I hope the Hell Calzaghe dosent dissapoint

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Originally Posted by richard (mossley)

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by richard (mossley)

I agree, what a stupid comment. Has Hopkins ever fought outside USA?

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Check it out on boxrec coz I ain't.

America is where the big fights happen and to secure or strengthen your legacy I should say, you have to go over to the US to fight at MSG or Vegas etc, thats what I mean. Calzaghe ain't a major box office in the states coz he fought in UK all his career and ain't fought over there yet, but he will be after he faces Hopkins and wins.

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Bernard Hopkins

Well I did check it out.

1994, He visited Ecaudor to fight for the Vacant Middleweight Title and he drew. He went down twice as well in the 5th and 7th.
So the only time he stepped out of hiw own backyward he was not up to scratch.
He dragged Segundo Mercado back to USA for a rematch and won TKO 7th rd.

And buy the way, this fella he fought has a garbage record.

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Have you actually watched the fight ?? Hopkins didn't get acclimated to the altitude which resulted in a lackluster performance. But he still should of won despite being floored x2. He won majority of the rounds and Mercado got a hometown decision.

It would be a devastating loss if Calzaghe loses this one infront of an American audience.

I will be rooting for Joe and I know he can beat Bhop and do it in style.

I'm with ya WelshDevilRob ..... all the way bro..

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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob

It would be a devastating loss if Calzaghe loses this one infront of an American audience.

I will be rooting for Joe and I know he can beat Bhop and do it in style.

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Rep to ya....Joe Calzaghe is going to give Hopkins a harsh dose of reality;)

Nice one DaxxKhan,
Have you and WelshDevilRob read my earlier post on this thread ... you may like it....its about 4 or 5 posts back....ya may not too lol...but prob worth a look...

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Originally Posted by bambamdaddio

I do not even think this will be Joe's hardest fight, what worries me more is that when Joe beats Hopkins there will be every excuse under the sun coming out as to why....and not least " Yeah but he wouldn't have beat him in his prime" this fight may get messy and untidy at times and certainly won't be easy for either....simply put, at this stage in there careers Joe is the better option and fresher fighter,

The guy ain't been beat amateur or pro since 1990 and this is his destiny....is Joe so far beneath Taylor that the form line should suggest a Hopkins win.....I don't think so, do you think Hopkins hits so much harder than say Lacy, that he can knock Joe out I don't think so, in fact has Joe ever looked like being knocked out NO...And to Hopkins, is he as fast or as strong even as Kessler, again I don't think so...

There may be those who think that he can hustle Joe out of it...but on what basis is this, it for sure ain't because he is bigger and or stronger....Joe is as strong and as rough and tuff as they come, with all the ability in the world,

And I think the opposite to the Hopkins fans in hat Joe will not be phased fighting in the states, he is relishing this he really is, and I feel he will frustrate the holy hell out of Hopkins, and though I don't feel he will knock Hopkins out, I do feel that he may stop him with a later onslaught that Hopkins won't be able to cope with and the Ref intervening

Lets look at the two fighters today and be realistic in our assessments...This is a bigger fight for Joe and he will want it more...because like it or not HE IS STILL UNDEFEATED AS A PRO, all Southey's are prone to the right hand, but is to days Hopkins fast enough, or does he hit hard enough to single shot Joe out of it, I don't think so, is he busy enough to out work Joe, again I don't think so...

In all honesty, other than being in his own backyard, and getting rough....factors I really believe Joe is relishing, what else has Hopkins got...and before I get my head kicked in verbally by violent demise, please understand all I have typed is done out of an honest assessment of two Boxers I have the ultimate respect for, and not on some silly fan boy basis......

I honestly can not see what this years Hopkins has that in the past could not cope with Taylor, but can now cope with Joe Calzaghe...So Joe to win by three or four rounds with a possibility of a late stoppage, on accumalation rather than single shots....

Joe will win because he has to, and in the past when questions have been asked, he has always delivered, has Hopkins always delivered..... Ill say it one last time, I don't think so...

:badass::badass::badass:

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.:goodpost:...Have some rep...

I've got to say, for some reason I really hope Calzaghe DOES dissapoint. Or at least loses;D Of course I don't hope for a lackluster fight, but I just don't want to see Calzaghe do too well.... Don't know why, I guess I'm just a sucker for the underdog, old fighter, etc. I also dislike Calzaghe, I think he's a tremendous fighter who could have been right in the mix YEARS ago, but has just never pursued the big fights. Kessler was a damn good win and an excellent fighter, but there are still so many more good fighters Joe should have fought years ago. I feel Glen Johnson would have given him hell at any point, and the fact that Calzaghe has withdrew from fighting him several times never sat well with me. Honestly I find Joe very entertaining to watch, and I hate the way Ricky Hatton fights... But I have FAR more respect for Ricky since he left Frank Warren and actually sought out big fights in the US. Calzaghe has been content to just fight whoever Warren finds for him, in Wales, his entire career. I think Hopkins was dead right in that press conference, where he said Calzaghe is fighting him because there's really nowhere else to go. I also think Calzaghe is only taking this fight on foreign soil due to Hopkins age, which drastically influences my wanting Hopkins to win. Aside from all of that, I find Calzaghe a very boring person, I really never want to hear him say anything, wheras to me Hopkins is captivating, although obviously not too bright he is entertaining to listen to. He is the one selling this fight, he sure as hell didn't have to take the fight, wheras like I say Calzaghe had little other options. I would just absolutely love it if Hopkins had it left in him to pull this off.

can't wait for the fight. I feel Hopkins has nothing to lose and everything to win by taking this fight, if he loses he is still good but old and past it and if he wins he goes up big time in all time rankings. for joe taking this fight he risks alot if he loses but wins all kinds of respect if he wins.

prediction Hopkins UD

I'm another guy who would gun calzaghe at every oppurtunity but he did win me over with that stirring performance against Kessler. I don't know who I want to win..from a boxing stand-point it would be great for either fighter to win. Hopkins to pull out a last big performance and retire or Calzaghe to scalp another big name and go up another notch.
I do think this talk of him competing for P4P number one is silly though..he left it far too late imo for any talk about him reaching the top of that list. The competition he has faced previously doesn't allow for it.
Their styles are going to be a major factor in the end result of this fight.

I see Calzaghe starting very fast in the first couple of rounds then settling down, he will continue to set the pace for most of the fight.Hopkins will cause JC some problems he is to good a fighter to go through a whole fight and not have his moments. I see Calzaghe winning 8 rounds to 4 .

Calzaghe is a joy to watch. The way he disposed of Reid, Lacy and Kessler is definitely p4p. Calzaghe KO6 Hopkins. :cool:

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

Calzaghe is a joy to watch. The way he disposed of Reid, Lacy and Kessler is definitely p4p. Calzaghe KO6 Hopkins. :cool:

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Foolish kid. Hopkins has never been stopped. And the slapping Calzaghe will not be the first. Calzaghe is not even going to win

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

Calzaghe is a joy to watch. The way he disposed of Reid, Lacy and Kessler is definitely p4p. Calzaghe KO6 Hopkins. :cool:

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Foolish kid. Hopkins has never been stopped. And the slapping Calzaghe will not be the first. Calzaghe is not even going to win

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I'll tell you what's foolish. First, saying that Hopkins won't be stopped because he has never been. Second, calling what Joe does as slapping all the while lauding Floyd for effective punching. Third, saying with all the certainty in the world that Calzaghe is not going to win. Fourth, calling another a kid when he doesn't even know him. That is what is foolish. I was gonna call you "kid", but hey I'm not foolish.

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by JLAQ

Calzaghe is a joy to watch. The way he disposed of Reid, Lacy and Kessler is definitely p4p. Calzaghe KO6 Hopkins. :cool:

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Foolish kid. Hopkins has never been stopped. And the slapping Calzaghe will not be the first. Calzaghe is not even going to win

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I'll tell you what's foolish. First, saying that Hopkins won't be stopped because he has never been. Second, calling what Joe does as slapping all the while lauding Floyd for effective punching. Third, saying with all the certainty in the world that Calzaghe is not going to win. Fourth, calling another a kid when he doesn't even know him. That is what is foolish. I was gonna call you "kid", but hey I'm not foolish.

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