Re: Andre Berto: "Shane Or Margartio...I'm ready!"
im saying everyone says they want fighters to step up to the plate and fight the best and when berto says he's ready and wants to do that people put him down like he is talkin to big it could just be me but lately it seems like when a black fighter says there good or can take the big names he's talkin to tough but when margo was saying he was ready for pbf no one said anything or when arum is saying pbf retired because of cotto people are saying arum is dum but thats because he has a history of saying dum stuff and i still dont see people really letting arum have it for his statment we dont knw what berto can do with these guys until he fights them and you can only get ready for the next level by fighting guys on the next level his hand speed and movement is great give him a shoot
Re: Andre Berto: "Shane Or Margartio...I'm ready!"
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truth32
im saying everyone says they want fighters to step up to the plate and fight the best and when berto says he's ready and wants to do that people put him down like he is talkin to big it could just be me but lately it seems like when a black fighter says there good or can take the big names he's talkin to tough but when margo was saying he was ready for pbf no one said anything or when arum is saying pbf retired because of cotto people are saying arum is dum but thats because he has a history of saying dum stuff and i still dont see people really letting arum have it for his statment we dont knw what berto can do with these guys until he fights them and you can only get ready for the next level by fighting guys on the next level his hand speed and movement is great give him a shoot
Yeah it could be because he is black. :rolleyes:
Or it could be because that Margarito has been in the top class for a long time.
Re: Andre Berto: "Shane Or Margartio...I'm ready!"
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If Berto fought Margarito at this point and time all he wouyld be ready for is retirement....
As I said leading up to the Cotto fight....
Margarito is the baddest MoFo in the 147lb division....And that is saying a lot
People have a problem with Ring having him at #6... I can't think of 7 people P4P that can touch him... So I don't get their arguments.
He is absolutly the top guy. I have been pulling for him for a while.
He would obliterate Berto. It wouldn't even be funny... Like people would be cringing.
You Berto lovers listen up!
Berto is a flash in the pan.
Ok thanks I'll brace myself. Because the opinion a guy who was seriously rating Peter Manfredo's chances of being elite when he joined this forum is practically gospel.
Re: Andre Berto: "Shane Or Margartio...I'm ready!"
he will have enough on his plate trying to get past Forbes.
Re: Andre Berto: "Shane Or Margartio...I'm ready!"
Hey I have seen the opinions fly around here.. All I gotta say is that Berto is the future of the division.. Big stong natural Welter who can fight the other bigger guys of the division because of his size as well as have all the attributes of the naturally smaller guys with Speed, Reflexes and quickness... I dont get how everyone is on Gamboa's D**k with 11 wins but Berto who has been brought up the absolute best way by Dibella is called a flash in the pan.. Amazing how fickle fans can be..
You'll bitch about an all action fighter with an electrifiying offense and say he neglects defense but you'll bitch at the defensive fighter and say he is boring and to cautious:confused: Berto has been improving steadily and especially defensively against Rodriguez were he was implementing a version of the Philly shell and shoulder rolling more... Which was light years away from were he had been against guys like Rivera and Estrada... I saw him being patient Boxing and then letting the KO come to him
Re: Andre Berto: "Shane Or Margartio...I'm ready!"
I'm still unsure about him mainly in the defense and chin area and also it will be interesting to see if he has some rough moments does he have a plan B but he's obviously got some natural gifts.
I'm not totally sure about his power either. He can punch but I'm not sure if its really top drawer type of power. If he had to fight one of the two he should probably go for Shane, Margarito's pressure is the worst type of thing for an inexperienced fighter.
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he will have enough on his plate trying to get past Forbes.
I think he'll school Forbes but I haven't seen enough of him to make my mind up as far as the likes of Tony and Shane go. I hope he's good enough though, I'd love to see another ultra talent in the welter div.
Re: Andre Berto: "Shane Or Margartio...I'm ready!"
im not saying people dont like him because he's black but i do feel like black fighters do get put in the big mouth section before anyother fighter who could say the exact same thing. and as for margo being at the top rank the only one he beat with any type of skill was cotto who imo isn't great so lets see who margo fights next and how he does before we start giveing him major props
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im not saying people dont like him because he's black but i do feel like black fighters do get put in the big mouth section before anyother fighter who could say the exact same thing. and as for margo being at the top rank the only one he beat with any type of skill was cotto who imo isn't great so lets see who margo fights next and how he does before we start giveing him major props
Ohh my eyes.No,I think Margarito is exactly where he deserves to be as far as due respect at the top tier.Look,Berto is well on his way.....to where?Time will tell us that.BTW,You do realize that even Margaritos sparring partner & stable mate KO'd the biggest name on Bertos Resume last week ;D.Just a thought.
Re: Andre Berto: "Shane Or Margartio...I'm ready!"
dont read between the lines with me i havnt said berto is the greatest but anyone with true speed is going to give margo trouble do to the fact that he is slow i think that would be obvious.