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Not even the best of his era. He fought in the same time as Pac/Barrerra/Morales/Winky/B-Hop/Calzaghe/Roy Jones is still fighting.. He will fade in time. He is no Winky. He is no Pac. Time doesn't favor those who never fought real adversarial fights.
I only got one problem with this post. Yes he was the WW champ at a time when it was the hottest division in boxing. But it was not so when he won it. When he won the title it was possibly one of the weakest divisions in the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Whilst I do respect your point and I commend you for mentioning Barrera Morales & Co. I have to take issue with this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
And even more unfortunately Booze, the part I must take issue with is the part about your favourite fighter.
Winky, although a massive talent and fantastic fighter, will not be remebered to be among this era's greatest.
Overshadowed by more flambuoyant, extroverted and aggresive fighters, Winky is not helped by the fact that he missed out on many fights because fighters hesitated in fighting him.
I can draw paralels between him and Charley Burley, perhaps even Sam Langford....They could all be viewed as much greater if they were not avoided.
Unfortunately the fact remains. Winky will not be recognised as a great fighter. He will be the enigma of the 90's and 00's.
I have an honest and legit question, when is the last time (or should I say at what time) can anyone really say that they were looking forward to a Mayweather fight because of Mayweather?
In that aspect I mean looking forward to the fight because they can honestly say they knew Mayweather himself was going to make an exciting bout?
The MW/DLH fight was more of interest due to DLH, MW/Hatton was a draw because of Hatton, same as the Gatti fight. I believe for the Mayweather/Baldomir fight they gave out commemetorive (OK I can't spell that word lol) pillows and it was the only fight to have recliner chairs at ringside.
Floyd really was not an exciting fighter, a great fighter yes but great and exciting are two different things.
Someone please tell me what are we missing with him gone? Please I am curious? He sat on his title he fought weak opposition for the better half of his career and ended it fighting a smaller man.
If you ask me all he did was hold up a lot of good fights at WW
Graet fighter, great skills.
I don't like his attitude though. I also don't know why he wont face a legitimate threat in Miguel Cotto.
As much as I love Mayweather there isn't anything I could disagree with there. Mayweather seemed consumed with legacy and while I respect any fighter for retiring whenever they feel considering what they do for a living, it leaves a smudge on his legacy in my mind. PBF didin't need to take on every single stud in the division because it's like whack-a-mole; every time you hit one another pops up. But if he'd fought at least 1 that would have been something to hang his hat on.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
That's easy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Put Em' Up
Gatti - no one thought Gatti had a chance unless you buy into great white hype. I wanted to see what PBF would do to him.
Judah - say what you want about Judah being inconsistent, when the guy is focused he's one of the most dangerous guys in the division and he proved it for four rounds. I've never considered buying a PPV for Zab alone, Mayweather was the reason.
Hatton - again, didn't really think he had a chance and it makes the top ten FOTY list in my book. And I wanted to see what PBF would do to him.
De La Hoya - I haven't cared to see a DLH fight since he got beat up by Hopkins. I'm not some fan who'll eat up any crap Oscar poops out, but when this was set I was eager for it.
What about when you're ill?Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
If Cotto loses to Margarito he will never get a fight with Mayweather, i think people need to wait and see who wins between Cotto and Margarito first then they have a better case regarding Cotto vs Mayweather situation. And i know this sounds ridiculous but what if Mayweather loses to ODLH ?? i think thats very unlikely but who knows ??Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
You know Mayweather retired right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBIf Cotto loses to Margarito he will never get a fight with Mayweather, i think people need to wait and see who wins between Cotto and Margarito first then they have a better case regarding Cotto vs Mayweather situation. And i know this sounds ridiculous but what if Mayweather loses to ODLH ?? i think thats very unlikely but who knows ??Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Well thats what i heard but i thought he still agreed with a fight against ODLH ?? or am i behind in current boxing news :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by amatYou know Mayweather retired right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBIf Cotto loses to Margarito he will never get a fight with Mayweather, i think people need to wait and see who wins between Cotto and Margarito first then they have a better case regarding Cotto vs Mayweather situation. And i know this sounds ridiculous but what if Mayweather loses to ODLH ?? i think thats very unlikely but who knows ??Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Mayweather pulled out ICB. he had a retirement party in Grand Rapids I read as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBIf Cotto loses to Margarito he will never get a fight with Mayweather, i think people need to wait and see who wins between Cotto and Margarito first then they have a better case regarding Cotto vs Mayweather situation. And i know this sounds ridiculous but what if Mayweather loses to ODLH ?? i think thats very unlikely but who knows ??Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
There's no way that he will stay retired. After Cotto beats Tony he will come out and face Cotto in a blockbuster. Then there will be no one left for him to face and if he wins he will then go down as an all time great.
Ahh well that it is a shame hopefully he comes out of retirement for Cotto vs Margarito winner. Most boxing fans wern't looking forward to ODLH vs Mayweather 2 anyhow so no real loss there.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeMayweather pulled out ICB. he had a retirement party in Grand Rapids I read as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBIf Cotto loses to Margarito he will never get a fight with Mayweather, i think people need to wait and see who wins between Cotto and Margarito first then they have a better case regarding Cotto vs Mayweather situation. And i know this sounds ridiculous but what if Mayweather loses to ODLH ?? i think thats very unlikely but who knows ??Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
i fuckin hate maywetather he a dickhead him and hopkines i meet them both