Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.
When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."
When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"
And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.
We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.
Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.
Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.
If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.
Your thoughts???
Giving the utmost respect to your post...
Manny will never command the money that Oscar commanded/commands. Pac is a name now and deserves it... He also deserves big money fights and is a force in the sport and should be respected but he will NEVER... I REPEAT... NEVER command the money that Oscar has...
PS. I am not a Delahoya fan.(respect he accomplishments but not a fan)
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$
But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.
Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
De la Hoya is cleary fighting Pac for the reason that Pac is the biggest name out of opponents Oscar thinks would cause him the least damage. If Cotto had destroyed Margo, Oscar would go back to his I can't fight a Puerto Pican becasue my wife is Puerto Rican.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.
When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."
When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"
And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.
We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.
Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.
Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.
If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.
Your thoughts???
Giving the utmost respect to your post...
Manny will never command the money that Oscar commanded/commands. Pac is a name now and deserves it... He also deserves big money fights and is a force in the sport and should be respected but he will NEVER... I REPEAT...
NEVER command the money that Oscar has...
PS. I am not a Delahoya fan.(respect he accomplishments but not a fan)
Check your History!!!
When Pac beat Barrera, He becomes more Popular than barrera. When He KOes Morales, He becomes more Popular than Morales. Pac-JMM 2 holds the PPV records at 140 & Below. Isn't it DLH fought at that weight? After PaC BEATS DLH in an entertaining fight(No DLH-PBF sparring here) How popular you think Pac will be after that?? Do the Math???
DLH has only 3 -Million Buys PPV..., Bhop, Trinidad & PBF. This is his last fight. Where do you think all those regular DLH buyers go after Pac retires him in an entertaining fight??? Pac's potential fights after DLH like Hatton & JMM are definitely more entertaing than Bhops. Pac's never ran around the ring like DLH in the Trinidad fight. Pac-PBF is Guaranteed 2Million+ buys. Who don't want to see the 3rd fight between Pac & JMM?
If Pac wins against DLH, That will be a very Big achievement in Boxing History. That will be Amazing. Pac fights are very entertaining, now coupled it with his Amazing achievements, I'm sure his next fights after that will be a Big sell. It takes only a DLH fight to tell the world about Pac. Once all these Big audience saw Pac, they will want to see him again.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
the wiz
I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$
But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.
If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction????
--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito??? Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner???
--Cotto??? He already lost his luster 0.
See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called it the Changing of the Guard.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
spade
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.
When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."
When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"
And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.
We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.
Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.
Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.
If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.
Your thoughts???
If he beats DLH, which is improbable, people will say DLH is old and past his prime.
He will be killed by Hatton
He will be crushed by Margarito
It will be a manslaughter for Pretty Boy
End of Pacquiao's career, with lots of money but dead
I think Pac could be Hatton. Just one weight class below where he fought comfortably. Pac could come in at 138 or so and be practically the same guy who fought David Diaz and that guy gives Hatton PROBLEMS.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
:knock_out:
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
the wiz
I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$
But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.
If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction????
--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito??? Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner???
--Cotto??? He already lost his luster 0.
See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called the Changing of the Guard.
And how many losses does Pac have again? Somebody needs to stop laying down for Manny.:knock_out:
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
Killface
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Originally Posted by
spade
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.
When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."
When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"
And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.
We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.
Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.
Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.
If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.
Your thoughts???
If he beats DLH, which is improbable, people will say DLH is old and past his prime.
He will be killed by Hatton
He will be crushed by Margarito
It will be a manslaughter for Pretty Boy
End of Pacquiao's career, with lots of money but dead
I think Pac could be Hatton. Just one weight class below where he fought comfortably. Pac could come in at 138 or so and be practically the same guy who fought David Diaz and that guy gives Hatton PROBLEMS.
Pac will dominate & KO Hatton. That's the easiest among the Pac's potential Superfight. No good Jab and No strong straight right is a No win against Pac. Hatton's Arms are too short(20") compared to Pac's 25". Pac will have a field day shooting hatton from the Outside.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
Killface
:knock_out:
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
the wiz
I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$
But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.
If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction????
--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito??? Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner???
--Cotto??? He already lost his luster 0.
See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called the Changing of the Guard.
And how many losses does Pac have again? Somebody needs to stop laying down for Manny.:knock_out:
That's one of the selling point of Pac. He' defeated already but he's beaten also many Legends. One more Pac's selling point is his amazing speed & Power. He's very entertaining.
Cotto's has his Power but he don't have that Amazing speed. He's still entertaining but I doubt he will be more Popular than Pac.
This is about Changing of the Guard as the #1 PPV attraction. Pac is the one Fighting DLH next. Cotto just lost badly & will hurt his Popularity. Pac has loses but that was long long time ago. His other loss to Morales was already avenged twice with an impressive KO. Before Cotto can avenge his loss to Margo(Which I doubt he can), Pac will be way up there reaping his Popularity. No way he can catch up with Pac.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
Pac's crossover appeal is in the Phillipines and deservedly so, but he has no cross over appeal in the US and the world over like Delahoya
Oscar is articulate, well dressed, charismatic, with movie star looks. People come to see his fights because he was exciting but it was also a good event like an A list celebrity. He was able to combine all of that to gain popularity with the hardcore boxing fan aswell as the casual fan who are enamored with names like Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Leonard etc.
Pac is as exciting of a fighter as there have been, but thats about all his appeal amounts too compared to the conglomorent that encompasses Delahoyas popularity
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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JT Rock
Pac's crossover appeal is in the Phillipines and deservedly so, but he has no cross over appeal in the US and the world over like Delahoya
Oscar is articulate, well dressed, charismatic, with movie star looks. People come to see his fights because he was exciting but it was also a good event like an A list celebrity. He was able to combine all of that to gain popularity with the hardcore boxing fan aswell as the casual fan who are enamored with names like Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Leonard etc.
Pac is as exciting of a fighter as there have been, but thats about all his appeal amounts too compared to the conglomorent that encompasses Delahoyas popularity
Think about Duran?? He doesn't speak English but he becomes as Popular at SRL because he defeated him. That's the same thing will Happen after Pac beats DLH. He's action in the Ring is his selling point. Not his Good looks. We're talking about Boxing right???
Pac's cross over appeal is just starting. He's too busy fighting Mexican Legends that why he can't crossover the Mainstream American Audience. Now it's different. He'll be fighting the most Popular Fighter in Boxing History. That's different that just fighting the most popular Mexican and He will be fighting at the weight Class where Regular American tune in (it's well documented that mainstream America don't care about the lower weight Class below 140).
Pac already has Stallone, Tyson, Bruce willis, the entire Celtics Team as his Celebrity Fans. Winning against DLH will guarantee an influx of Celebrities in his next fights.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
Pac's crossover appeal is in the Phillipines and deservedly so, but he has no cross over appeal in the US and the world over like Delahoya
Oscar is articulate, well dressed, charismatic, with movie star looks. People come to see his fights because he was exciting but it was also a good event like an A list celebrity. He was able to combine all of that to gain popularity with the hardcore boxing fan aswell as the casual fan who are enamored with names like Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Leonard etc.
Pac is as exciting of a fighter as there have been, but thats about all his appeal amounts too compared to the conglomorent that encompasses Delahoyas popularity
Think about Duran?? He doesn't speak English but he becomes as Popular at SRL because he defeated him. That's the same thing will Happen after Pac beats DLH. He's action in the Ring is his selling point. Not his Good looks. We're talking about Boxing right???
Pac's cross over appeal is just starting. He's too busy fighting Mexican Legends that why he can't crossover the Mainstream American Audience. Now it's different. He'll be fighting the most Popular Fighter in Boxing History. That's different that just fighting the most popular Mexican and He will be fighting at the weight Class where Regular American tune in (it's well documented that mainstream America don't care about the lower weight Class below 140).
Pac already has Stallone, Tyson, Bruce willis, the entire Celtics Team as his Celebrity Fans. Winning against DLH will guarantee an influx of Celebrities in his next fights.
You make good points... I just don't see him having the draw power Oscar has/Had.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
Pac's crossover appeal is in the Phillipines and deservedly so, but he has no cross over appeal in the US and the world over like Delahoya
Oscar is articulate, well dressed, charismatic, with movie star looks. People come to see his fights because he was exciting but it was also a good event like an A list celebrity. He was able to combine all of that to gain popularity with the hardcore boxing fan aswell as the casual fan who are enamored with names like Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Leonard etc.
Pac is as exciting of a fighter as there have been, but thats about all his appeal amounts too compared to the conglomorent that encompasses Delahoyas popularity
Think about Duran?? He doesn't speak English but he becomes as Popular at SRL because he defeated him. That's the same thing will Happen after Pac beats DLH. He's action in the Ring is his selling point. Not his Good looks. We're talking about Boxing right???
Pac's cross over appeal is just starting. He's too busy fighting Mexican Legends that why he can't crossover the Mainstream American Audience. Now it's different. He'll be fighting the most Popular Fighter in Boxing History. That's different that just fighting the most popular Mexican and He will be fighting at the weight Class where Regular American tune in (it's well documented that mainstream America don't care about the lower weight Class below 140).
Pac already has Stallone, Tyson, Bruce willis, the entire Celtics Team as his Celebrity Fans. Winning against DLH will guarantee an influx of Celebrities in his next fights.
You make good points... I just don't see him having the draw power Oscar has/Had.
You are talking about a few ingredients that make Delahoya the draw that he is/was and looks, charm, charisma are a big part.. I'm sorry but Pac wont get there..
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
Think about Duran?? He doesn't speak English but he becomes as Popular at SRL because he defeated him. That's the same thing will Happen after Pac beats DLH. He's action in the Ring is his selling point. Not his Good looks. We're talking about Boxing right???
Pac's cross over appeal is just starting. He's too busy fighting Mexican Legends that why he can't crossover the Mainstream American Audience. Now it's different. He'll be fighting the most Popular Fighter in Boxing History. That's different that just fighting the most popular Mexican and He will be fighting at the weight Class where Regular American tune in (it's well documented that mainstream America don't care about the lower weight Class below 140).
Pac already has Stallone, Tyson, Bruce willis, the entire Celtics Team as his Celebrity Fans. Winning against DLH will guarantee an influx of Celebrities in his next fights.
You make good points... I just don't see him having the draw power Oscar has/Had.
You are talking about a few ingredients that make Delahoya the draw that he is/was and looks, charm, charisma are a big part.. I'm sorry but Pac wont get there..
Agreed... but nontheless... Pac has done very well for himself. For ANYONE to gain the starpower that ODLH has would be a feat unto itself.
Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
I wanna state that this isint an indictment on Manny his skills or his PFP#1 standing. It just takes a alot more than Boxing skill to get the kinda of attention and Stardom that Oscar has achieved.