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Yeah, de La hoya makes the most sense b/c of the $$ but also b/c he's still dangerous, especially with his height and reach advantage at welter. And Kudos to ODLH for always taking dangerous fights when he, more than any other boxer, has the ability to make $$ w/o taking risks.
And wow, what a loaded division: Margarito, ODLH, Williams, Cotto, Mosely, an maybe Mayweather.
Floyd needs to come out of retirement and I believe he will. Whats standing between him being an all-time great and top-10 all time great is competition, being tested, and overcoming obstacles. He has an opportunity to make history here.
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The worst possible move Margarito could make is to fight a rematch with Paul Williams at light middle . I cannot think of a more stupid move but he is such a warrior that he might take that fight cuz of his pride
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It's 100% De la Hoya for a number of reasons.
#1 Oscar brings more money to a fight with Toni IMO
#2 This fight is something where both guys can prove how great they are
#3 Toni is still vulnerable to being outboxed so a fight with Mayweather is not the right choice as Floyd can easily do better than Miguel in regards to movement and defense.
I think after watching the Cotto-Margarito fight that Miguel proved he could really pair up nicely vs Mayweather Jr. as he showed he could move well and still land with power and accuracy
I would like to see Tony get a nice payday against De la Hoya. But do you think Oscar would want any part of Margarito?
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I don't think so BUT money talks and I think Oscar will take the fight because who else is there for him to fight? I guess Shane Mosley would try to fight Tony and might be able to pull out a decision win vs him.
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I want to see a rematch with Cotto.
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I want to see a rematch with Cotto.
The only point to a rematch would be to truly retire Cotto, I was on the Toni wagon since this fight was signed but, I like Cotto too much for that. Cotto needs to fight a couple smaller guys first get his confidence up then maybe fight cintron to get the hang of fighting a bigger guy, then maybe in 2 years fight Toni again...just to cement toni's legacy ;)
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I see Mayweather coming out of retirement now for 2 reasons!
1. Margarito looked very beatable when Cotto boxed him.
I think Cotto looked even more beatable after that punishment he got. Mayweather vs Cotto seems like it won't be happening.
I can see Mayweather winning against both or anybody for that matter.
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I voted for the Clottey/Judah winner. I don't think he'll rematch Williams who I think has his number, but he'll beat anyone else in the division. Next fight will either be C/J or a mandatory.
Of course I could be completely wrong about this.
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I see Mayweather coming out of retirement now for 2 reasons!
1. Margarito looked very beatable when Cotto boxed him.
I think Cotto looked even more beatable after that punishment he got. Mayweather vs Cotto seems like it won't be happening.
I can see Mayweather winning against both or anybody for that matter.
Agreed. I've noticed some people on here like to get at Mayweather even saying that he retired because the other good fighters in his division like Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Williams and De La Hoya would beat him.
I'd like to know where the logic in this comes from. Mosley in his prime may have caused Mayweather a few problems but i'd still edge toward Floyd but now I think Mayweather takes an easy decision. Cotto and Margarito IMO would get totally outboxed, all due respect but Mayweathers skills are still light years ahead of Cottos and he wouldn't let Margarito bully him into fighting the way he wants the way Cotto did. Williams with his height and good skills may cause Floyd trouble but I'm yet to see a boxing riddle that Floyd cannot figure out so I'd again go for a Mayweather points victory, and finally De La Hoya I'd probably give him the best chance of beating Floyd as he's already been in there with him and caused him a lot of trouble early on, but again Floyd turned it around and beat him (just) and I would if I had to bet on it go for the same result again.
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I read that Arum said the winner by Judah vs Clotey could face with the winner Cotto/Margaro in November , so Margaro probably fight with one of both in November , or probably could change.................:-\
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I would hope a rematch with Paul Williams is the route it goes. If Tony wins that than i can see him honorably retiring.
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I'd say he should rematch williams, but he'd get beat again in that I think. People keep on saying the only reason why margo lost is because he started so slow, well one could argue that the only reason it became close is cause paul took a few of the mid rounds off, and then basically dominated the 12th round to win the fight. its not as if margo had figured paul out and just battered him from post to pillar in the last few rounds, paul fought a very good strategic fights knowing which rounds he had to take and when it counted the most in the 12th he took it. Paul has an extremely sturdy chin as well, so I don't see a late tko for margo happening in that fight but it would most likely go the distance with paul taking the decision again.
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I cannot picture Arum putting Margarito anywhere near Williams again. He knows what the risk is against Williams and will want to keep that belt in house.
You might see a Cotto rematch or a fight against the Clottey/Judah winner.
Really? I don't see it that way. If you recall, Margarito started slow against Williams, who built up an early lead with his busy workrate. But in the end, Margarito was beginning to pick up steam, and probably won the majority of the last few rounds... but is wasn't enough to give him the decision. He wouldn't make the same mistake twice.
I just see Arum avoiding Williams because Williams takes away much of the advantages that Margarito has over everyone else. His size and punch output offer more than what Margarito offers, his chin might not be as good, but Margarito will not test it. The only advantages I see Margarito having are Stamina and Determination.
The only reason Willaims won the fight was because Tony started late. At the end Williams was barely standing. Now tony is familiar with Williams freakish size, speed and flat punching . Tony within 8 rounds
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Really? I don't see it that way. If you recall, Margarito started slow against Williams, who built up an early lead with his busy workrate. But in the end, Margarito was beginning to pick up steam, and probably won the majority of the last few rounds... but is wasn't enough to give him the decision. He wouldn't make the same mistake twice.
I just see Arum avoiding Williams because Williams takes away much of the advantages that Margarito has over everyone else. His size and punch output offer more than what Margarito offers, his chin might not be as good, but Margarito will not test it. The only advantages I see Margarito having are Stamina and Determination.
The only reason Willaims won the fight was because Tony started late. At the end Williams was barely standing. Now tony is familiar with Williams freakish size, speed and flat punching . Tony within 8 rounds
He didn't start late, Williams just didn't let him into the fight till late. I think Margarito will stay away from Williams.
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I see Mayweather coming out of retirement now for 2 reasons!
1. Margarito looked very beatable when Cotto boxed him.
I think Cotto looked even more beatable after that punishment he got. Mayweather vs Cotto seems like it won't be happening.
I can see Mayweather winning against both or anybody for that matter.
Agreed. I've noticed some people on here like to get at Mayweather even saying that he retired because the other good fighters in his division like Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Williams and De La Hoya would beat him.
I'd like to know where the logic in this comes from. Mosley in his prime may have caused Mayweather a few problems but i'd still edge toward Floyd but now I think Mayweather takes an easy decision. Cotto and Margarito IMO would get totally outboxed, all due respect but Mayweathers skills are still light years ahead of Cottos and he wouldn't let Margarito bully him into fighting the way he wants the way Cotto did. Williams with his height and good skills may cause Floyd trouble but I'm yet to see a boxing riddle that Floyd cannot figure out so I'd again go for a Mayweather points victory, and finally De La Hoya I'd probably give him the best chance of beating Floyd as he's already been in there with him and caused him a lot of trouble early on, but again Floyd turned it around and beat him (just) and I would if I had to bet on it go for the same result again.
I kinda see a Margarito-PBF bout coming out like the first Castillo-Mayweather fight, with Margarito getting the decision. Unfortunatley I don't think we'll ever get to see who's right on this one. Would be a great fight though.