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Markus dont even start playing with symantics now... Yor post had a denigrating overtone toward Cotto.. I mean you wanna pick apart the word warrior and we can trace it back to an old school soldier, and I'll tell you some of the bravest soldiers had to retreat and regroup from certain battles... So that all of a sudden didt make them a warrior because they lived to fight another day:confused:
I gotta do some neg repping to here, because there is nothing worse than a word minceing creep:mad:
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Amen to that. Especially how Cotto did it, he held in there for 11 rounds and I guess he knew that he had nothing left and with the knockdowns he wasn't going to win a decision, so why take more of a potential career-threatening beating?
I like how he is humble about his defeat and isn't making excuses.
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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
First, is that anyway to to talk to a lady. :o
Second, what does Pavlik have to do with this? :dontknow:
I'll gladly get into why you are being ridiculous, but I'll have to wait until I get home from work tonight when I have more time.
But, before I do that, I just want to know, you keep saying that you are not trying to knock Cotto, yet in 2 different threads you were spouting this nonsense, and when no one wanted to hear that crap, you felt the need to start a 3rd thread so that you can continue to pound this crap into our heads. So if you're not trying to knock Cotto, why do you have to keep posting this crap in so many different threads, when no one agrees with you?
He just said that he would not have to take unnecessary punches , if you been on his shoes did you would take a tragic KO knowing that you cant give anymore ?
I think that is what the most No Cotto fans wanted , see him dieing in the line , but we have to consider that he took the right decision , i dont think that knowing the kind of boxer that he is , we have to " Find the Meaning of Quitter " , we know that he is a Warrior , he couldn't , thats all , somebody had to Yield and that was Cotto , that was Margaros Night and he prepared for that ...........
Cotto choose to take those knees so it is what it is.
Anything wrong with it no! but he did choose to take those knees.
Im saying there is nothing wrong with him taking a knee nothing at all but he did choose to take them for what ever reason.
And i doubt Cotto could really get hurt in the ring he doesnt take a shot well enough to take a good 12rd beating although he was busted up pretty bad againsr Marg.
I was Ringside for Ben v McClellan. When Gerald took a Knee in the Nineth, my first thoughts were the cunts Bottled it. After I felt terrible realising what my first impressions were, dont even go there Pal.
Its a word to explain what happened he ceased action on a deep feeling before it took a real toll on him ,so what?. QUIT is a word you need to learn quit telling it over and over. Big deal, we all still resepect him and all other warriors/fighters who chooce to fight another day.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Im not knocking Cotto in any way but he said it himself id rather believe him and not people on a forum.
Seriously the only point to the conversation is to attempt the egoic mental stand of making someone else appear wrong about something so your brain feels right. That is the product of a deeper false belife system, which I wont bore you with here on the front page.
I get pissed off when accusations of being a Quitter are thrown around, Cotto is not a quitter, he will live to fight another day and as he said Margarito was better on the night. Was Joe Frazier a Quitter when he couldn't come out for the 15th round in the 'Thriller in Manilla' ? No he wasn't, the guy can hardly string two words together now.
Tszyu was heavily criticized for quitting on the stool against Hatton, yet it was his corner who stopped it not the fighter. Had the fight continued he would have been in serious trouble.
These guys go into battle every fight they have and sometimes things don't always work out the way they want them too. Cotto is a brave, courageous warrior who just lost a fight and that's all he did, if he is a true champion he will comeback bigger, better and stronger than before and who knows he may fight Margarito and whip his ass next time.
ok... I see you're singing the same tune in various threads...Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Because the subject is the same. Why not merge all these threads about Cotto losing/quitting into one single thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanok... I see you're singing the same tune in various threads...Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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This is non-sense.....His "Choice" was very much greatly influenced to say the least!! You doubt he could get hurt in the ring but yet he does not take a shot well enough to take a "good" beating in the 12th :bucktooth: huh? Margarito Took that victory,it was not given to him! Cotto gave every thing he had to give until he was totally spent.Respect to both and to ANY fighter that goes through that hellish type of fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
I didn't bother reading much more than the original post, but Cotto did not quit. He was beaten into submission by a fighter whose style was all wrong for him. I find it somewhat ironic that Zab Judah was applauded and respected for his fight with Cotto, but when the same thing happens to Cotto he's derided as a quitter. In no way did he quit, if the fight had continued for another 10 seconds he would've been unconscious.
He'll be back though, I don't get this modern day obsession with unbeaten (and thus almost universally heavily padded) records. I'd rather have fighters like Margarito and Cotto, who have some losses between them, who are willing to fight everyone, even if it means they occasionally lose.