Where Would You Place Lennox Lewis On The All Time Heavyweight Champions List ????

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Originally Posted by bambamdaddio

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

Lennox Lewis is the most overrated HW in history.

In Britain he is only the 4th best ever

1. Frank Bruno
2. Henry Cooper
3. Herbie Hide
4. Lennox

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Mate ... Please tell me ...... you are joking arent you, if not bud can you explain why ya think that or what the other three named achieved to better Lennox,

Or is that just your opinion because ya not keen on Lennox, as we are all allowed that bud..
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Lewis was lucky to catch a Bruno past his best.

Cooper fought Ali twice

Hide had aweome hand speed and power and woul have beat Lewis.


;D Only joking ;D

Form me Lewis lost twice against opponents who he shouldn't have lost to which for me will always put him further down the list than he should have been
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Larry Holmes
3. Joe Frazier
4. Joe Louis
5. Lennox Lewis

Lol ... Plop, Fuck ... you had me worried :shocking:

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Drago

I would place him in the top 10 for sure

its very difficult to build a top 10 cos you have fighters like jack dempsay who were practically super middleweights so how would he cope against a monster of a heavyweight like lennox

but here goes in no particular order

muhammad ali
joe frazier
george foreman
lennox lewis
evander holyfield
joe louis
jack johnson
mike tyson
sonny liston
ernie shavers

i expect some ear ache for leaving rocky marciano out

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You also left out Floyd Patterson,and Larry Holmes, and considering Holmes was one win away from Marciano's unbeaten streak,but for a bad decision would have gotten it............
Also as far as those heavies being super middle weights, you could make a case that Lennox Lewis should be considered by the Olympic standard of Super Heavyweight

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i posted a ittle earlier that t holmes & would swap him for either shavers or tyson, but i wouldnt put floyd in there.

lennox lewis is defo super heavy like the wlad & vitali but would definately disagree on there being another weight catagary in professional boxing

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

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Originally Posted by Drago

I would place him in the top 10 for sure

its very difficult to build a top 10 cos you have fighters like jack dempsay who were practically super middleweights so how would he cope against a monster of a heavyweight like lennox

but here goes in no particular order

muhammad ali
joe frazier
george foreman
lennox lewis
evander holyfield
joe louis
jack johnson
mike tyson
sonny liston
ernie shavers

i expect some ear ache for leaving rocky marciano out

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You include Ernie Shavers, but you leave off Holmes, Marciano and Ezzard Charles? Lewis also ranks way ahead of Tyson on the ATG HW list. It's not even close. Lewis ranks easily ahead of Evander, also.

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i put in no particular order plus already altered my list earlier in post

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

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Originally Posted by bambamdaddio

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

Lennox Lewis is the most overrated HW in history.

In Britain he is only the 4th best ever

1. Frank Bruno
2. Henry Cooper
3. Herbie Hide
4. Lennox

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Mate ... Please tell me ...... you are joking arent you, if not bud can you explain why ya think that or what the other three named achieved to better Lennox,

Or is that just your opinion because ya not keen on Lennox, as we are all allowed that bud..
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Lewis was lucky to catch a Bruno past his best.

Cooper fought Ali twice

Hide had aweome hand speed and power and woul have beat Lewis.


;D Only joking ;D

Form me Lewis lost twice against opponents who he shouldn't have lost to which for me will always put him further down the list than he should have been
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Larry Holmes
3. Joe Frazier
4. Joe Louis
5. Lennox Lewis

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I think lewis got caught by a once in a lifetime shot from mccall & he hadnt aclimaitized for the rahman fight. I mean he knocked the f**k ouut rahman in rematch & made oliver mccall cry, what more could he do.

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Originally Posted by Drago

I would place him in the top 10 for sure

its very difficult to build a top 10 cos you have fighters like jack dempsay who were practically super middleweights so how would he cope against a monster of a heavyweight like lennox

but here goes in no particular order

muhammad ali
joe frazier
george foreman
lennox lewis
evander holyfield
joe louis
jack johnson
mike tyson
sonny liston
ernie shavers

i expect some ear ache for leaving rocky marciano out

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I like your list, but I'd put Lennox above Foreman. Even the first incarnation of Foreman was plodding, but Lennox could bang and be light on his feet.

Lewis is Number 1

Beat every guy he ever fought and was a 3 time world champ.

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Originally Posted by GAME

Lewis is Number 1

Beat every guy he ever fought and was a 3 time world champ.

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Well thats short and sweet .. but who can argue with that :beerchug:

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Holmes could be the Greatest Heavy of all time, but we don't know because he never had to fight a Lewis, a Holyfield, a Tyson (prime) or an Ali (Prime). I would love to have seen Holmes and Tyson in their primes at the same time, really can't call that one

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He did fight alot of great HW's, not good ones, great ones, and he just destroyed them.
We dont look at that era as a great one for HW's for one simple reason, most of those guys barely made Holmes sweat,his hardest fight in his prime was actually probably Cobb, for no other reason then this, Cobb wouldnt go the hell down and stay there. Nobody knew,or knows to this day what in the hell was keeping him upright. Cosell quit announcing boxing over that fight.
Larry didnt have the Ali ability to just make you look foolish, or that Tyson 1 punch and its over,he was somewhere in the middle

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I can't think of one 'Great' Heavyweight that Holmes fought between 1978 and 1985, lots of 'Good' Ones

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Originally Posted by bambamdaddio

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Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Best out of 3 againest any fighter in history , Lewis number 1

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Nah Larry Holmes would whip him ;)

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Not so sure on that one bud .. woulda been a great fight to see, prob Lennox wins it for me though

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You need to watch some prime Larry Holmes, he would jab Lennox Lewis silly ;)

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Holmes could be the Greatest Heavy of all time, but we don't know because he never had to fight a Lewis, a Holyfield, a Tyson (prime) or an Ali (Prime). I would love to have seen Holmes and Tyson in their primes at the same time, really can't call that one

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He did fight alot of great HW's, not good ones, great ones, and he just destroyed them.
We dont look at that era as a great one for HW's for one simple reason, most of those guys barely made Holmes sweat,his hardest fight in his prime was actually probably Cobb, for no other reason then this, Cobb wouldnt go the hell down and stay there. Nobody knew,or knows to this day what in the hell was keeping him upright. Cosell quit announcing boxing over that fight.
Larry didnt have the Ali ability to just make you look foolish, or that Tyson 1 punch and its over,he was somewhere in the middle

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I can't think of one 'Great' Heavyweight that Holmes fought between 1978 and 1985, lots of 'Good' Ones

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Larry Holmes's career could be compared to Lennox Lewis career in some ways.

Ken Norton------Evander Holyfield
Muhammad Ali------- Mike Tyson
Gerry Cooney------- Andrew Golota

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Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

He did fight alot of great HW's, not good ones, great ones, and he just destroyed them.
We dont look at that era as a great one for HW's for one simple reason, most of those guys barely made Holmes sweat,his hardest fight in his prime was actually probably Cobb, for no other reason then this, Cobb wouldnt go the hell down and stay there. Nobody knew,or knows to this day what in the hell was keeping him upright. Cosell quit announcing boxing over that fight.
Larry didnt have the Ali ability to just make you look foolish, or that Tyson 1 punch and its over,he was somewhere in the middle

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I can't think of one 'Great' Heavyweight that Holmes fought between 1978 and 1985, lots of 'Good' Ones

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Larry Holmes's career could be compared to Lennox Lewis career in some ways.

Ken Norton------Evander Holyfield
Muhammad Ali------- Mike Tyson
Gerry Cooney------- Andrew Golota

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It could be compared in a lot of other ways too, but they would be favourable to Lewis. I put Holmes ahead of Lewis, but on paper Lewis has the better resume imo. As I have always said there have only been 2 great eras of Heavyweight boxing,- Early Seventies, and Early -Mid nineties

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Originally Posted by Drago

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Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie

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Originally Posted by Drago

Yo Big H

regarding rocky marciano, i just think he was too small & no where enough skills, he may of been tough as old boots but imagine a clean shot from lennox or anyother of the listed above. couldnt imagine him gettin up many times from that. I think he is overated because he is white

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He would be a cracking Cruiserweight though, can you imagine Rocky Marciano vs Evander Holyfield at Cruiserweight ? Wow is all i can say.

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couldnt imagine many more fights batter than that one

when we discuss top 10 heavys maybe we should class the smaller heavys from yrs back in the weights they would be today?

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Or we could call them the POUND FOR POUND Heavyweights taking into account the various era's lol:beerchug:

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Originally Posted by Drago

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

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Originally Posted by bambamdaddio

Mate ... Please tell me ...... you are joking arent you, if not bud can you explain why ya think that or what the other three named achieved to better Lennox,

Or is that just your opinion because ya not keen on Lennox, as we are all allowed that bud..
:beerchug:

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Lewis was lucky to catch a Bruno past his best.

Cooper fought Ali twice

Hide had aweome hand speed and power and woul have beat Lewis.


;D Only joking ;D

Form me Lewis lost twice against opponents who he shouldn't have lost to which for me will always put him further down the list than he should have been
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Larry Holmes
3. Joe Frazier
4. Joe Louis
5. Lennox Lewis

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I think lewis got caught by a once in a lifetime shot from mccall & he hadnt aclimaitized for the rahman fight. I mean he knocked the f**k ouut rahman in rematch & made oliver mccall cry, what more could he do.

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I don't think he could any more, i just think he's never going to hold right at the top because of them defeats

1.Joe Louis
2.Rocky Marciano
3.Lennox Lewis
4.Larry Holmes
5.Muhammad Ali
6.George Forman
7.Joe Frazier
8.Evander Hoyfield
9.Mike Tyson
10.Jack Dempsey