Re: Has Manfredo's showing and seemingly new hunger changed any minds?
Manfredo is a local feel good fighter...He will get on the undercard of big events and headline some small shows but nothing more.....He is the guy that everyone from his hometown can say they know or they have met and it is a name most who are fans of the sport have heard of and those who aren't are impressed by the whold TV show thing.......
Peter is a nice kid with limited skills and will never be world champion but is also they guy you would like to see make it happen....makes it fun to root for him
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Manfredo could have beaten Lacy but once Lacy started throwing power punches Manfredo was shitting himself.
Whether people want to call ot a slip or not he def got his bell rung in the fourth and was shit after that
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Manfredo is a local feel good fighter...He will get on the undercard of big events and headline some small shows but nothing more.....He is the guy that everyone from his hometown can say they know or they have met and it is a name most who are fans of the sport have heard of and those who aren't are impressed by the whold TV show thing.......
Peter is a nice kid with limited skills and will never be world champion but is also they guy you would like to see make it happen....makes it fun to root for him
Very true
Re: Has Manfredo's showing and seemingly new hunger changed any minds?
He Can't Compete With The Elite But I Do See As Kind Of A Gatti Who Only Beat Mediocre Fighters And Was Outclassed Everytime He Took A Step Up.
Re: Has Manfredo's showing and seemingly new hunger changed any minds?
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DaxxKahn
Manfredo is a local feel good fighter...He will get on the undercard of big events and headline some small shows but nothing more.....He is the guy that everyone from his hometown can say they know or they have met and it is a name most who are fans of the sport have heard of and those who aren't are impressed by the whold TV show thing.......
Peter is a nice kid with limited skills and will never be world champion but is also they guy you would like to see make it happen....makes it fun to root for him
I actually think he has good skills, but he lacks great athletic ability and the drive to work and diet himself in the kind of condition he needs to be at the top of his game. He can fight both inside and out, he has some defense. He's a cute fighter who doesn't get hit flush much, and at his best, he doesn't waste a lot of nervous energy. On the other hand, he doesn't have exceptional hand or foot speed. He's not a naturally powerful puncher. Most of his success is based on the fact that he's been training since he was very young and he has very good fundamentals. If he had the discipline to make 154 the right way (not a weight drained, weak 154), he could be legit top 10 fighter and legitimately challenge for an alphabet soup belt. But at 168, he's never going to beat guys that don't have serious flaws. He can hold his own at that weight with limited and incomplete fighters like Banks, Spina, and McCrary. Hell he even had a chance to beat Lacy, he's a more skillful boxer than Lacy, but Lacy is too big for him and once he tasted the power of a real hard hitting SMW, he mentally folded. A guy like Bika is going to out muscle him. He's' just too big physically, and Allen Green would outbox him soundly if he fought a smart fight.
I honestly think he would stand a good chance against Jean Pascal. After Froch puts a hurt on Pascal, that would make a great fight for both guys. Manfredo vs Duddy is a potentially great local fight. That would be a tough one to call, because Manfredo has more skill but Duddy has more heart.
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Manfredo-Duddy would be GREAT to see....if Pete's fat ass could make 160 again.
Hell even Manfredo-Lee would be a decent fight to make soon (once Lee gets his shit together)
I'd like to see him fight Allan Green or Andre Ward to be honest
Duddy's gunning for 154 now.
Lee would destroy Peter.
5'9" vs. 6'2"???
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Manfredo-Duddy would be GREAT to see....if Pete's fat ass could make 160 again.
Hell even Manfredo-Lee would be a decent fight to make soon (once Lee gets his shit together)
I'd like to see him fight Allan Green or Andre Ward to be honest
Duddy's gunning for 154 now.
Lee would destroy Peter.
5'9" vs. 6'2"???
I would agree, but who would have a thought that Lee would lose to Vera? Who knows what the KO did to his confidence. Lee had 3 inches on Vera, too. I know Duddy is gunning for 154, but at some point Manfredo/Duddy is going to happen a some point, even if it's a few years down the road. It will be a huge fight in New England. They both have big fan bases here and the Irish vs Italy angle always plays well.
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Manfredo-Duddy would be GREAT to see....if Pete's fat ass could make 160 again.
Hell even Manfredo-Lee would be a decent fight to make soon (once Lee gets his shit together)
I'd like to see him fight Allan Green or Andre Ward to be honest
Duddy's gunning for 154 now.
Lee would destroy Peter.
5'9" vs. 6'2"???
I would agree, but who would have a thought that Lee would lose to Vera? Who knows what the KO did to his confidence. Lee had 3 inches on Vera, too. I know Duddy is gunning for 154, but at some point Manfredo/Duddy is going to happen a some point, even if it's a few years down the road. It will be a huge fight in New England. They both have big fan bases here and the Irish vs Italy angle always plays well.
Andy reckons that he wasn't fit....
Said he never felt right in that fight.
Could be ovrtraining or too many fights????
I've said Duddy Manfredo for a long time....It could be a very entertaining fight, but both would be best at 154.
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I think Andy Lee needs some more weight on him being 6'2-6'3 and only being 160 and a SKINNY 160 at that can't help his power or stamina.
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I think Andy Lee needs some more weight on him being 6'2-6'3 and only being 160 and a SKINNY 160 at that can't help his power or stamina.
I think he's skinny also and very skinny, but I feel he needs to develop more in terms of defense before heading toward heavy hitters.
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Duddy's gunning for 154 now.
Lee would destroy Peter.
5'9" vs. 6'2"???
I would agree, but who would have a thought that Lee would lose to Vera? Who knows what the KO did to his confidence. Lee had 3 inches on Vera, too. I know Duddy is gunning for 154, but at some point Manfredo/Duddy is going to happen a some point, even if it's a few years down the road. It will be a huge fight in New England. They both have big fan bases here and the Irish vs Italy angle always plays well.
Andy reckons that he wasn't fit....
Said he never felt right in that fight.
Could be ovrtraining or too many fights????
I've said Duddy Manfredo for a long time....It could be a very entertaining fight, but both would be best at 154.
Manfredo is never going to see 154 again. Too many good Italian restaurants in Providence. We will see Duddy have a few bouts down at 154. Manfredo will do his thing - stay busy with club fighters - then in a year or two they'll meet at 160 for some the NABF or NABU or USBA MW title, probably at one of the CT casino's or at MSG. The fight will make money an the winner will get another big fight. The loser will be back to club fighter and gate keeping duty.
There is a chance that Duddy might be really good at 154 stick around there for a while, and that would put this fight off a while, because I can't ever see Manfredo going back down to 154 while he can still make living at 168 or 160 and not kill himself to make weight.
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I would agree, but who would have a thought that Lee would lose to Vera? Who knows what the KO did to his confidence. Lee had 3 inches on Vera, too. I know Duddy is gunning for 154, but at some point Manfredo/Duddy is going to happen a some point, even if it's a few years down the road. It will be a huge fight in New England. They both have big fan bases here and the Irish vs Italy angle always plays well.
Andy reckons that he wasn't fit....
Said he never felt right in that fight.
Could be ovrtraining or too many fights????
I've said Duddy Manfredo for a long time....It could be a very entertaining fight, but both would be best at 154.
Manfredo is never going to see 154 again. Too many good Italian restaurants in Providence. We will see Duddy have a few bouts down at 154. Manfredo will do his thing - stay busy with club fighters - then in a year or two they'll meet at 160 for some the NABF or NABU or USBA MW title, probably at one of the CT casino's or at MSG. The fight will make money an the winner will get another big fight. The loser will be back to club fighter and gate keeping duty.
There is a chance that Duddy might be really good at 154 stick around there for a while, and that would put this fight off a while, because I can't ever see Manfredo going back down to 154 while he can still make living at 168 or 160 and not kill himself to make weight.
Theres truth in those words.
Duddy could be quite good at 154 and he may have even to beat Vernoe Phillips this October if it gets signed.
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Very true...this isn't the amatuers, you have to hit and not get hit and Andy just eats those right hands all day long, he's never going to last doing that. I definently see the upside to him and the potential but he's got to stop taking so much punishment...there's no reason for a fighter who is that tall and has as good of a jab as he does to get busted up like he does. He also needs an uppercut to keep fighters from getting on the inside
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Very true...this isn't the amatuers, you have to hit and not get hit and Andy just eats those right hands all day long, he's never going to last doing that. I definently see the upside to him and the potential but he's got to stop taking so much punishment...there's no reason for a fighter who is that tall and has as good of a jab as he does to get busted up like he does. He also needs an uppercut to keep fighters from getting on the inside
Unusual for a southpaw, a skillful southpaw to not have developed a watchful eye for the straight right isn't it?
He's cutting very easily when guys get in on him, so dead right, he needs that uppercut, he would have finished Gibbs in the 5th when he had him rocked. All he needed was an uppercut.
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I think if Lee progresses he'll do better work at 168 after adding some muscle mass. His legs are way too skinny as well, if he worked on them he could be a bigger puncher IMO.
He's got a great offensive arsenal but that defense is just beyond horrible. Manny Steward should be able to fix him up what with the fighters he has to spar against on a regular basis.
