Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
Williams won because Tony has no fucking clue how to stop a cross with something other than his face.
Shane Mosely is a beast and he has never been stopped and he's only been hurt ONCE but the reason Cotto couldn't stop Shane is because Shane is a complete fighter with extremely fast hands and good sharp power and Shane has some decent defensive skill.
Cotto hurt Shane, he didn't wobble him or knock him down but he made him wince...he did more damage to Shane than a prime De la Hoya ever did.
Cintron had no defense and didn't box effectively. If Cintron could use a jab and box then we'd be talking Cotto-Cintron. Paul Williams has no defense either and used his punch output to beat Margarito.
Cotto is definently going to have to fight his ass off to beat Margarito...only thing is I see him actually doing it
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
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Jesse James
What happened against Williams was that Tony blocked or slipped a whole sh&*load of those punches. I'm not sure how you missed that. Williams won because he outworked and outthrew Tony, period. He actually spent too much of that fight playing defense and that's why he lost. All I gotta say is that if you think Cotto is just going to have a field day and land at will like he did with Gomez, you are sadly mistaken. Also, you keep saying that Cotto is going to KO Tony, then why couldn't he KO Mosley? He never even hurt Mosley and he landed on him all night. I'm not saying Cotto isn't capable of KOing him, but I think you're slightly overestimating him.
couldnt agree more with this post. Marg. was blocking so many of Williams shots looked like they were training with pads. I dont disagree with that decision for the same reason Jesse James states, he got out worked, but he has made adjustments to amend that problem since...big time. I'll say it again Cotto will not KO Tony, if anything it will be the other way around. And, while Cotto will punish Tony to the body, give him an opening for the uppercut and lights out Boriqua!!
Its gonna be the fight of the year no qualms about it. There may be bigger "events" in boxing (DLH V Mayrunner) but this is the fight of the year. its gonna be awesome.
Outcome: Cotto will win a decision and look like some of the guys he's disfigured or Margo. wins on a stoppage by cuts...I'll bet on it
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
...if anyone is going to get cut it's going to be Tony
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
Im hard pressed to recall a fight in which Margarito faded late? He gets stronger down the stretch,Might be a tad cliché but a good offense can be a great defense.Aside from a fight yeeaars ago with Soberanes in which he was dropped by a liver shot (And got up to win) his body looks tight.There will be much wagering on this one.
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
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Lyle
...if anyone is going to get cut it's going to be Tony
i dont ever recall a cut on that guys face.
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
Then you didn't see his last fight.....feel free to add to this thread after further research on Margarito
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Lyle
Then you didn't see his last fight.....feel free to add to this thread after further research on Margarito
that scratch?! please. And why do people have to act like dicks. Are you the end all and be all of boxing forums???
Just because you're a Cotto fan doesnt make Cotto the winner.
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
#1 It was a cut and it was in a bad place too.
#2 I don't see Cotto winning because I am a fan of his, I see Cotto winning because of his skills and Margarito giving up his natural physical advantages. I see Cotto being smart and good enough to take advantage of that.
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Lyle
#1 It was a cut and it was in a bad place too.
#2 I don't see Cotto winning because I am a fan of his, I see Cotto winning because of his skills and Margarito giving up his natural physical advantages. I see Cotto being smart and good enough to take advantage of that.
I can respect and maybe even concede your opinion, to tell you the truth I do see Cotto a winner here, but I hate how eveyone seems to think he's just gonna walk all over Marg. like he was Gomez or something. I'm getting too nationalistic I think. Again your reasons are justified on the fight, but still doesnt explain why you're a dick
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
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Lyle
Williams won because Tony has no fucking clue how to stop a cross with something other than his face.
You're wrong. I already stated that Tony blocked or slipped a lot of Williams' punches. You're either in denial, or you didn't see the fight.
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Shane Mosely is a beast and he has never been stopped and he's only been hurt ONCE but the reason Cotto couldn't stop Shane is because Shane is a complete fighter with extremely fast hands and good sharp power and Shane has some decent defensive skill.
Margarito is also a beast who has never been stopped. What does fast hands and power have to do with it when you're the one getting hit? It's not like Shane was preventing Cotto from hitting him. Shane was getting hit all night, but he has a solid chin, just like Tony.
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Cotto hurt Shane, he didn't wobble him or knock him down but he made him wince...he did more damage to Shane than a prime De la Hoya ever did.
Frankly irrelevant. Virtually all fighters have been made to wince at some point, it doesn't mean much.
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Cotto is definently going to have to fight his ass off to beat Margarito...only thing is I see him actually doing it
Fair enough. We shall see.
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
As long as Cotto uses his underated boxing skills and doesn't trade with Margarito as he did against Corley and Torres, then Cotto should win a lopsided decision. Cotto has the power to keep Margarito honest, but not to stop him from coming forward the entire fight. And Margarito will be the hardest puncher Cotto has faced, as well as the most dedicated body puncher Cotto has faced. Cotto better be in top shape and train for a marathon instead of a track meet.
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
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Rican
As long as Cotto uses his underated boxing skills and doesn't trade with Margarito as he did against Corley and Torres, then Cotto should win a lopsided decision. Cotto has the power to keep Margarito honest, but not to stop him from coming forward the entire fight. And Margarito will be the hardest puncher Cotto has faced, as well as the most dedicated body puncher Cotto has faced. Cotto better be in top shape and train for a marathon instead of a track meet.
thank god an objective Boriqua...reps on that.
Re: The more I think about Cotto-Margarito the more I see a mismatch
Margarito knows how to go to war with an opponent.
If it does turn into a brawl then margarito will always have a chance not in actually out boxing cotto but catching him with something special.
My fear for antonio though is that as he did with gomez, miguel may just choose to pick his opponent off and force antonio into chasing a man who hits much harder and more accurately than him.
either way i like 99% of pundits/fans alike have cotto winning!!
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Taeth
Obviously people know I don't like Margarito, but all that aside the more I see this fight in my mind, the more I see Cotto just picking him apart. I think Cotto being so much sharper and quicker he will have no problems with Margarito on inside besides he will be landing first everytime, and Margarito will be thrown off balance so he can't retaliate properly. On the outside I think things get worse for Margarito because Cotto has such a good jab and cross, and he has better defense and footwork. I could see Margarito potentially hurting Cotto and maybe KO'ing him, especially if COtto can't keep up the pace late like against MOsley, but I think Cotto will make it so lopsided the ref might decide to stop it. Also it should be interesting how MArgarito's tall, thin, body handles the body attack of Peurto Rico's finest
I don't see anyone other than PBF giving Cotto a heart check. Cotto's style is changing as we speak and it's changing for the better. He can box and bang well. This does not bode well for anybody that is not named PBF.
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hattonthehammer
Margarito knows how to go to war with an opponent.
If it does turn into a brawl then margarito will always have a chance not in actually out boxing cotto but catching him with something special.
My fear for antonio though is that as he did with gomez, miguel may just choose to pick his opponent off and force antonio into chasing a man who hits much harder and more accurately than him.
either way i like 99% of pundits/fans alike have cotto winning!!
I am praying for a PBF/Cotto fight. That is one that will settle alot of questions. Well, at least more than it would create. :)
