Re: Breakdown of Mayweather-Wright
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Originally Posted by gyrokai
Good post Magnum. cool click.
Breakdown is simple. Wright is bigger and Mayweather is smaller.
Mayweather is going to have to win it by decision. Wright will have to muscle the Pretty Boy to get past his speed. It's not in Wright's nature to be aggressive, so Mayweather has that going for him.
The only way Floyd wins it, is not by a beat down, but by embarrasing Wright.
If this fight happens, I'm so rooting for Floyd. ;D I think Wright's defense has a serious fundamental flaw. Yeah I said it you boxing addicts!
Am i the person here who thinks floyds speed wont be as great at 154. You are all talking about floyd speed and how that can beat winky, how do we know that floyds speed wont be the same as winkys at 154. Floyd is putting on too much weight i think this will be like what happened to dela hoya.
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oops.Yeah im just gonna stop posting now.How could i forget that judahs a
southpaw.hell its 2:30 here and i'm all outta brainpower for now.
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Originally Posted by Magnum
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I'd say PBF has a good shot.But there is a weight difference.A big
question is what weight would they meet at.Other then that i see Winky
making it his usual boring fight by not allowing to much activity,and stealing
rounds from PBF.I'd say that Winky has the better defense.And that if
floyd really turned it on he could use his speed to make his own openings.
Its really a toss up in my book.How willing floyd is to make the fight would
probably determine it.Slow fight goes to Winky.Faster paced fight goes
to PBF.
it would be at 154.
too be honest i dont see any way that wright could win this fight.
I want someone to put up a good arguement and then ill tell you why i think floyd will win. this isnt to insult the poster here i just wanted someone to break down their style punch for punch, little tendancies that they have, how they block punches, etc. what i mean is a lot of detail.
The official breakdown of the fight ( i hope it doesn't happen) Now their are some realistic reasons working for Mayweather although Wright is 3 inches taller their reach is even at 72 inches apiece. The second thing that works for Mayweather is he's a very good defensive fighter with a lot of speed. Wright although the naturally heavier fighter isn't neccessarily a Knock out threat.
Now on the other hand Wright is a Natural 154 he's fought their his whole career, and Mayweather started his career at 130; so like Hopkins Trinidad or Hopkins De La Hoya, or Wright Shane Mosley it's a legit weight fighter verses a blown up fighter in weight with a big ego. Also like Mayorga Dela Hoya Trinidad Shane Mosley their all looking at moving back down because they'v passed their maximum boxing weight. 130 to 154 is a 5 division 25 pound difference. Mayweather is jumping 15 pounds from his current division. Roy, De la Hoya, Mosley all lost some speed and all thought they were power punchers after they put on so much weight. Winky we'll have a similar game plan to his mosley fights (because he's fight a Shane with less power and a better defense). Winky has been their before as Wright you have two options either make Mayweather come to you and catch him with a few counters to let him no he's in a different weight class or smother him similar to the Hatton Kosta fight. Winky is an intelligent fighter and he know's how to adjust. We just saw him demolish Trinidad off of intellingence and instinct, while Mayweather beat Gatti of of Natural Talent Like speed and Defense.
read my breakdown of the fight..
I dont think mayweather has a big ego.. I just think he is confident. most people think he is taking this fight because of ego, but he has a realistic shot.
the winky fight isnt comparable to the mosley fights.
shane is offensive inded first and always leads with his head. he is tailor made for guys like forrest (who he couldnt really get by his jab) and wright (who hand so many counter oppurtunites) because of mosleys box from the outside, see an opening and spurt in with a fast combo style.
winky coming forward would be a terrible idea for him. with his stance and the way he moves and only blocks punches he would be counter and mayweather would move and when winky threw back nobody would be there.
mayweather also beat gatti off of intelligence. he knew exactly how to beat gatti and had a great gameplan and he picked out a lot of gattis flaws.
one good thing you said is about the weight and to jump this much too soon may be a problem. but if anyone can do it its floyd because of his care for his bdy and his great work ethic.
also i dont think winky is that much taller. i think he is 1" taller. but that wont matter in the fight because winkys jab isnt good at keeping distance. i mean it is good at pushing you back when he thinks your too close, but he never really uses it like say forrest and thats for a reason.
Re: Breakdown of Mayweather-Wright
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Originally Posted by Snakey
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Originally Posted by gyrokai
Good post Magnum. cool click.
Breakdown is simple. Wright is bigger and Mayweather is smaller.
Mayweather is going to have to win it by decision. Wright will have to muscle the Pretty Boy to get past his speed. It's not in Wright's nature to be aggressive, so Mayweather has that going for him.
The only way Floyd wins it, is not by a beat down, but by embarrasing Wright.
If this fight happens, I'm so rooting for Floyd. ;D I think Wright's defense has a serious fundamental flaw. Yeah I said it you boxing addicts!
Am i the person here who thinks floyds speed wont be as great at 154. You are all talking about floyd speed and how that can beat winky, how do we know that floyds speed wont be the same as winkys at 154. Floyd is putting on too much weight i think this will be like what happened to dela hoya.
Well the reason is because he looks so good after moving up.He has really
filled out alot recently.And still has plenty of speed.
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Originally Posted by gyrokai
Good post Magnum. cool click.
Breakdown is simple. Wright is bigger and Mayweather is smaller.
Mayweather is going to have to win it by decision. Wright will have to muscle the Pretty Boy to get past his speed. It's not in Wright's nature to be aggressive, so Mayweather has that going for him.
The only way Floyd wins it, is not by a beat down, but by embarrasing Wright.
If this fight happens, I'm so rooting for Floyd. ;D I think Wright's defense has a serious fundamental flaw. Yeah I said it you boxing addicts!Â
Am i the person here who thinks floyds speed wont be as great at 154. You are all talking about floyd speed and how that can beat winky, how do we know that floyds speed wont be the same as winkys at 154. Floyd is putting on too much weight i think this will be like what happened to dela hoya.
floyds speed will probably a little less, but winky isnt fast. he is just quick to the punch.
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Theres no way floyd is a as quick at 154 as he would be at 140. He wont be as quick and he will be facing winky who does have eough power IMO to ko pbf.
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Theres no way floyd is a as quick at 154 as he would be at 140. He wont be as quick and he will be facing winky who does have eough power IMO to ko pbf.
well even if he does how will he set up he jab to land effectively on floyd? i mean i dont think he can knock out floyd (maybe with accumulation) but i dont think he can ko him with 1 punch and i doubt he will be able too with accumulation. referring to the first part, winky never throws anything without landing his jab first.
i dont see that happening often enough to win him the fight.
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Theres no way floyd is a as quick at 154 as he would be at 140. He wont be as quick and he will be facing winky who does have eough power IMO to ko pbf.
well even if he does how will he set up he jab to land effectively on floyd? i mean i dont think he can knock out floyd (maybe with accumulation) but i dont think he can ko him with 1 punch and i doubt he will be able too with accumulation. referring to the first part, winky never throws anything without landing his jab first.
i dont see that happening.
Yeah but winkys jab will land alot of the time. Heres my theory. Floyd moves up to 154. He has his first match against winky. He gets into the ring and finds two things out, one- he cant move like he use to and two- he doesnt have the same speed. Dela hoya found this out when he fought sturm and i think floyd will too!
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floyd has a shot because winky stands directly in front of his opponent and moves forward slowly. floyd would be able to hammer the body and slip winkys jab. he shouldnt even bother trying to put on the weight because it would only slow him down. he would do just fine coming it at his natural weight.
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Theres no way floyd is a as quick at 154 as he would be at 140. He wont be as quick and he will be facing winky who does have eough power IMO to ko pbf.
well even if he does how will he set up he jab to land effectively on floyd? i mean i dont think he can knock out floyd (maybe with accumulation) but i dont think he can ko him with 1 punch and i doubt he will be able too with accumulation. referring to the first part, winky never throws anything without landing his jab first.
i dont see that happening.
Yeah but winkys jab will land alot of the time. Heres my theory. Floyd moves up to 154. He has his first match against winky. He gets into the ring and finds two things out, one- he cant move like he use to and two- he doesnt have the same speed. Dela hoya found this out when he fought sturm and i think floyd will too!
why will his jab land a lot of the time? most of the  time floyd leans back and slips the jab that way. winky will start reaching to land it and then floyd will be able to counter. his jab will not be anywhere near as effective as it was against tito.
that could happen to floyd, but he cares a lot about his body and takes great care of it too. he also has one of the best work ethics around. so if anyone can do it he can. not to mention he has put on weight very effectively so far.
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Good Topic.
I was never all that impressed with Mayweather until I saw him beat Gotti. The guy has hella skills. You can't find him in there. He has good stamina. He also has a good defense. I've even seen him use the Rope a Dope at times in other fights. Only good BOXERS are good at that.
When people talk about Winky we talk about his good defense. He can guard his head and body at the same time. I believe keeping your elbows tucked in to guard your body and keeping your hands up to guard your face will make your shoulders tired. If Mayweather pounds him on the shoulders and arms, I believe that defense will weaken. Once that is gone he has nothing. Mayweather throws TOO many punches. He is active and doesn't get hit much. Winky doesn't really set himself up for any Power Shots. Mayweather doesn't really get hit by straight shots because he leans back away from them and Winky throws a lot of straight punches.
I believe our kid Mayweather is on fire right now.
Remember, Bigger means nothing against a good Boxer. Look what Ali did to Liston. Speed is Power!
We finally agree on something Magnum!!
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Theres no way floyd is a as quick at 154 as he would be at 140. He wont be as quick and he will be facing winky who does have eough power IMO to ko pbf.
well even if he does how will he set up he jab to land effectively on floyd? i mean i dont think he can knock out floyd (maybe with accumulation) but i dont think he can ko him with 1 punch and i doubt he will be able too with accumulation. referring to the first part, winky never throws anything without landing his jab first.
i dont see that happening.
Yeah but winkys jab will land alot of the time. Heres my theory. Floyd moves up to 154. He has his first match against winky. He gets into the ring and finds two things out, one- he cant move like he use to and two- he doesnt have the same speed. Dela hoya found this out when he fought sturm and i think floyd will too!
why will his jab land a lot of the time? most of the  time floyd leans back and slips the jab that way. winky will start reaching to land it and then floyd will be able to counter. his jab will not be anywhere near as effective as it was against tito.
that could happen to floyd, but he cares a lot about his body and takes great care of it too. he also has one of the best work ethics around. so if anyone can do it he can. not to mention he has put on weight very effectively so far.
Because as i said, i dont think floyd will be able to move the same way he can at 140.
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who just sad clicked me?
Not me ;) . People need to start being up front about their sad clicks. This click and run bullshit is exactly that........bullshit.
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I just typed the longest damn reply giving you your credit but countering effectively to your arguments with a very good rip of the whole situation and I refuse to think of the whole sh*t again dammit
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I just typed the longest damn reply giving you your credit but countering effectively to your arguments with a very good rip of the whole situation and I refuse to think of the whole sh*t again dammit
Why what happened ? Did you accidently delete it?
