eat a right hand bomb but where was Wlad's aggression or right hand bomb against an even less dangerous opponent aka Sultan ?? You also forget if Haye lands his straight right it will be curtains for Wlad as well.
Re: W.Klistchko vs Tony Thompson is done....
I ain't being funny but people forget Haye will be hitting x2 as hard at hevayweight as Haye is a NATURAL HEAVYWEIGHT, you seen what he done to Bonin and one shot on Wlad's face and Wlad is gone. Wlad is in double fighures for knockdowns in his career something like 10 or 11 if I am correct and Haye's power is truly immense, for fuck sake the guy got put on his ass 3 times by Samuel Peter and KNFO by Sanders, that says it all :rolleyes:
Good points ICB BTW.
Re: W.Klistchko vs Tony Thompson is done....
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ICB
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Originally Posted by
GermanHitman
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ICB
See i keep hearing that Wlad has seen a lot of "Haye's* but i ask you and all other people i have asked what opponent has similar to Haye's speed or power ?? the only opponent i can think who had Haye's speed and power is Corrie Sanders and he crushed Wlad like an ant, so explain to me who Wlad has beaten who has Haye's power or speed ??
Listen, that was a long time ago. He was a work in progress and now he is peaking. Nothing catastrophic like that will happen again. He has come quite a distance since then but unfortunately you are stuck five years back.
Also, don't compare sanders to haye.. that's just silly. Apples and oranges. Sanders also had a granite chin and Haye has nothing of the such. You act as Haye has the same instinct same power and basically already fought Wlad?!?! You are someone i will look for to say "i told you" when Wlad parks Him. Haye never faced adversity like he will trying to get in on Wlad and eating a bomb of a straight right.
How do you know it won't happen again ?? Wladimir hasn't fought anyone as dangerous as Sanders in a long time that posses Sander's hand speed and power. I think your mistaken im not comparing Sanders to Haye they fight nothing a like, i meant that both men have a lot of speed and power. And Sanders has a granite chin ?? are you kidding me ?? he was knocked out by a journeyman fighter aka Nate Tubbs in 2 rounds, and recently he was KO'd in the opening round.
We will see i don't care if you say "i told you so" if Wlad wins. I have my opinion you have yours thats it. If Haye wins i won't gloat or say "i told you so".
You say Haye will eat a right hand bomb but where was Wlad's aggression or right hand bomb against an even less dangerous opponent aka Sultan ?? You also forget if Haye lands his straight right it will be curtains for Wlad as well.
How do you know it will? More signs point to "it wont" because he has improved. I understand that's your opinion but you can hear why you shouldn't think that way and counter it. You say less dangerous about Sultan.. he has a very awkward fight style. It has nothing to do with less dangerous. As far as Corrie Sanders.. think what you want.. if you think Haye could take 8 rounds of the shit Vitali Klitschko dished out to Sanders i don't know how to make it sound nice other than saying your full of shit. If Haye got the same beatin from Vitali Klitschko his ass would have been out in 4 or 5. Fact. Live it and love the shit out of it.
Re: W.Klistchko vs Tony Thompson is done....
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Originally Posted by
GermanHitman
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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GermanHitman
Listen, that was a long time ago. He was a work in progress and now he is peaking. Nothing catastrophic like that will happen again. He has come quite a distance since then but unfortunately you are stuck five years back.
Also, don't compare sanders to haye.. that's just silly. Apples and oranges. Sanders also had a granite chin and Haye has nothing of the such. You act as Haye has the same instinct same power and basically already fought Wlad?!?! You are someone i will look for to say "i told you" when Wlad parks Him. Haye never faced adversity like he will trying to get in on Wlad and eating a bomb of a straight right.
How do you know it won't happen again ?? Wladimir hasn't fought anyone as dangerous as Sanders in a long time that posses Sander's hand speed and power. I think your mistaken im not comparing Sanders to Haye they fight nothing a like, i meant that both men have a lot of speed and power. And Sanders has a granite chin ?? are you kidding me ?? he was knocked out by a journeyman fighter aka Nate Tubbs in 2 rounds, and recently he was KO'd in the opening round.
We will see i don't care if you say "i told you so" if Wlad wins. I have my opinion you have yours thats it. If Haye wins i won't gloat or say "i told you so".
You say Haye will eat a right hand bomb but where was Wlad's aggression or right hand bomb against an even less dangerous opponent aka Sultan ?? You also forget if Haye lands his straight right it will be curtains for Wlad as well.
How do you know it will? More signs point to "it wont" because he has improved. I understand that's your opinion but you can hear why you shouldn't think that way and counter it. You say less dangerous about Sultan.. he has a very awkward fight style. It has nothing to do with less dangerous. As far as Corrie Sanders.. think what you want.. if you think Haye could take 8 rounds of the shit Vitali Klitschko dished out to Sanders i don't know how to make it sound nice other than saying your full of shit. If Haye got the same beatin from Vitali Klitschko his ass would have been out in 4 or 5. Fact. Live it and love the shit out of it.
Wlad has improved by being more cautious he rarely takes any risks when fighting now, and is happy with winning a boring jab-fest/clinch-fest. He hasn't met anyone in a long time that is a dangerous as Haye speed wise and power wise. Haye will take the fight too him and force him to fight and we will see how Wlad copes. I don't know if Haye could take the same punishment Sanders did against Vitali neither do you IMO no Haye couldn't of took that punishment, but Haye wouldn't have been getting hit as much as Sanders, because Sanders has a poor defense and leaves his chin out to be hit. Your last comment makes no sense to me you seem to be getting agitated over nothing. Im just giving my opinion thats it, i think Wlad is far too cautious and i don't like his jab-fest/clinch-fest style at all. Im not saying it isn't effective im always a strong believer of do what you have to do to win, but it doesn't mean i have to enjoy watching it, and it doesn't mean i can't believe Haye could KO Wlad.
Re: W.Klistchko vs Tony Thompson is done....
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
GermanHitman
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Originally Posted by
ICB
How do you know it won't happen again ?? Wladimir hasn't fought anyone as dangerous as Sanders in a long time that posses Sander's hand speed and power. I think your mistaken im not comparing Sanders to Haye they fight nothing a like, i meant that both men have a lot of speed and power. And Sanders has a granite chin ?? are you kidding me ?? he was knocked out by a journeyman fighter aka Nate Tubbs in 2 rounds, and recently he was KO'd in the opening round.
We will see i don't care if you say "i told you so" if Wlad wins. I have my opinion you have yours thats it. If Haye wins i won't gloat or say "i told you so".
You say Haye will eat a right hand bomb but where was Wlad's aggression or right hand bomb against an even less dangerous opponent aka Sultan ?? You also forget if Haye lands his straight right it will be curtains for Wlad as well.
How do you know it will? More signs point to "it wont" because he has improved. I understand that's your opinion but you can hear why you shouldn't think that way and counter it. You say less dangerous about Sultan.. he has a very awkward fight style. It has nothing to do with less dangerous. As far as Corrie Sanders.. think what you want.. if you think Haye could take 8 rounds of the shit Vitali Klitschko dished out to Sanders i don't know how to make it sound nice other than saying your full of shit. If Haye got the same beatin from Vitali Klitschko his ass would have been out in 4 or 5. Fact. Live it and love the shit out of it.
Wlad has improved by being more cautious he rarely takes any risks when fighting now, and is happy with winning a boring jab-fest/clinch-fest. He hasn't met anyone in a long time that is a dangerous as Haye speed wise and power wise. Haye will take the fight too him and force him to fight and we will see how Wlad copes. I don't know if Haye could take the same punishment Sanders did against Vitali neither do you IMO no Haye couldn't of took that punishment, but Haye wouldn't have been getting hit as much as Sanders, because Sanders has a poor defense and leaves his chin out to be hit. Your last comment makes no sense to me you seem to be getting agitated over nothing. Im just giving my opinion thats it, i think Wlad is far too cautious and i don't like his jab-fest/clinch-fest style at all. Im not saying it isn't effective im always a strong believer of do what you have to do to win, but it doesn't mean i have to enjoy watching it, and it doesn't mean i can't believe Haye could KO Wlad.
No man, i wasn't getting agitated i will stop with that. I was just trying to prove a point and went overboard. Sorry. Haye is a great boxer i understand and it will be interesting. I do think that he will give Wlad more trouble than anyone in the heavies right now but i think Wlad would get him outta there. But just like i told you... I myself don't know either. I just say Wlad has a leg up because he was heavy from the get go and has much more pro fights and pretty lengthy am. career as well. I can say this.. i know two people (you and I) that will be watching this fight if it is to happen.
I also think that a good fight for Haye would be Eddie Chambers and Povetkin. Chanbers is fast with good defense of course and i think he would give Haye a tough fight. Povetkin being a mauler would keep the pressure up. That kinda guy pursuing Haye may just get laid out by David. Ibragimov i think would be tough for anyone because his style is tricky and risky. He cocks that left hand back and leans back so if you do try to land something of substance He can let that left go clean.
I'm sorry again for coming across as a dick you seem like an alright guy.
