Re: The most disappointing letdown performance
I think easily Clinton Woods. He's the only one who didn't even give a good effort. Hatton has nothing to be ashamed of losing to Floyd, he fought hard.. Obviously Gavin Rees did his absolute best against Kotelnik, just a physical mismatch.. I haven't actually seen the Witter Bradley fight, but from what I've read Witter boxed well early on then got dropped and faded... but Clinton Woods did horribly against Tarver, with all the talk leading up to that fight you'd think at least he'd give it his all, but indeed he was for some reason in awe of Tarver. And I realize how pathetic that sounds. He had a very beatable fighter in front of him imo... Maybe he couldn't have possibly beaten Tarver even if he pressed harder... Tarver is a good counter puncher. But it was still really a non effort from Woods.
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Clinton Woods was never going to beat Tarver. You were delusional if your though so, the same way you were delusional if you expected Hatton to beat Floyd. Hoped, fine. I hoped hatton would win, too, but I expected he would lose. People on this forum hate Tarver and underrate him so badly that you can't see the forest for the trees. Tarver has lost to 4 fighters - of them two hall of famers, Glen Johnson, and early in his career a very good fighter Eric Harding. He avenged all his loses except for Hopkins. Woods didn't put in a good effort? Bull. He was in against a better fighter and Tarver's counterpunching had a lot to do with Woods not letting his hands go more.
My biggest letdowns:
Margarito vs Williams - slow start, fought stupid, should have won.
Hagler vs Leonard - fought stupid and let Leonard use his jedi mind tricks on the judges. I had it for Hagler, but the loss was his fault for letting it be that close.
Trinidad vs Oscar - Trinidad won, but I didn't want him to win like that.
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Clinton Woods was never going to beat Tarver. You were delusional if your though so, the same way you were delusional if you expected Hatton to beat Floyd. Hoped, fine. I hoped hatton would win, too, but I expected he would lose. People on this forum hate Tarver and underrate him so badly that you can't see the forest for the trees. Tarver has lost to 4 fighters - of them two hall of famers, Glen Johnson, and early in his career a very good fighter Eric Harding. He avenged all his loses except for Hopkins. Woods didn't put in a good effort? Bull. He was in against a better fighter and Tarver's counterpunching had a lot to do with Woods not letting his hands go more.
Tarver is 39. He looked crap beating Roy 3rd fight. Decided to try his hand in hollywood. Looked even more crap losing to Hopkins. Then looked average/crap going through the motions against Muriqi and Santiago.
Woods had been on a roll showing the best form of his life. They have similar form with Glen Johnson.
Picking Woods to beat an old, seemingly past it Tarver is hardly comparable to picking Hatton against the P4P best fighter in the world. ;)
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Clinton Woods was never going to beat Tarver. You were delusional if your though so, the same way you were delusional if you expected Hatton to beat Floyd. Hoped, fine. I hoped hatton would win, too, but I expected he would lose. People on this forum hate Tarver and underrate him so badly that you can't see the forest for the trees. Tarver has lost to 4 fighters - of them two hall of famers, Glen Johnson, and early in his career a very good fighter Eric Harding. He avenged all his loses except for Hopkins. Woods didn't put in a good effort? Bull. He was in against a better fighter and Tarver's counterpunching had a lot to do with Woods not letting his hands go more.
Tarver is 39. He looked crap beating Roy 3rd fight. Decided to try his hand in hollywood. Looked even more crap losing to Hopkins. Then looked average/crap going through the motions against Muriqi and Santiago.
Woods had been on a roll showing the best form of his life. They have similar form with Glen Johnson.
Picking Woods to beat an old, seemingly past it Tarver is hardly comparable to picking Hatton against the P4P best fighter in the world. ;)
I thought he looked pretty good in last Jones fight. Good enough to beat him clearly, and he nearly knocked him out of the ring. Hopkins fought one of the best fights of his career against Tarver. Hopkins was in superb condition, and Tarver was coming down from Mason Dixon. Yeah, he looked like crap against Muriqi, but he looked much better against Santiago.
Woods was on a "roll" but some of that roll had to do with fighting in his own backyard. I think Mickey Vann had the right score in the Johnson fight. Woods is also no spring chicken.
You're right though, it was delusional to think Hatton would beat Mayweather. It was simply optimistic to think Woods would beat Tarver.
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No one should be voting for Hatton here.
He actually did better than most people would have expected and managed to win 2 rounds or so.
I'm with you. Hatton went out on his shield. He did ok the first half of the fight and he gave PBF problems. It was exciting and an all out fight. I actually enjoyed a PBF fight. Hatton made me enjoy watching a fight with a guy I can't stand or usually stand watching. Hatton could have easily let off the gas and cruised to a decision loss. He was trying to win and forced PBF to fight. If PBF let Zab off the hook, he would have let Hatton. Floyd comes to win boxing matches, not fights. He would've been content to cruise to a unanimous decision. Ricky wouldn't let him, and he got ko'd for it. Too bad, but not a let down of a fight or effort. Just a let down if you really thought Hatton was invincible.
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Clinton Woods was never going to beat Tarver. You were delusional if your though so, the same way you were delusional if you expected Hatton to beat Floyd. Hoped, fine. I hoped hatton would win, too, but I expected he would lose. People on this forum hate Tarver and underrate him so badly that you can't see the forest for the trees. Tarver has lost to 4 fighters - of them two hall of famers, Glen Johnson, and early in his career a very good fighter Eric Harding. He avenged all his loses except for Hopkins. Woods didn't put in a good effort? Bull. He was in against a better fighter and Tarver's counterpunching had a lot to do with Woods not letting his hands go more.
Tarver is 39. He looked crap beating Roy 3rd fight. Decided to try his hand in hollywood. Looked even more crap losing to Hopkins. Then looked average/crap going through the motions against Muriqi and Santiago.
Woods had been on a roll showing the best form of his life. They have similar form with Glen Johnson.
Picking Woods to beat an old, seemingly past it Tarver is hardly comparable to picking Hatton against the P4P best fighter in the world. ;)
I thought he looked pretty good in last Jones fight. Good enough to beat him clearly, and he nearly knocked him out of the ring. Hopkins fought one of the best fights of his career against Tarver. Hopkins was in superb condition, and Tarver was coming down from Mason Dixon. Yeah, he looked like crap against Muriqi, but he looked much better against Santiago.
Woods was on a "roll" but some of that roll had to do with fighting in his own backyard. I think Mickey Vann had the right score in the Johnson fight. Woods is also no spring chicken.
You're right though, it was delusional to think Hatton would beat Mayweather. It was simply optimistic to think Woods would beat Tarver.
No way did Tarver look good in the rubber match with Jones. He was 100% there for the taking, as he was in the Muriqi fight.. I didn't see him fight Santiago, so I guess that's part of the reason I gave Woods a good shot to beat him. Even based on that fight though, Woods did poorly, and should've done more.
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Tarver is 39. He looked crap beating Roy 3rd fight. Decided to try his hand in hollywood. Looked even more crap losing to Hopkins. Then looked average/crap going through the motions against Muriqi and Santiago.
Woods had been on a roll showing the best form of his life. They have similar form with Glen Johnson.
Picking Woods to beat an old, seemingly past it Tarver is hardly comparable to picking Hatton against the P4P best fighter in the world. ;)
I thought he looked pretty good in last Jones fight. Good enough to beat him clearly, and he nearly knocked him out of the ring. Hopkins fought one of the best fights of his career against Tarver. Hopkins was in superb condition, and Tarver was coming down from Mason Dixon. Yeah, he looked like crap against Muriqi, but he looked much better against Santiago.
Woods was on a "roll" but some of that roll had to do with fighting in his own backyard. I think Mickey Vann had the right score in the Johnson fight. Woods is also no spring chicken.
You're right though, it was delusional to think Hatton would beat Mayweather. It was simply optimistic to think Woods would beat Tarver.
No way did Tarver look good in the rubber match with Jones.
He was 100% there for the taking, as he was in the Muriqi fight.. I didn't see him fight Santiago, so I guess that's part of the reason I gave Woods a good shot to beat him. Even based on that fight though, Woods did poorly, and should've done more.
We saw that vs Hopkins that Tarver can cave in mentally under pressure but Woods never tried .
The order of the letdowns for me is as follows .
1. Woods Tarver - Maybe cuz I got my prediction wrong but I expected Woods to win on points having fought hard and earnt it . If he got well beaten trying then fair enough but I didnt see him try hard and thats why i think it was the biggest letdown
2. Witter vs Bradley - Witter was a huge odds on and messed up . He wasnt 100% focused on this task and he let himself down aswel as everyone else.
3 . Hatton vs Floyd - He was fighting the best so expectations shouldnt have been too high but I did expect him to see out 12 rounds. To be knocked out the way he was by a light hitter was abit disapointing cuz Floyd only really knocks out the chinny fighters .
4 . Rees - Kotelnick - To me this wasnt a disapointment at all . Rees was out his depth yet fought his heart out . He had the heart but not the ability . If only Woods showed some of his passion and commitment .
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Tarver didn't look his best in Roy III, but I think it's wrong conventional wisdom that he was there for the taking. He did what he needed to do to win. You're right, Tarver did come apart mentally against Hopkins. In hindsight, Hopkins was the worst possible matchup for Tarver. Hopkins has great right cross, the most effect punch against him, and Tarver likes to fight in spurts, kind of like Hopkins. The problem is that nobody is better at fighting in spurts than Hopkins, and like I said before, Hopkins fought an amazing fight, one of the best of his career.
I guess I've never rated Woods that highly. He's good fighter, but he is limited, skill-wise. Great heart, nice guy.
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Margarito looked poor v Williams imo.
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Hatton was in with the best in the world i wouldnt say it was a let down he tried his heart out leat he went out rabbit punching and playing grab ass unlike,Woods he looked like he didnt wanna be in the ring,i think he forgot he was in a boxing match cause he never through the punches he froze in the shot light.
Fixed.
Also, while I do compliment Hatton on having the balls to step into the ring with a fighter of Mayweathers calibur, he deserved the ass whipping he got for:
A.) Fighting like a bitch.
B.) Fighting Mayweather to begin with.
C.) Being from the U.K.
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Hatton's preformance was definitely HUGE let down. Whilst I didn't think he would win, I thought he would win more than 2 rounds. Especially taking into account all the build up etc.
What was even more dissappointing was he didn't actually try to do anything other than hit hold Floyd. I mean NOTHING. He just wanted to get close,hold,hit,rinse,repeat,yet he got so close,he smothered his punches like an amatuer and was outmuscled. It was a poor poor performance.And I did NOT expect to see him get KTFO by Floyd either. So yeah,it was a poor performance.:p
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Coming off british letdowns anyone remember that Boom Boom mancini i think his name was. He was on the undercard of Oscar Mayweather 1. Was really hyped up and got sparked in one round in a champion ship fight. Just don't have a clear memory of it.Rep to anyone who remember
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Coming off british letdowns anyone remember that Boom Boom mancini i think his name was. He was on the undercard of Oscar Mayweather 1. Was really hyped up and got sparked in one round in a champion ship fight. Just don't have a clear memory of it.Rep to anyone who remember
You mean Rey Bautista.
Ponce de Leon caned him in a round (Ponce was the fav). He's only young though - 20?
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Coming off british letdowns anyone remember that Boom Boom mancini i think his name was. He was on the undercard of Oscar Mayweather 1. Was really hyped up and got sparked in one round in a champion ship fight. Just don't have a clear memory of it.Rep to anyone who remember
You mean Rey Bautista.
Ponce de Leon caned him in a round (Ponce was the fav). He's only young though - 20?
Yeh that's the guy. Yeah he was only young but i remember they did a real hype job on him. Rep you once ive spread it to enough people
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Coming off british letdowns anyone remember that Boom Boom mancini i think his name was. He was on the undercard of Oscar Mayweather 1. Was really hyped up and got sparked in one round in a champion ship fight. Just don't have a clear memory of it.Rep to anyone who remember
You mean Rey Bautista.
Ponce de Leon caned him in a round (Ponce was the fav). He's only young though - 20?
Yea he is 21 now he has rattled off 2 more wins so good for him i like people coming back from bad loss, but he won't ever be a top player.
