hopkins Was Emabarrased, Outclassed And Exposed

Lets ask the corners of Hopkins and Calzaghe going into the last round.


You had Calzaghe making excuses "He's fucking cheating" And his dad going "yeah but what the fuck are you doing!?! You need a knockout to win. Joe! You need a knockout. You need to stop him"

And Hopkins corner

"You got this fight one, you are way ahead in this fight he's gonna try to get you now."

No one had a better view of the fight then them.

Sounds like Calzaghe's corner felt he was behind and needed a knockout. And hopkins corner felt he was ahead. Wanna argue with them?

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Lets ask the corners of Hopkins and Calzaghe going into the last round.


You had Calzaghe making excuses "He's fucking cheating" And his dad going "yeah but what the fuck are you doing!?! You need a knockout to win. Joe! You need a knockout. You need to stop him"

And Hopkins corner

"You got this fight one, you are way ahead in this fight he's gonna try to get you now."

No one had a better view of the fight then them.

Sounds like Calzaghe's corner felt he was behind and needed a knockout. And hopkins corner felt he was ahead. Wanna argue with them?

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Course i wanna argue with them mate. The judges are the ones who score the fight, the corners can say what they like to motivate their fighter.

IN THE END IT IS THE JUDGES DECISSION, NOT ANYONE ELSES.

Why are you trying to pretend that hopkins won when 75% of people disagree with you, both hbo and setanta disagree with you and the judges disagree with you.

What i find funny is that when dawson beat johnson which was closer than this fight, infact 80% of viewers and hbo and setanta both thought johnson had won yet dawson won 116,112 accross the board it wasnt as big a deal as this is... yet when calzaghe clearly wins by 2 rounds (a close fight) there are people claiming calzaghe lost.

Stop pretending like he didnt win, calzaghe won the fight.

But the reason people wont let this go is because they hate the fact calzaghe won, they will do anything to hate on calzaghe, its so sad but its true. I dont know if this is because calzaghe is british or what, but they just hate to see calzaghe beat quality opponents, why so much hate?

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Lets ask the corners of Hopkins and Calzaghe going into the last round.


You had Calzaghe making excuses "He's fucking cheating" And his dad going "yeah but what the fuck are you doing!?! You need a knockout to win. Joe! You need a knockout. You need to stop him"

And Hopkins corner

"You got this fight one, you are way ahead in this fight he's gonna try to get you now."

No one had a better view of the fight then them.

Sounds like Calzaghe's corner felt he was behind and needed a knockout. And hopkins corner felt he was ahead. Wanna argue with them?

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Course i wanna argue with them mate. The judges are the ones who score the fight, the corners can say what they like to motivate their fighter.

IN THE END IT IS THE JUDGES DECISSION, NOT ANYONE ELSES.

Why are you trying to pretend that hopkins won when 75% of people disagree with you, both hbo and setanta disagree with you and the judges disagree with you.

What i find funny is that when dawson beat johnson which was closer than this fight, infact 80% of viewers and hbo and setanta both thought johnson had won yet dawson won 116,112 accross the board it wasnt as big a deal as this is... yet when calzaghe clearly wins by 2 rounds (a close fight) there are people claiming calzaghe lost.

Stop pretending like he didnt win, calzaghe won the fight.

But the reason people wont let this go is because they hate the fact calzaghe won, they will do anything to hate on calzaghe, its so sad but its true. I dont know if this is because calzaghe is british or what, but they just hate to see calzaghe beat quality opponents, why so much hate?

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Show me the 75 percent of people that think Calzaghe won or you're like the others who think calzaghe dominated and are full of crap :)

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Lets ask the corners of Hopkins and Calzaghe going into the last round.


You had Calzaghe making excuses "He's fucking cheating" And his dad going "yeah but what the fuck are you doing!?! You need a knockout to win. Joe! You need a knockout. You need to stop him"

And Hopkins corner

"You got this fight one, you are way ahead in this fight he's gonna try to get you now."

No one had a better view of the fight then them.

Sounds like Calzaghe's corner felt he was behind and needed a knockout. And hopkins corner felt he was ahead. Wanna argue with them?

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Course i wanna argue with them mate. The judges are the ones who score the fight, the corners can say what they like to motivate their fighter.

IN THE END IT IS THE JUDGES DECISSION, NOT ANYONE ELSES.

Why are you trying to pretend that hopkins won when 75% of people disagree with you, both hbo and setanta disagree with you and the judges disagree with you.

What i find funny is that when dawson beat johnson which was closer than this fight, infact 80% of viewers and hbo and setanta both thought johnson had won yet dawson won 116,112 accross the board it wasnt as big a deal as this is... yet when calzaghe clearly wins by 2 rounds (a close fight) there are people claiming calzaghe lost.

Stop pretending like he didnt win, calzaghe won the fight.

But the reason people wont let this go is because they hate the fact calzaghe won, they will do anything to hate on calzaghe, its so sad but its true. I dont know if this is because calzaghe is british or what, but they just hate to see calzaghe beat quality opponents, why so much hate?

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Show me the 75 percent of people that think Calzaghe won or you're like the others who think calzaghe dominated and are full of crap :)

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75% of this board believe calzaghe won, including some of calzaghes doubters mate, where have u been?

Does it look like i believe calzaghe dominated? Have you not read any of my posts on this subject?

FACT: CLOSE FIGHT

FACT: NO FIGHTER WAS BADLY HURT OR WOBBLED IE DEAD ON THEIR FEET

FACT: CALZAGHE WAS KNOCKED DOWN

FACT: HOPKINS DOMINATED FIRST 4 ROUNDS

FACT: CALZAGHE IMPRESSED IN LAST 8 ROUNDS

FACT: CALZAGHE WON

These are things ive written in other threads, dont tarnish me with another brush when ive clearlt said that i give nard lots of credit, he put up a great performance and was beating calzaghe emphatically until the 4th round when you could see calzaghe adapt, he managed to adapt his style like a true champ does and then decissively take some rounds along with some narrow wins in rounds to take the fight.

Ive watched it 3 times now and have the fight 115,113 to calzaghe on all occassions.

Tbh i cant be asked with this debate any longer as its getting boring now, we need to spk about something else, the whole calzaghe vs hopkins thing is starting to get very teadious and boring.

It was a close fight, hopkins started v well but calzaghe finished better, calzaghe won, thats all there is to it...let it be history and for the love of God lets spk about something else now guys.

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Course i wanna argue with them mate. The judges are the ones who score the fight, the corners can say what they like to motivate their fighter.

IN THE END IT IS THE JUDGES DECISSION, NOT ANYONE ELSES.

Why are you trying to pretend that hopkins won when 75% of people disagree with you, both hbo and setanta disagree with you and the judges disagree with you.

What i find funny is that when dawson beat johnson which was closer than this fight, infact 80% of viewers and hbo and setanta both thought johnson had won yet dawson won 116,112 accross the board it wasnt as big a deal as this is... yet when calzaghe clearly wins by 2 rounds (a close fight) there are people claiming calzaghe lost.

Stop pretending like he didnt win, calzaghe won the fight.

But the reason people wont let this go is because they hate the fact calzaghe won, they will do anything to hate on calzaghe, its so sad but its true. I dont know if this is because calzaghe is british or what, but they just hate to see calzaghe beat quality opponents, why so much hate?

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Show me the 75 percent of people that think Calzaghe won or you're like the others who think calzaghe dominated and are full of crap :)

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75% of this board believe calzaghe won, including some of calzaghes doubters mate, where have u been?

Does it look like i believe calzaghe dominated? Have you not read any of my posts on this subject?

FACT: CLOSE FIGHT

FACT: NO FIGHTER WAS BADLY HURT OR WOBBLED IE DEAD ON THEIR FEET

FACT: CALZAGHE WAS KNOCKED DOWN

FACT: HOPKINS DOMINATED FIRST 4 ROUNDS

FACT: CALZAGHE IMPRESSED IN LAST 8 ROUNDS

FACT: CALZAGHE WON

These are things ive written in other threads, dont tarnish me with another brush when ive clearlt said that i give nard lots of credit, he put up a great performance and was beating calzaghe emphatically until the 4th round when you could see calzaghe adapt, he managed to adapt his style like a true champ does and then decissively take some rounds along with some narrow wins in rounds to take the fight.

Ive watched it 3 times now and have the fight 115,113 to calzaghe on all occassions.

Tbh i cant be asked with this debate any longer as its getting boring now, we need to spk about something else, the whole calzaghe vs hopkins thing is starting to get very teadious and boring.

It was a close fight, hopkins started v well but calzaghe finished better, calzaghe won, thats all there is to it...let it be history and for the love of God lets spk about something else now guys.

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ive seen other threads and there is a majority of people who feel like hopkins won the fight too and it isnt a small majority so where did this "75 percent of people think calzaghe won" crap come from?

Cazlaghe didn't empress me in round 5 or 6 or 7 or 9 or 10 I am not saying Bernard won all those rounds, but I could make points for him in every one of them

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

For all you guys that have joined hopkins in denial manor, I have a new home for you right here.

Hopkins was trying to throw one shot at a time and trying to counter Joe all night but by like the 4th round, Joe had it figured out and made easy work of it. He had hopkins timing and everything else down.

Everyone wants to try to downplay it and say that Joe was throwing some wild punches but it was Bernard who was looking silly in the second half of the fight and being countered when he wasn't being swarmed.

Outclassed:
Joe was so masterful in solving hopkins. He came in not throwing his hardest punches because he knew bernanrd was putting his head down thus putting Joe in position to get his face busted up so he just threw half strength and and quickly covered his fave before hopkins head could hit it.

Embarassed:
He was in survival mode near the end against a guy who clearly wasn't going to stop coming to get him so he did what any other coward would do; try to get him DQ'ed or get points taken away. How classless was that on the part of bernard to fake it not once but twice? Max Kellerman called him on his bluff and showed him the replay and he still wouldn't confess. He actually had the nerve to say that it was right on the letters. Memo to bernard: Thats a legal punch stupid.

Exposed:
Now everyone got a chance to see how hopkins reacts when the tables are turned and all his dirty tactics don't amount to enough to slow the guy down. He chickens out. To top it off, he couldn't give the guy credit knowing he just beat him decisively.

Until you guys get over the facts, You can come in here and curse me out or send me negative rep or whatever other girly stuff you guys are into.

Get Well Soon!!!!

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well I neg repped you, Hopkins has been dominant for years, now aged 43 Joe decides he'll fight him? Suddenly Hopkins is exposed? For what, his age? As I wrote, you're a tool.

Good bye B-Hop no more I have to hear form you BYEEEE!!!
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[quote=MIKAY;503131]Dude are you retarded, how can someone expose hopkins at this stage in his career, hes 43 yr old bin there and done it, worn the t shirt and taken it off multiple times. lol Honestly you need to get a grip and stop talking shit, Jc won a close fight which could have gone either way, even the british commentators stated they wouldnt have argued if hopkins got the decision.

Seriously man i hope your just trying to stir up shit bcos if you actually believe what you have stated you are a retarded. All jc fanboys just need to remember bhop is a grand dad and im not joking.

All british fighters, and i mean all british fighters are totally over rated (& before you say youre biased im british born and raised in yorkshire). Fighting bums and old people and then claiming to be p4p kings, what a joke.

Prince Nas - First world class fighter fought - defeat
Hatton - Bums & old castillo - defaet - world class mayweather
Enzo Mac - Bums - first decent opponent haye knocked the fuk out
Lewis (canadion but you claim him) Old tyson, old holyfield - (still best of the bunch and loads of respect for lewis)
Fraudley harrison - just a shame to boxing
Joe C - bums - old - and overated fighter all through his career (FRANK WARREN SPECIAL)
dont even come with lacy, lacy was a future prospect but no where near in the league of the top operaters and niether is kessler, hopkins is old

This thread made me laugh because it was so retarded. :rolleyes:

Hatton didn't get exposed on a world stage at all, he got exposed as a full welterweight against the world's best p4p fighter. He's dominated in his own weight class and for the last three or so years has ONLY fought non British opposition. He's beaten two future Hall of Famers neither of whom was British and lost only to a guy who has beaten every other single one of his opponents as well. So by your logic Zab Judah, Corrales, De La Hoya, Genaro Hernandez and Jesus Chavez all got exposed on a world stage too.

How in the world you can list Lennox Lewis as being exposed is completely beyond me, he's the most dominant heavyweight IN THE WHOLE WORLD of the last 15 or so years. Not since Larry Holmes has a heavyweight been more dominant than him.

How you think Audley Harrison was exposed on a world stage when he never even got beyond British domestic level is also beyond me.

And Enzo Maccerinelli has never been exposed by an American fighter, he got knocked out by David Haye A BRIT!

Anyway at least according to your logic we can say that Bernard Hopkins finally got exposed on a world stage losing to Joe Calzaghe :cool:

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Hopkins got emabarrased? What the hell does that mean?

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Reference.com/Encyclopedia/Embarrassment

hope this helps

I'm not really going to get involved here.
I'm just going to state what I've stated in every thread on this fight.

Hopkins did A GOOD JOB.
He employed dirty tactics and questionable ethics, but he did a good job.
He neutralised Calzaghe's counterpunching, limited the effect of his speed and volume and also disgruntled Calzaghe slightly.
Hopkins, although not popularising himself with his performance made the most using his aged 43 year old body and gave the younger man hell in the early going. Hopkins' lack of restraint on his head and holding overshadowed some very intelligent footwork, some great defensive ideas and some great counters.

Boxing is a business. Fighters are there to make money, not impress us. Hopkins made his best attempt at amking the big money.

Calzaghe, once again demonstrated his resiliance, compusure and work ethic.

Give both ment their credit.

They're both world champions, they have the right to disrespect each other if they want.
But we can't dis either guy, they've got skills and expierience many of us will never be able to imagine.

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

For all you guys that have joined hopkins in denial manor, I have a new home for you right here.

Hopkins was trying to throw one shot at a time and trying to counter Joe all night but by like the 4th round, Joe had it figured out and made easy work of it. He had hopkins timing and everything else down.

Everyone wants to try to downplay it and say that Joe was throwing some wild punches but it was Bernard who was looking silly in the second half of the fight and being countered when he wasn't being swarmed.

Outclassed:
Joe was so masterful in solving hopkins. He came in not throwing his hardest punches because he knew bernanrd was putting his head down thus putting Joe in position to get his face busted up so he just threw half strength and and quickly covered his fave before hopkins head could hit it.

Embarassed:
He was in survival mode near the end against a guy who clearly wasn't going to stop coming to get him so he did what any other coward would do; try to get him DQ'ed or get points taken away. How classless was that on the part of bernard to fake it not once but twice? Max Kellerman called him on his bluff and showed him the replay and he still wouldn't confess. He actually had the nerve to say that it was right on the letters. Memo to bernard: Thats a legal punch stupid.

Exposed:
Now everyone got a chance to see how hopkins reacts when the tables are turned and all his dirty tactics don't amount to enough to slow the guy down. He chickens out. To top it off, he couldn't give the guy credit knowing he just beat him decisively.

Until you guys get over the facts, You can come in here and curse me out or send me negative rep or whatever other girly stuff you guys are into.

Get Well Soon!!!!

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Dude are you retarded, how can someone expose hopkins at this stage in his career, hes 43 yr old bin there and done it, worn the t shirt and taken it off multiple times. lol Honestly you need to get a grip and stop talking shit, Jc won a close fight which could have gone either way, even the british commentators stated they wouldnt have argued if hopkins got the decision.

Seriously man i hope your just trying to stir up shit bcos if you actually believe what you have stated you are a retarded. All jc fanboys just need to remember bhop is a grand dad and im not joking.

All british fighters, and i mean all british fighters are totally over rated (& before you say youre biased im british born and raised in yorkshire). Fighting bums and old people and then claiming to be p4p kings, what a joke.

Prince Nas - First world class fighter fought - defeat
Hatton - Bums & old castillo - defaet - world class mayweather
Enzo Mac - Bums - first decent opponent haye knocked the fuk out
Lewis (canadion but you claim him) Old tyson, old holyfield - (still best of the bunch and loads of respect for lewis)
Fraudley harrison - just a shame to boxing
Joe C - bums - old - and overated fighter all through his career (FRANK WARREN SPECIAL)
dont even come with lacy, lacy was a future prospect but no where near in the league of the top operaters and niether is kessler, hopkins is old

See a pattern emerging

Mayweather - has fought and beat everybody in there primes
Roy Jones - Again fought and beat world class operaters in thier primes
Hopkins - Again beat winky, tarver and a whole host of others in there primes
Tito - won & lost to all prime p4p's
Delahoya - dont need to say much here, im sure you know
Jt - lost to pavlik but had the balls to fight him in his prime

see another pattern emerging - these are p4p's and future legends, just compare the the oppsition fought and then have a think before you claim jc is p4p number 1 in the world

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From what I have highlighted in bold you know fuck all about boxing or just hate British fighters and love US fighters.

Calling Kosta Tzsyu a bum is pathetic, he was #2 P4P when he fought Hatton, Collazo was prime and yet Hatton won a UD and floored him, Urango and Maussa were both current world champions when Hatton fought them.

Floyd Mayweather has fought a number of shot fighters - Arturo Gatti and Sharmba Mitchell come to mind and ODLH is a 35 yr old part time fighter. Zab Judah was coming off a loss, Baldomir is one-dimensional and Floyd got clearly beat by Castillo in their first fight.

That statement about Tarver and Wright in their prime is nonsense, Tarver was 37/38 when he fought B-Hop and had only a few weeks to prepare, Tarver ain't ever been great anyway. Winky Wright was at light-heavyweight when he fought Hopkins and Wright is a natural middleweight whose best days are now behind him. That fight was also a lot closer than what the judges scorecards indicated.

I could argue for Hamed, Calzaghe and others if I wanted to but I don't want to waste my time on you further.

Saying Jermain Taylor had the balls to fight a prime Pavlik, so what ?? what are you implying there ?? Hatton had the balls to face a prime Mayweather so you're clearly bias with your argument.

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

For all you guys that have joined hopkins in denial manor, I have a new home for you right here.

Hopkins was trying to throw one shot at a time and trying to counter Joe all night but by like the 4th round, Joe had it figured out and made easy work of it. He had hopkins timing and everything else down.

Everyone wants to try to downplay it and say that Joe was throwing some wild punches but it was Bernard who was looking silly in the second half of the fight and being countered when he wasn't being swarmed.

Outclassed:
Joe was so masterful in solving hopkins. He came in not throwing his hardest punches because he knew bernanrd was putting his head down thus putting Joe in position to get his face busted up so he just threw half strength and and quickly covered his fave before hopkins head could hit it.

Embarassed:
He was in survival mode near the end against a guy who clearly wasn't going to stop coming to get him so he did what any other coward would do; try to get him DQ'ed or get points taken away. How classless was that on the part of bernard to fake it not once but twice? Max Kellerman called him on his bluff and showed him the replay and he still wouldn't confess. He actually had the nerve to say that it was right on the letters. Memo to bernard: Thats a legal punch stupid.

Exposed:
Now everyone got a chance to see how hopkins reacts when the tables are turned and all his dirty tactics don't amount to enough to slow the guy down. He chickens out. To top it off, he couldn't give the guy credit knowing he just beat him decisively.

Until you guys get over the facts, You can come in here and curse me out or send me negative rep or whatever other girly stuff you guys are into.

Get Well Soon!!!!

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well I neg repped you, Hopkins has been dominant for years, now aged 43 Joe decides he'll fight him? Suddenly Hopkins is exposed? For what, his age? As I wrote, you're a tool.

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The thread says it all. If you can't handle the truth dont read it again.

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

For all you guys that have joined hopkins in denial manor, I have a new home for you right here.

Hopkins was trying to throw one shot at a time and trying to counter Joe all night but by like the 4th round, Joe had it figured out and made easy work of it. He had hopkins timing and everything else down.

Everyone wants to try to downplay it and say that Joe was throwing some wild punches but it was Bernard who was looking silly in the second half of the fight and being countered when he wasn't being swarmed.

Outclassed:
Joe was so masterful in solving hopkins. He came in not throwing his hardest punches because he knew bernanrd was putting his head down thus putting Joe in position to get his face busted up so he just threw half strength and and quickly covered his fave before hopkins head could hit it.

Embarassed:
He was in survival mode near the end against a guy who clearly wasn't going to stop coming to get him so he did what any other coward would do; try to get him DQ'ed or get points taken away. How classless was that on the part of bernard to fake it not once but twice? Max Kellerman called him on his bluff and showed him the replay and he still wouldn't confess. He actually had the nerve to say that it was right on the letters. Memo to bernard: Thats a legal punch stupid.

Exposed:
Now everyone got a chance to see how hopkins reacts when the tables are turned and all his dirty tactics don't amount to enough to slow the guy down. He chickens out. To top it off, he couldn't give the guy credit knowing he just beat him decisively.

Until you guys get over the facts, You can come in here and curse me out or send me negative rep or whatever other girly stuff you guys are into.

Get Well Soon!!!!

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For someone who has stated he knows a lot about boxing you do come out with crap sometimes.

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Look man, I know your whole style. You say things that you think people wanna hear and are gonna rep you for. You're the clown of the forum now. So get back to work and entertain us knowledgeable boxing fans with your laughable thoughts.

I don't give a damn about rep or anything else but saying what it is. I don't let my love for any fighter blind me from seeing things for what really is going on, unlike you.

If hopkins didnt fight dirty, it would have been even easier and clearer. That guy is a turd and you're a damn fool for trying to make sense of his actions.

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Pretty much...

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

For all you guys that have joined hopkins in denial manor, I have a new home for you right here.

Hopkins was trying to throw one shot at a time and trying to counter Joe all night but by like the 4th round, Joe had it figured out and made easy work of it. He had hopkins timing and everything else down.

Everyone wants to try to downplay it and say that Joe was throwing some wild punches but it was Bernard who was looking silly in the second half of the fight and being countered when he wasn't being swarmed.

Outclassed:
Joe was so masterful in solving hopkins. He came in not throwing his hardest punches because he knew bernanrd was putting his head down thus putting Joe in position to get his face busted up so he just threw half strength and and quickly covered his fave before hopkins head could hit it.

Embarassed:
He was in survival mode near the end against a guy who clearly wasn't going to stop coming to get him so he did what any other coward would do; try to get him DQ'ed or get points taken away. How classless was that on the part of bernard to fake it not once but twice? Max Kellerman called him on his bluff and showed him the replay and he still wouldn't confess. He actually had the nerve to say that it was right on the letters. Memo to bernard: Thats a legal punch stupid.

Exposed:
Now everyone got a chance to see how hopkins reacts when the tables are turned and all his dirty tactics don't amount to enough to slow the guy down. He chickens out. To top it off, he couldn't give the guy credit knowing he just beat him decisively.

Until you guys get over the facts, You can come in here and curse me out or send me negative rep or whatever other girly stuff you guys are into.

Get Well Soon!!!!

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well I neg repped you, Hopkins has been dominant for years, now aged 43 Joe decides he'll fight him? Suddenly Hopkins is exposed? For what, his age? As I wrote, you're a tool.

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The thread says it all. If you can't handle the truth dont read it again.

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"go buy some glasses you bias idiot" ;D You're a tool. And you invited people to neg rep you so don't wet yourself when we do.