Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
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Mr140
Well he did knock out the guy who beat Winky though booze Oscar done enough and faced better competion then almost anyone has or ever while.
You mean beat a guy that beat Winky by SD. :rolleyes:
It is quite astonishing that ODLH has never fought Winky given that they were both around at the very same time and the longevitiy of the careers of both. Both at the pinnacle of boxing for quite awhile around the same weight and never fought?? I think that any excuse is merely pretextual really......
Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
Depends i think Hopkins was a bigger fight dont you and lose to Vargas did not help pluse he moved up i mean to i have no idea why he did not face Winkey but not because he look bad i mean the man faced Hopkins who makes ever guy look bad to me Winkey made his names off beating guys who were not in prime at weights they did not belong at.
Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
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Mr140
Depends i think Hopkins was a bigger fight dont you and lose to Vargas did not help pluse he moved up i mean to i have no idea why he did not face Winkey but not because he look bad i mean the man faced Hopkins who makes ever guy look bad to me Winkey made his names off beating guys who were not in prime at weights they did not belong at.
We both know why ODLH didn't fight Winky. The same reason why most people don't fight B-Hop. Because you won't win, and even if you do....it's gonna be ugly. Oscar is smart, he wasn't goign to do that twice. Nothing against him, I just wish people would acknowledge that he was avoided.
Foreman told Shavers why he wouldn't fight him, and I have the utmost respect for both men.
Winky just made his name off of beating guys who were in prime weights huh? Pointing to the Mosely fights I suppose and the Quartey tune up. Let me tell you this, Mosely was a good fight at any weight at the time. And Quartey is a much better tune up fight than Forbes. "Giving back to the people." Give me a break.
Let me tell you how Winky made his Name: fighting everyone, everywhere under the Sun and winning.
Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
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Mr140
Well he did knock out the guy who beat Winky though booze Oscar done enough and faced better competion then almost anyone has or ever while.
That was a younger version of Winky Wright who used more movement and used to exchange punches more. He hadn't perfected his style yet especially defense wise.
I thought his fight with Fernando Vargas was razor thin close, which i scored a draw Winky Wright stood toe to toe with Fernando Vargas. Which shows he isn't just a defensive fighter, he can get stuck in there and brawl.
Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
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Mr140
Well he did knock out the guy who beat Winky though booze Oscar done enough and faced better competion then almost anyone has or ever while.
That was a younger version of Winky Wright who used more movement and used to exchange punches more. He hadn't perfected his style yet especially defense wise.
I thought his fight with Fernando Vargas was razor thin close, which i scored a draw Winky Wright stood toe to toe with Fernando Vargas. Which shows he isn't just a defensive fighter, he can get stuck in there and brawl.
I thought Winky won (I'm slightly biased probably) BUT he did lose on paper so i was going along for the argument........ But I don't think it really did make him less marketable as Mr. 140 would have us believe.
Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
Shane i one of my favorite fighters but the weight 154 he should not even been there to much of jump for the way he fights. Quartey had long layoff and middle weight was not for him either. Trinidad was ok at the weight but was just destoryed by Hopkins my point was not about Winkey but even with Oscar fighting Forbes still does not change that he beat more champions and had more division championships then Winkey. My whole point is he does not have to fight Winkey or Margrito if he does not want to that was the only point i was making is Oscar does not need to.
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No Contest
I heard he's eyeing the winner of Darchinyan Vs Mijares.
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Puya
I think he is looking to fight Ivan Calderon if he gets pass Manny ;D
All good answers but I think Oscar will go for history AGAIN here and fight a woman!
He dressed like one so why not ? he could get breast implants etc.
I think Anne Wolfe would jack him up.
Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
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Mr140
Well he did knock out the guy who beat Winky though booze Oscar done enough and faced better competion then almost anyone has or ever while.
That was a younger version of Winky Wright who used more movement and used to exchange punches more. He hadn't perfected his style yet especially defense wise.
I thought his fight with Fernando Vargas was razor thin close, which i scored a draw Winky Wright stood toe to toe with Fernando Vargas. Which shows he isn't just a defensive fighter, he can get stuck in there and brawl.
I thought Winky won (I'm slightly biased probably) BUT he did lose on paper so i was going along for the argument........ But I don't think it really did make him less marketable as Mr. 140 would have us believe.
I had Winky Wright ahead by 2 points going into the 11th round i think. But then Fernando Vargas fought like a machine, in those last 2 rounds if i remember rightly he threw almost 100 punches in the last 2 rounds. And i thought based on his effort in those last 2 rounds he deserved a draw, but a very close fight that could of gone either way.
I also agree Winky Wright's close decision loss to Fernando Vargas in 1999, would of not made Winky Wright vs ODLH anymore less interesting. If i remember rightly ODLH was sitting at ringside when Shane Mosley got schooled by Winky Wright in the first fight, he could of fought Winky Wright then or when Shane Mosley lost again in the rematch.
Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
But Ice did Oscar not move up to fight Bernard instead and then after his lose i think Winky moved up to middle weight i believe. So it made the fight kinda hard to do because Oscar was not going to stay at MW he really never belonged at the weight to begain with so he went down. So he fought Mayweather and Winky i dont think could make 154 anymore i think he was having trouble making the weight but to me Mayweather and Hopkins were the bigger fights to be made and Oscar made the right choice i feel i dont think he fought guys that were not same league.
