Re: Mayweather vs Mosley at Lightweight
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Mayweather. Mosley at LW had either equal or greater speed and Mayweather has shown he knows how to deal with a faster fighter. PBF was the epitome of composure while Mosley was frustratable as evidenced in both Wright fights and the 2nd Forrest fight. There wouldn't be a KO considering both fighters also had phenomenal chins, but i see Mayweather taking less damage and doing a little more to get the win.
I'm not picking your post apart man, but the Wright and Forrest fights were at 147 and 154 if I'm not mistaken.
I feel in those fights he was frustrated by the lack of effect his power boxing had. At lightweight he just powered on.
Yes but they are also some of the first people who actually tried to outbox Shane aside from Oscar who was successful early in the fight with Shane.
Shane was good at adapting, and he was a monster at lightweight but he wasn't invulnerable, he had flaws as the Holiday fight showed, its more there wasnt really anyone at lightweight to challenge him but thats not his fault.
But I don't think it would be an easy fight either way. The thing is Shane's style never changed, so I have no problem saying that if even Forrest was a lightweight he would have beaten shane the same way.
When a bigger man has good boxing skills, his skills are multiplied by his size advantage. It's a huge deal when a fighter moves up a division and his success, its not easily done!
Shane had more than a couple of flaws at Lightweight, but his physicality ensured that no Lightweight could touch him.
At Lightweight he had the perfect physical make up.
Re: Mayweather vs Mosley at Lightweight
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Mayweather. Mosley at LW had either equal or greater speed and Mayweather has shown he knows how to deal with a faster fighter. PBF was the epitome of composure while Mosley was frustratable as evidenced in both Wright fights and the 2nd Forrest fight. There wouldn't be a KO considering both fighters also had phenomenal chins, but i see Mayweather taking less damage and doing a little more to get the win.
I'm not picking your post apart man, but the Wright and Forrest fights were at 147 and 154 if I'm not mistaken.
I feel in those fights he was frustrated by the lack of effect his power boxing had. At lightweight he just powered on.
I still say Mayweather. Floyd was no slouch either at lightweight. He has always had the ability to adjust, as evidenced by the 2nd Castillo fight at lightweight. Shane is the same throughout the fight and while that was more than enough for just about everyone he's faced, someone who could either top that or adjust to it had his number. And it's not about the weight- at any class Winky and Vernon would have beat Shane. I'm not saying it would have been a walk in the park, but PBF would have pulled it out.
Re: Mayweather vs Mosley at Lightweight
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Mayweather. Mosley at LW had either equal or greater speed and Mayweather has shown he knows how to deal with a faster fighter. PBF was the epitome of composure while Mosley was frustratable as evidenced in both Wright fights and the 2nd Forrest fight. There wouldn't be a KO considering both fighters also had phenomenal chins, but i see Mayweather taking less damage and doing a little more to get the win.
I'm not picking your post apart man, but the Wright and Forrest fights were at 147 and 154 if I'm not mistaken.
I feel in those fights he was frustrated by the lack of effect his power boxing had. At lightweight he just powered on.
I still say Mayweather. Floyd was no slouch either at lightweight. He has always had the ability to adjust, as evidenced by the 2nd Castillo fight at lightweight. Shane is the same throughout the fight and while that was more than enough for just about everyone he's faced, someone who could either top that or adjust to it had his number. And it's not about the weight- at any class Winky and Vernon would have beat Shane. I'm not saying it would have been a walk in the park, but PBF would have pulled it out.
Floyd was a beautiful fighter at Super feather, his stay at Lightweight was excellent also.
I just watched Mosely vs. Morales again last night at 135. Mosely got stronger as the bout went on and displayed iron chin and great speed.
I still believe at 135 he pulls out a UD over Mayweather, but gets beaten by Mayweather at 147 and 154.
Re: Mayweather vs Mosley at Lightweight
Hard one to call. I think that this fight would have been closer at lightweight than any other division they have fought in as i believe this is when they had equal speed. I think that Mosley certainly had the power over Floyd but I think Floyd had the boxing skills over Mosley. I think that I would go for Floyd though as I think his defensive genius would eventually frustrate Mosley and his brilliant jab and counter puncjing skills would keep him in a close fight for the first 6-8 rounds before the frustration started to creep in, although I would give Mosley a chance of knocking anyone out at lightweight so there is always the chance that he would have caught Floyd and knocked him out. That said though apart from Hernandez no-one ever put Floyd down and a bigger hard punching De La Hoya caught him with some nice shots that he stood upto. Also when ever Floyd was struggling in the early rounds of fights he always seemed able to figure his opponent out quickly and turn the tide. So my opinion on this one is that this fight would have been similar to the Maywether v Judah fight when Zab started off the faster but the genius of Floyd worked him out, frustrated him and then quite easily beat him, the only difference being that he wouldnt have easily beat Mosley (far from it).
I have refused to use a common opponent in De La Hoya as:
1) The De La Hoya Mosley fought was a prime De La Hoya and the one Mayweather fought was slightly over the hill but still a very game competitor.
2) Neither of them fought him at lightweght. (Now that would have been interesting all 3 in their primes at lightweight).
