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Nice story, good tale by your trainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
SRR was on record as saying he would not fight Burley because SRR was 'Too Pretty'
During SRR's reign as 147 World champ (1946-1950), Burley was fighting the last 4 years of his 14 year career (1936-50). I do not think he would be sweeping Gym floors in Detroit. ;)
A-ha, :detective: a glitch in the story....Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
Interesting :scratchchin:
By 1946 Robinson knew exactly who Charley Burley was, and if he did spar with him, he would of known he was facing Burley, but hey it was a good story.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacky
Charley Burley would have been my pick for the story even though I doubt he would have been sweeping floors. Burley has been put up as a rival to SRR as best figher p4p, although he's little known these days - I read about him a long time ago & I think it was Bk who had to remind me of his precise name when I brought him up in a topic. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
I have never said he didnt know who Burley was, and it just happened that particular day they had asked Charley to do them a favour and sweep the floor, being a nice kind of chap he obliged. Many a time they would ask Jo Louis to move round with Burley, but he would just smile and tell them to piss off.
As I say, over a period of weeks we did alot of talking and the conversation got around to great fighters. He asked me my opinion and I reeled off four of the best fighters that I had seen. The only time I'd seen Burley was during a fight with a guy called Smith who was a light heavyweight nearing the end of his career and what I had read of him and the old guy started laughing and told me that he was one of the main people who had had him inducted into the hall of fame. Also he was probably pound for pound the best fighter he had ever seen in his lifetime.
Now there are a few clues for you
(DD is looking for info about Eubanks crotch area specifically.)
LOL :clap:
just cause he was sweeping the floor didnt mean he was poor ...he may have just been at the gym when he desided yo help out?...i swept floors in my gym
eubank swept the floors at his gym becuase he couldnt afford the cost of goin to the gym so he thought it was an easy way of gettin in and they eventually let him have a go for free
Is this Eddie Futch's story about Charley and SRR? Sugar Ray fought on the same card as Charley earlier so he definitely knew who he was. The met in the early 40s. Charley spend most of those days in Cali then back in Pittsburgh. How he and a NYer would meet up twice in Detriot is hard to call. Charley never mentioned sparring SRR and he reportedly very honest and straightforward. I think the story is suspect.
Well, all I can say is like I have already said, I met and spent time with this man and had many hours of great boxing stories from him. I personally believe the story, I cant see why he would make it up, I got to know him quite well, he even invited me to go and work with him over there. I turned him down, one regret I will always have.
I had 4 or 5 up and coming champs of my own at the time and choices had to be made, I chose to stay with my lads, turned out well.
Charley was an extremely good fighter that was managed very poorly. Fritzie Zivic played him. Anyway, somebody in Ray's entourage at the time would have leaked that story. Where was Charley's trainer at the time. His name was Hiawatha or something like that? I don't know. I'm not buyin, but I'm a hardcore SRR fan.
War
The story was told to me 20 years ago, and that was the general gist of it. I was not there and of course I did not see it, This is the first time I have ever told this story, I thought I would tell it to you lot.
Believe it or dont, up to you
Respect
Scrap
Still doubt me? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DD
scrap, love your storys mate, your insight into boxing is second to none.
riddick bowe sparred with evander holyfield when bowe was 17
NowI was there for this one.John Davenport asked a cruiser to spar with Lennox Lewis before the Razor Ruddock fight.He obliged,first round was heavy with Lewis I thought trying to take a liberty.The second was one way traffic, the cruiser Beat the shit out of Lewis wobbled him a few times,Lewis was gone.They pulled him out,He was in shock for 30 mins after,and so was everybody else