Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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ICB
Ono you make some good points but i have a different way of thinking to you, yes he is young and yes he has only had 18 pro fights, but don't you find it worrying he has already been floored 3 times in his career ?? against fighter's who are either below average with no punching power or who are only good at domestic level aka Gomez. If you are a good upcoming prospect with a good future ahead of you your supposed to be taking apart fighters like Gomez, Limond, etc. And age isn't that much of a factor didn't Floyd Mayweather Jr win a world title when he just turned 21 with only 17 pro fights at the time ??
Khan is talking about fighting for world title soon so of course people are going to say he will fail at world stage after seeing Khan struggle against fighters who shouldn't of troubled him plus these are fighters with no punching power except Gomez who is a decent puncher but in no way shape or form is he a devastating puncher. Plus i don't think Khan has really stepped up much in class, Gomez was a well chosen opponent and you know it Ono. Khan has showed good recovery skills but thats because his opponents have never really took advantage of the situation, do you really think a world class fighter like Casamayor wouldn't finish Khan off if he got him in trouble ?? or Diaz, or Pacquiao etc. Khan has some good qualites about him but he also has some very bad ones as well like dropping his hands after throwing combinations, that would be disaster against excellent counter punchers like Marquez, Guzman, Campbell, Casamayor.
Plus his chin is also very suspect IMO the sad thing is i doubt Warren will get Khan to step up in class for quite sometime so none of our questions will be answered for quite sometime, but i also didn't think Khan dealt well with getting hit to the body, as a boxer myself if you get hurt to the body which i have before. You bite down on your mouthpiece and block the pain out you don't show any weakness to your opponent which Khan did, and a world class fighter would of finished him off right there and then, one of the most important things when your in the ring is to have a poker face and never let your opponent think he has the upper hand. But like i said we will see i honestly think he will fail at the world stage but lets hopefully all are question's can be answered soon.
That's the thing ICE, i saw the danger in this fight as soon as it was announced.
I was laughed at on here for saying it was a danger fight. I was surprised Warren would put Kahn in with Gomez. He was always on a hiding to nothing.
I suppose it all depends on how you view Kahn at this stage of his development. He's not ready for world level yet. I'm still not sure about his chin. Think Saturday was more of a balance issue.
He looks vulnerable at times aswell but i still feel he has boundless potential. I think if Warren holds back with him for a few years we will have a special fighter.
He needs to stop with the world title talk tho. It's irritating.
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Ono you make some good points but i have a different way of thinking to you, yes he is young and yes he has only had 18 pro fights, but don't you find it worrying he has already been floored 3 times in his career ?? against fighter's who are either below average with no punching power or who are only good at domestic level aka Gomez. If you are a good upcoming prospect with a good future ahead of you your supposed to be taking apart fighters like Gomez, Limond, etc. And age isn't that much of a factor didn't Floyd Mayweather Jr win a world title when he just turned 21 with only 17 pro fights at the time ??
Khan is talking about fighting for world title soon so of course people are going to say he will fail at world stage after seeing Khan struggle against fighters who shouldn't of troubled him plus these are fighters with no punching power except Gomez who is a decent puncher but in no way shape or form is he a devastating puncher. Plus i don't think Khan has really stepped up much in class, Gomez was a well chosen opponent and you know it Ono. Khan has showed good recovery skills but thats because his opponents have never really took advantage of the situation, do you really think a world class fighter like Casamayor wouldn't finish Khan off if he got him in trouble ?? or Diaz, or Pacquiao etc. Khan has some good qualites about him but he also has some very bad ones as well like dropping his hands after throwing combinations, that would be disaster against excellent counter punchers like Marquez, Guzman, Campbell, Casamayor.
Plus his chin is also very suspect IMO the sad thing is i doubt Warren will get Khan to step up in class for quite sometime so none of our questions will be answered for quite sometime, but i also didn't think Khan dealt well with getting hit to the body, as a boxer myself if you get hurt to the body which i have before. You bite down on your mouthpiece and block the pain out you don't show any weakness to your opponent which Khan did, and a world class fighter would of finished him off right there and then, one of the most important things when your in the ring is to have a poker face and never let your opponent think he has the upper hand. But like i said we will see i honestly think he will fail at the world stage but lets hopefully all are question's can be answered soon.
That's the thing ICE, i saw the danger in this fight as soon as it was announced.
I was laughed at on here for saying it was a danger fight. I was surprised Warren would put Kahn in with Gomez. He was always on a hiding to nothing.
I suppose it all depends on how you view Kahn at this stage of his development. He's not ready for world level yet.
I'm still not sure about his chin. Think Saturday was more of a balance issue.
He looks vulnerable at times aswell but i still feel he has boundless potential. I think if Warren holds back with him for a few years we will have a special fighter.
He needs to stop with the world title talk tho. It's irritating.
;D Behave.
Khan SHOULD NOT have had any trouble, at this stage, with a past his best three round fighter like Gomez.
Unfortunately, considering Khan's ultra fragile punch resistance, he isn't learning fast enough to stop the inevitable KO loss coming his way.
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
Khan will learn alot from this fight alltho Gomez isnt world class,he has a different style of fighting that Khan has never been in with a pressure fighter thats wants to bully you into the ropes. I dont think he was hurt badly by the head shot that had him down he was of balance abit aswell.He was very badly hurt by the body shot if he got hit there again in the same round i think it would of been over.He showed he has a great heart and speed that is dazling but on the negative side his chin is suspect and he lacks experience in decent opposition he isnt ready for world level yet like he says he is.
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Ono you make some good points but i have a different way of thinking to you, yes he is young and yes he has only had 18 pro fights, but don't you find it worrying he has already been floored 3 times in his career ?? against fighter's who are either below average with no punching power or who are only good at domestic level aka Gomez. If you are a good upcoming prospect with a good future ahead of you your supposed to be taking apart fighters like Gomez, Limond, etc. And age isn't that much of a factor didn't Floyd Mayweather Jr win a world title when he just turned 21 with only 17 pro fights at the time ??
Khan is talking about fighting for world title soon so of course people are going to say he will fail at world stage after seeing Khan struggle against fighters who shouldn't of troubled him plus these are fighters with no punching power except Gomez who is a decent puncher but in no way shape or form is he a devastating puncher. Plus i don't think Khan has really stepped up much in class, Gomez was a well chosen opponent and you know it Ono. Khan has showed good recovery skills but thats because his opponents have never really took advantage of the situation, do you really think a world class fighter like Casamayor wouldn't finish Khan off if he got him in trouble ?? or Diaz, or Pacquiao etc. Khan has some good qualites about him but he also has some very bad ones as well like dropping his hands after throwing combinations, that would be disaster against excellent counter punchers like Marquez, Guzman, Campbell, Casamayor.
Plus his chin is also very suspect IMO the sad thing is i doubt Warren will get Khan to step up in class for quite sometime so none of our questions will be answered for quite sometime, but i also didn't think Khan dealt well with getting hit to the body, as a boxer myself if you get hurt to the body which i have before. You bite down on your mouthpiece and block the pain out you don't show any weakness to your opponent which Khan did, and a world class fighter would of finished him off right there and then, one of the most important things when your in the ring is to have a poker face and never let your opponent think he has the upper hand. But like i said we will see i honestly think he will fail at the world stage but lets hopefully all are question's can be answered soon.
That's the thing ICE, i saw the danger in this fight as soon as it was announced.
I was laughed at on here for saying it was a danger fight. I was surprised Warren would put Kahn in with Gomez. He was always on a hiding to nothing.
I suppose it all depends on how you view Kahn at this stage of his development. He's not ready for world level yet.
I'm still not sure about his chin. Think Saturday was more of a balance issue.
He looks vulnerable at times aswell but i still feel he has boundless potential. I think if Warren holds back with him for a few years we will have a special fighter.
He needs to stop with the world title talk tho. It's irritating.
;D Behave.
Khan SHOULD NOT have had any trouble, at this stage, with a past his best three round fighter like Gomez.
Unfortunately, considering Khan's ultra fragile punch resistance, he isn't learning fast enough to stop the inevitable KO loss coming his way.
And you accused me of buying into the nonsense when i said Gomez would be a dangerous opponent. ;D
I think he'll end up on his arse quite a lot throghout his career. Well he has already.
His vulnerability worries me, because he should be able to deal with guys like Gomez quite easily.
He has a lot to learn. But he'll still be a world champion.
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ono
That's the thing ICE, i saw the danger in this fight as soon as it was announced.
I was laughed at on here for saying it was a danger fight. I was surprised Warren would put Kahn in with Gomez. He was always on a hiding to nothing.
I suppose it all depends on how you view Kahn at this stage of his development. He's not ready for world level yet. I'm still not sure about his chin. Think Saturday was more of a balance issue.
He looks vulnerable at times aswell but i still feel he has boundless potential. I think if Warren holds back with him for a few years we will have a special fighter.
He needs to stop with the world title talk tho. It's irritating.
;D Behave.
Khan SHOULD NOT have had any trouble, at this stage, with a past his best three round fighter like Gomez.
Unfortunately, considering Khan's ultra fragile punch resistance, he isn't learning fast enough to stop the inevitable KO loss coming his way.
And you accused me of buying into the nonsense when i said Gomez would be a dangerous opponent. ;D
I think he'll end up on his arse quite a lot throghout his career. Well he has already.
His vulnerability worries me, because he should be able to deal with guys like Gomez quite easily.
He has a lot to learn. But he'll still be a world champion.
What? :-\
You think the fragile one should be able to deal with Gomez easily but also thought Gomez was a tough test beforehand? ;D
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Fenster
;D Behave.
Khan SHOULD NOT have had any trouble, at this stage, with a past his best three round fighter like Gomez.
Unfortunately, considering Khan's ultra fragile punch resistance, he isn't learning fast enough to stop the inevitable KO loss coming his way.
And you accused me of buying into the nonsense when i said Gomez would be a dangerous opponent. ;D
I think he'll end up on his arse quite a lot throghout his career. Well he has already.
His vulnerability worries me, because he should be able to deal with guys like Gomez quite easily.
He has a lot to learn. But he'll still be a world champion.
What? :-\
You think the fragile one should be able to deal with Gomez easily but also thought Gomez was a tough test beforehand? ;D
I love your antagonism Fenster :)
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
I've always thought he comes unglued too easily, gets too sloppy. To be fair I haven't seen him as much as most of you.
By the way was the ref letting Khan push Gomez off of him like that the whole fight :confused: Must have done it six times in the fifth round alone and not a single warning, absolutely hilarious reffing.
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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ono
And you accused me of buying into the nonsense when i said Gomez would be a dangerous opponent. ;D
I think he'll end up on his arse quite a lot throghout his career. Well he has already.
His vulnerability worries me, because he should be able to deal with guys like Gomez quite easily.
He has a lot to learn. But he'll still be a world champion.
What? :-\
You think the fragile one should be able to deal with Gomez easily but also thought Gomez was a tough test beforehand? ;D
I love your antagonism Fenster :)
What? :-\
I'm not so bad, surely. I can argue my opinion that's all. And always in a freindly way. Although I guess my text can sometimes read a bit blunt. :-\
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
;D Behave.
Khan SHOULD NOT have had any trouble, at this stage, with a past his best three round fighter like Gomez.
Unfortunately, considering Khan's ultra fragile punch resistance, he isn't learning fast enough to stop the inevitable KO loss coming his way.
And you accused me of buying into the nonsense when i said Gomez would be a dangerous opponent. ;D
I think he'll end up on his arse quite a lot throghout his career. Well he has already.
His vulnerability worries me, because he should be able to deal with guys like Gomez quite easily.
He has a lot to learn. But he'll still be a world champion.
What? :-\
You think the fragile one should be able to deal with Gomez easily but also thought Gomez was a tough test beforehand? ;D
Well an in all he should be able to dispose of fighters of Gomez's ability.
Which he did....in the end.
I didn't think it was a necessarily tough test, just a dangerous hiding to nothing. ;D
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ono
And you accused me of buying into the nonsense when i said Gomez would be a dangerous opponent. ;D
I think he'll end up on his arse quite a lot throghout his career. Well he has already.
His vulnerability worries me, because he should be able to deal with guys like Gomez quite easily.
He has a lot to learn. But he'll still be a world champion.
What? :-\
You think the fragile one should be able to deal with Gomez easily but also thought Gomez was a tough test beforehand? ;D
Well an in all he should be able to dispose of fighters of Gomez's ability.
Which he did....in the end.
I didn't think it was a necessarily tough test, just a dangerous hiding to nothing. ;D
Jesus we keep grinning at eachother like maniacs....
;D
see
Re: Khan is going to fail at top level
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
What? :-\
You think the fragile one should be able to deal with Gomez easily but also thought Gomez was a tough test beforehand? ;D
I love your antagonism Fenster :)
What? :-\
I'm not so bad, surely. I can argue my opinion that's all. And always in a freindly way. Although I guess my text can sometimes read a bit blunt. :-\
He's a friendly poster is Fenster.
And a very valuable member of the old guard!
:cool:
