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Without calling it a 'Duck' both Mosley and De La Hoya side stepped Tszyu in the 90's. DLH was at 140 in 96' while Tszyu was IBF champ (no fight?)and Mosley skips 140lb altogether and fights Rivera and Wise before DLH in 2000?
mmmm.....I often wonder why? Was it ducking him? maybe they just forgot who he was or didn't want to know who he was!
Mayweather retiring a few months before Cotto will unify WW division.
Tired of boxing my ass.Who's he kidding.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
or Lewis ducking a rematch with Vitali, or a fight with Wladimir...but hey that ended up for the best, cause then Wladimir would have never gotten Emanuel Steward ;) lolQuote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Thats a bit unfair to Lewis who at that stage of his carrer had beaten the best around and himself was past his best.
I think Lewis made the right move there.;)
and early years of ales;537523]or Lewis ducking a rematch with Vitali, or a fight with Wladimir...but hey that ended up for the best, cause then Wladimir would have never gotten Emanuel Steward ;) lol[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis did not duck Vitaly. He retired because he knew it was time. You are talking about a man who faced and beat every heavyweight there was to face and beat during the 1990's and early 2000's. Something no other heavyweight can claim not even Holyfield.
Lewis also got the win in their bout so I don't understand where this comes from.
A champion gives a challenger a shot at the title, the challenger makes it a hard tough fight. The champion comes out on top. Just because the challenger makes it a tough fight he deserves a rematch and if he does not get one he is being ducked? The challenger should give the champion a hard fight. It is his job, if he does not give one then he is not world class or at least championship material.
If the champion walks over the guy he fought pushovers, if he has a tough fight then he is shot or lucky to keep his belt.
Can't be both way's my man. Vitaly got his shot and he lost regardless on how well he did. Lewis owed him nothing.
Where did you get the $5 million figure from?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
The reports I've read, from people whom I consider reliable (and some who despise Mayweather), had it at the same amount, $8 mil.
De La Hoya was a much bigger payday, and considered by most a bigger challenge as well for Shane.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Tszyu fought on the undercard of DLH-Gonzalez in January 1997, DH's last fight @ 140. A build-up for a future fight between the two? Maybe. Tszyu and Mas had that one-round no-contest, which doesn't help the build-up. A month after DLH fought Whitaker, Tszyu lost to Phillips.
Right after DLH-Whitaker, Arum announced DLH's future matchups. I don't think Tszyu was mentioned, maybe there was no intention from Arum for a DLH-Tszyu match, but I don't remember for sure.
The Phillips loss at 140lb was one month after DLH V Whitaker at 147lb, the Mas fight was a demolition and wrongly called a ND, i think DLH saw this as a real threat to his ultimate goal of being WW champ and he challenged an aging Whitaker instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thread StealerDe La Hoya was a much bigger payday, and considered by most a bigger challenge as well for Shane.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Tszyu fought on the undercard of DLH-Gonzalez in January 1997, DH's last fight @ 140. A build-up for a future fight between the two? Maybe. Tszyu and Mas had that one-round no-contest, which doesn't help the build-up. A month after DLH fought Whitaker, Tszyu lost to Phillips.
Right after DLH-Whitaker, Arum announced DLH's future matchups. I don't think Tszyu was mentioned, maybe there was no intention from Arum for a DLH-Tszyu match, but I don't remember for sure.