Yes i agree with Plop , and i think Mosley has a chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Plopeater
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Yes i agree with Plop , and i think Mosley has a chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Plopeater
Margrito is not wrong for Mosley the ones that were wrong were Forrest ad Winkey but it was there jab and boxing ability somthing Margrito does not have i pick the Mosley that beat Oscar over Margrito not sure now and i like his chance at Berto even though i like Berto Mosely i like alot more then Berto so i be rooting for Mosley hope he wins this fight. As for your comment on boxer Roy was no better a boxers with out his speed and reflexs he is nothing so i dont know why he was not on the list.
This should be a great fight. Although Shane is aging I believe that his experience will be key during this fight. I think that Mosley will beat Berto.
Very interesting matchup...
Can Berto overwhelm the once considered fastest hands in boxing?
Does SSM still have it in him to shine againsts todays young guns?
Really interested in seeing how this one goes and lots of respect to Berto for taking the fight.
A boxer moves well, counters well, and doesn't get hit. Mosley is relatively easy to hit compared to other guys with his speed, he doesn't move well, he's never been known for throwing a good straight punch which really limits his range. For the most part he doesn't use a leaping left hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Roy Jones Jr was fast, but he could dominate you purely using the counter. Roy didn't dominate with the jab, but he used that leaping left hook and that lead right cross, and he did use the jab a lot, but only to set up other punches or to keep the range. I consider a boxer, a guy who is a master of range, who is defensively sound, and is as effective off the back foot as they are off the front foot. Roy meets these creteria, Mayweather does, Ali does, Leonard does, Robinson does, Hopkins does, De La Hoya does, Whitaker does, but Mosley doesn't. Its because Mosley thinks like a brawler, he was such a heavy puncher at lightweight that I think he couldn't make the transition in the higher weightclasses.
When did Mosley have the fastest hands in boxing? Roy Jones was always p4p faster, then Floyd came along in the 2000's and was faster then.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Berto has the fastest hands in boxing Right now. Nobody matches his speed, it is very much akin to prime Roy Jones jr's speed p4p.
When did Forbes make him think? Forbes countered him a handful of times over 12 rounds, and never hurt Berto once, I think Berto was off balance once or twice because he was throwing his own punches. Do you also forget that Berto totally outboxed Forbes in a way that even Oscar couldn't? Oscar had to abandon his defense to land on Forbes, and he was countered every time Forbes threw punches, but Forbes barely landed on Berto at all, and Berto as he relaxed landed progressively more and more. Mosley loses because he is slower and he can't throw straight punches. I could see him KO'ing Berto one out of ten times, but Mosley has never delt with someone faster than him before, and also as willing as him to punch it out. I don't think Berto can take Mosley out, but he will earn Mosley's respect with his power and speed, and defensive ability. The last time Mosley fought a reallly good defensive fighter(Winky Wright) he became very frustrated very quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragos BitchSteve Forbes made him think a few times if he could punch he could have KO'd him i think your going to be upset when shane KO's him if your a Berto fan;);DQuote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceKO? Man, I can see Mosley winning, but by KO? What elite or even semi-elite fighter has he knocked out in the last 5+ years? Berto is faster, bigger and has shown he can dig down deep when necessary. I think Berto wins by decision and Mosley takes some shots that might have kayoed other guys. I think Mosley has one of the best chins in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragos Bitch
I think SSM had faster hand speed then PBF.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethWhen did Mosley have the fastest hands in boxing? Roy Jones was always p4p faster, then Floyd came along in the 2000's and was faster then.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Berto has the fastest hands in boxing Right now. Nobody matches his speed, it is very much akin to prime Roy Jones jr's speed p4p.
Meldrick Taylor
RJJ
SSM
PBF
SRL
Ali
in that order...
As for the Berto comment, I think BCD def. gives Berto a tough challenge there for fastest hands today.
I have heard that this is not a totally done deal, could be wrong.
Mosley will be passing his torch to Berto.