WTF?? Hatton wouldnt last 7 rounds i give him 10rnds tops because Margarito is a slow starter. but by the 5 maybe 6th round on Hatton will be lucky to survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUK
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WTF?? Hatton wouldnt last 7 rounds i give him 10rnds tops because Margarito is a slow starter. but by the 5 maybe 6th round on Hatton will be lucky to survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUK
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Because he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).
If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.
Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
Cotto wins easily.
at any weight cotto wins
Perhaps you are right, though I wouldn't have thought the size difference between junior welterweight and welterweight was all that huge, or insurmountable. He's taller than Cotto, for whatever that's worth. But if it is too much for him, then maybe he shouldn't be thinking about challenging DLH or Mayweather again.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).
If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.
Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
There's a huge difference in talent between the two divisions, it'd make a big difference to his legacy if he could be successful among the elite welterweights. He doesn't really seem to be challenged at JWW. But maybe he just have the drive to make that move. It'd probably take a lot of work. He certainly doesn't need the money.
It'll be real interesting to see how PAC does at welterweight.
Ricky Hatton was caught coming in, i don't care if you aren't a hard hitter. If you get caught coming in with a shot like that. 9 times out of 10 your going down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Paulie actually attempted the same type of shot on Hatton in the first round of their fight. The little left hook while stepping away from Hatton lunging in. Maybe that was part of the game plan but he just stopped trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBRicky Hatton was caught coming in, i don't care if you aren't a hard hitter. If you get caught coming in with a shot like that. 9 times out of 10 your going down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
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Originally Posted by skel1983
Hatton has been fighting at 140 for a dozen years. Is it unreasonable to expect him to move up in weight a few pounds? Hatton is 152-154 on fight night.
That is more than Mayweather, for example, has EVER weighed.
But in "Undefeated", Hatton was being hurt by FMJ even when he was not coming in. See round 8 as an example. Ricky was almost stopped in that round, and he was being beaten against the ropes....not coming in.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBRicky Hatton was caught coming in, i don't care if you aren't a hard hitter. If you get caught coming in with a shot like that. 9 times out of 10 your going down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hhhh65TP14
Floyd read him like a book right from the word go mate, he was at the stage of writing the whole ending right about then. Hatton was fooked.
Cotto smashes Hatton at any weight
Hi I'm DiOs and I toss steamy salads.....lots :feedme: .Now ya cannot deny that one :bucktooth:
Cotto TKO's Hatton
Yeah I think it would be a simular outcome to Pbf's fight at the moment.
I agree on the talent aspect but i think on a level playing feel Hatton would fit in quite nicely with the talented bunch of fighters at welter (if the weight/size wasn't an issue). He wouldn't be able to dominate it like he does at 140 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGMPerhaps you are right, though I wouldn't have thought the size difference between junior welterweight and welterweight was all that huge, or insurmountable. He's taller than Cotto, for whatever that's worth. But if it is too much for him, then maybe he shouldn't be thinking about challenging DLH or Mayweather again.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoBecause he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).
If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.
Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
There's a huge difference in talent between the two divisions, it'd make a big difference to his legacy if he could be successful among the elite welterweights. He doesn't really seem to be challenged at JWW. But maybe he just have the drive to make that move. It'd probably take a lot of work. He certainly doesn't need the money.
It'll be real interesting to see how PAC does at welterweight.
Come fight night he probs weighs around 150-153 ish whereas some guys at Welter are going to be at 160+. It's a massive difference especially if you don't have the edge in technical ability.
I don't think he should fight Oscar or Mayweather again. Oscar = too big, Mayweather = too good (at any weight). I think Pac at 140 would be hugely competitive.
I think Hatton has a chance against Cotto at welter.Cotto dont like being pressured,and has also hit the canvas against people who he should beaten easy. Hatton's problem is the amount of jabs he would have to eat,and these jabs would be a lot harder than he has been use to.