Who is (or was) your favorite "stalk, stun and close" type of guy?

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Originally Posted by CGM

Hmmm... I thought about this for a while, and for some reason the name Tony Ayala Jr kept coming to mind, particularly the stalking, stunning, and closing part. He was badass. Unfortunately he was also badass outside of the ring.

I liked all the SRL mentions. Another thing about him was, he could take a punch. You hurt the man, and he would come back strong.

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Tony Ayala Jr. Yep. He was some stalker and closer. He also was a lot like Tyson in that he would attempt to overwhelm (i.e., mug) his opponent early on. Mean one, Tony. I remember when he iced Epps and then spit on him.

Points taken on SRL. He was a closer more than a stalker. Here is 8 minutes of stun and klill. The stalk part was not filmed but it led to the other parts. Great and savage endings. http://video.google.com/videosearch?rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7WZPA&q=Khaosai++Galaxy&um=1& sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#

See thats how I took the original intent of the thread,a guy who would just methodically hunt you down in the ring,not just blow your doors down. Thats why I went Hopkins,sooner or later he was going to hunt you down in there,you can run,but you cant hide.
Tyson in his prime just annihilated guys,Leanord just sniped them apart,B-hop just stalks them methodically

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Originally Posted by holmcall

Mine currently is Margo becuse he can walk through punches and still do the stalk as he gets stronger and stronger. My past favorites were Sugar Ray Leonard and K. Galaxy One they had you hurt, it was like being in the Serengeti National Park; the kill was coming. :foruml10gc5:

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I know he doesn't hurt you, but I love how Winky Wright would walk guys down behind that jab. He did it to Vargas, he did it to Trinidad, Hopkins, Quartey, Taylor, Mosley, etc, etc. all without being hit hardly at all.

Arce quickly comes to mind.
Vic is also good at it.
Soto does an outstanding job.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

See thats how I took the original intent of the thread,a guy who would just methodically hunt you down in the ring,not just blow your doors down. Thats why I went Hopkins,sooner or later he was going to hunt you down in there,you can run,but you cant hide.
Tyson in his prime just annihilated guys,Leanord just sniped them apart,B-hop just stalks them methodically

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Yes. Points taken. One of my favorites was Carlos “Escopeta” Monzon who seemed to push his punches and seemed stiff as he kept on coming, but ”seem” is one thing and “reality” is quite another. Once he commenced the stalk, few escaped. As writer Mike Casey put it, “Not to put too fine a point on it, there were times when Carlos Monzon looked downright ordinary when viewed through a strictly technical eye. Perhaps that is what threw so many people in the early days and what continues to throw the new generation"

Here is another I wrote about some time ago: With a backdrop of "Puerto Rico! Puerto Rico!" rocking the arenas in which he did (and does) his work, Miguel Cotto tracked and destroyed such tough fighters as Zab Judah, Carlos Quintana, Kelson Pinto, Gianluca Branco (stopped for the first time in his career), Mohamad Abdulaev, Randall Bailey and Cesar Bazan. But then he met Margarito who has refined and perhaps redefined the technique

Salvadore Sanchez when he smelled blood..

Aaron Pryor....

Roberto Duran...

Margorito is my favorite. I love this monster’s style of starting slow but using a high punch volume and incoming pressure to wear out his opponents setting them up for brutal closure. But there are three addition factors that accentuate his particular brand of seek and destroy. First, his granite-like chin allows him to keep the pressure on; secondly, his stamina is great and he gets stronger as the fight progresses; and thirdly (and most startling), is his unique way of virtually jogging after his tiring foes, something guaranteed to deplete anyone’s spirit. Michael Katsidis is another who does this, but he doesn’t have the chin to compliment it.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

See thats how I took the original intent of the thread,a guy who would just methodically hunt you down in the ring,not just blow your doors down. Thats why I went Hopkins,sooner or later he was going to hunt you down in there,you can run,but you cant hide.
Tyson in his prime just annihilated guys,Leanord just sniped them apart,B-hop just stalks them methodically

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Yes. Points taken. One of my favorites was Carlos “Escopeta” Monzon who seemed to push his punches and seemed stiff as he kept on coming, but ”seem” is one thing and “reality” is quite another. Once he commenced the stalk, few escaped. As writer Mike Casey put it, “Not to put too fine a point on it, there were times when Carlos Monzon looked downright ordinary when viewed through a strictly technical eye. Perhaps that is what threw so many people in the early days and what continues to throw the new generation"

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Again why I went with Hopkins,thats why he's so good,he doesnt have the biggest or fastest punch on earth, but he cuts the ring off and methodically beats the hell out of you. And heaven forbid you see him smile,because if he's smiling,he knows he has you.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

See thats how I took the original intent of the thread,a guy who would just methodically hunt you down in the ring,not just blow your doors down. Thats why I went Hopkins,sooner or later he was going to hunt you down in there,you can run,but you cant hide.
Tyson in his prime just annihilated guys,Leanord just sniped them apart,B-hop just stalks them methodically

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Yes. Points taken. One of my favorites was Carlos “Escopeta” Monzon who seemed to push his punches and seemed stiff as he kept on coming, but ”seem” is one thing and “reality” is quite another. Once he commenced the stalk, few escaped. As writer Mike Casey put it, “Not to put too fine a point on it, there were times when Carlos Monzon looked downright ordinary when viewed through a strictly technical eye. Perhaps that is what threw so many people in the early days and what continues to throw the new generation"

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Again why I went with Hopkins,thats why he's so good,he doesnt have the biggest or fastest punch on earth, but he cuts the ring off and methodically beats the hell out of you. And heaven forbid you see him smile,because if he's smiling,he knows he has you.

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I garee with 95% re Hopkins. I just didn't see him as a closer in the true killer sense :fighting0043gi5: of that word, but your points are well made.

In his prime he was, hell he even stopped Glen Johnson, and he had a very high ko percentage.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

In his prime he was, hell he even stopped Glen Johnson, and he had a very high ko percentage.

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Its how cold and calculating he is about it. Id hate to fight the guy. He never gets rattled,he will just hunt you down. ANd like I said, heaven forbid the SOB starts grinning at you. Most fighters grin to show you,that you didnt hurt them,he starts grinning when he knows he has you,he starts smiling,you are in,and in deep son

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Originally Posted by Taeth

In his prime he was, hell he even stopped Glen Johnson, and he had a very high ko percentage.

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Its how cold and calculating he is about it. Id hate to fight the guy. He never gets rattled,he will just hunt you down. ANd like I said, heaven forbid the SOB starts grinning at you. Most fighters grin to show you,that you didnt hurt them,he starts grinning when he knows he has you,he starts smiling,you are in,and in deep son

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Good stuff.Hopkins was sinister and methodical.Early on he had some blitz jobs but was at his best at just beating people up....Later,he did not strike me as a huge closer but sincerly gave the impression that he enjoyed beating people up,admired his work and made you pay for the smallest of mistakes.Great call on the grinning Lol

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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In his prime he was, hell he even stopped Glen Johnson, and he had a very high ko percentage.

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Its how cold and calculating he is about it. Id hate to fight the guy. He never gets rattled,he will just hunt you down. ANd like I said, heaven forbid the SOB starts grinning at you. Most fighters grin to show you,that you didnt hurt them,he starts grinning when he knows he has you,he starts smiling,you are in,and in deep son

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Good stuff.Hopkins was sinister and methodical.Early on he had some blitz jobs but was at his best at just beating people up....Later,he did not strike me as a huge closer but sincerly gave the impression that he enjoyed beating people up,admired his work and made you pay for the smallest of mistakes.Great call on the grinning Lol

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He'd flat out frighten me to fight,he views you as his job. Its cold blooded and methodical. And like we both said,if he smiles,fights over,you just dont know it yet.
Tyson,Wolf,and even her prodigy Kirkland, can end your fight on one punch,Hopkins slowly but surely deconstructs you.
Those fighters wipe you out with a punch,Hopkins humiliates you