Oscar Dela Hoya angling to get a rematch with Pacquiao

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

"Sources close to the Golden Boy camp have been saying Oscar is upset over his loss to Manny Pacquiao. Oscar is believed to be angling to get a rematch with Manny Pacquiao perhaps as earlier as late this spring.

Oscar does not want to end his career with this loss. Oscar believed that he was overtrained by his trainers for this fight. There also appeared to be much confusion in Oscar's corner the night of the fight.

Who would train Oscar in a rematch? Floyd Mayweather, Sr. who previously trained Oscar De La Hoya has stated he would be willing to train Oscar De La Hoya in a rematch with Pacquiao. In another recent interview Mayweather, Sr. stated the following:

“I can tell you is that it wasn’t all Oscar’s fault. I know personally of two things that went on in Oscar’s training camp. There was a lot of stuff that went on in camp that was counter productive to Oscar’s training,” said the controversial fight coach.

Mayweather also picked Ricky Hatton to beat Pacquiao if the two should ever face one another."



Whoa!! All the big name boxers wanting to fight Pacquiao!! Hatton, PBF and now Hoya!! ;D
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De La Hoya is always blaming some one else for his loses, First it was Freddie Roach had the wrong strategy for him against Mayweather when the whole time he kept telling Oscar just to use his jab which he chose to stop using and now this..

If they fight again, Oscar will get dropped and stopped by Pac.

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PAC already stopped Hoya, it's a stoppage... And if Hoya didn't quit on his stool after the 8th, PAC probably drop him and finish him off in the next round, the 9th round...
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I don't wanna pay $50 to see him quit while sitting on his stool again. No mas Oscar!

still think it would be a massive fight again though make plenty of money, & thats wot its all abt

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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

I don't wanna pay $50 to see him quit while sitting on his stool again. No mas Oscar!

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I would pay to see him fight PAC at least 5 years ago but I wouldn't pay for ODLH or ANY boxing great out there who is fighting passed his prime, old, worned out, out of gas, drained, etc.

Not only did Pac get the best payday so far but he also got a nice name to add to his resume :) . More power to him :cool:.

Bilbo, you've got to be kidding me! Oscar's two losses to mayweather and manny clearly due to wrong trainer choice? Are you high? First of all Freddie roach is the best trainer out there! Roach totally got into oscar's head a few weeks ago. Roach and manny stood with the game plan and completly dominated DLH. The reason Oscar lost against floyd and manny is because they were just better. Oscar's always had trouble with speedy guys and those two were top notch. I have nothing against DLH, i like him and I think he's a great fighter, but it wouldnt matter if he had floyd mayweather senior, Angelo Dundee, Emmanuel steward, or freaking larry merchant, he wasnt gonna beat Manny if he had brass knuckles under his gloves. Oscar De La Hoya would not have ever beaten Manny even if you had them both in their primes. To say that the reason DLH lost was because of his trainer is the most idiotic statement i've ever heard! So you think that if Oscar had Floyd mayweather senior as his trainer he would beeen able to dodge that straight left hand huh? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

It may be a different story at light middle . I think Oscar was so drained to make weight that he had nothing in the tank . Im surprised Pac didnt drop him . At light middle he may have abit more energy but he looked so shot in his last fight that I think hed be underdog.

Oscar has no real reason to fight on and a Pac rematch is now completely lacking in credibility. Oscar should stay on the sun bed and keep the tie around his neck. Its something he might be good at.

Oscar hasnt been particularly good for half a decade now, and he's getting slimmer pickings fighting ever smaller men. No reason to go on and getting completely silly.

I'd love to see him come back and beat Pac and then retire but I just don't think he's got anythig left.

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Oscar De La Hoya would not have ever beaten Manny even if you had them both in their primes.

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Not sure about this. Oscar faced guys that could hit and took care of business. Remember Ike Quartey? They exchanged punches throughout the fight and BOTH were KO punchers. Oscar threw punches in that fight, unlike with Pac where he hardly threw anything out there.
I can see many reasons why Oscar lost. First, Pac is a nice young fighter in his prime who has shown to get better and better. Oscar is not in his prime, he's drained, out of gas, old, worned out, etc. Loosing all that weight, etc. But saying it was because of his trainer, Iiiii dunno, that doesn't convince me as much as other reasons.

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I think Oscar was so drained to make weight that he had nothing in the tank

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He even weighted less than Pac on fight night. I thought he would be way heavier than Pac.
As for rematches, this is something that has not been heard from Oscar himself, its all speculation. But I am not sure if people want to pay to see a rematch for a fight that didn't look competitive at all.

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

I'd love to see him come back and beat Pac and then retire but I just don't think he's got anythig left.

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Do you mind if I ask why? I am interested to know. It can give a very "deep" understanding, and sincere reasoning, as to why Pacquiao is undeserving to be the victor in his match against Oscar dela Hoya. Assuming that that is the reason for saying, "love to see him (ODLH) come back and beat Pac and then retire". It sure will help clear things, that are somewhat nagging!

I don't think Pac would take a second fight with Hoya in a million years.. I can't remember the last time someone took such a one sided beating like that for 8 rounds and there was a rematch... It would do nothing for Pac to take on Oscar again... Apart from $$$, but there are plenty of money fights out... And I believe Pac from here on in would rather earn half the pay packet to fight guys who are going to add to his legacy and belt title collection, than to his wallet taking an otherwise empty fight against DLH.

DLH has nothing to offer apart from money at this point... Even a Journeyman should think twice before getting in with Oscar... He doesn't have head movement or footwork these days.. His Jab doesn't snap or have any heat on it. He isn't prepared to take a single punch to throw a combo, he was pushed backwards for most of a fight against a small guy... After all the training he did for Pac, and what he actually brought to the ring, he's much better off using energy for his business ventures... He had an incredible career, and anyone that know anything will remember that..

Oscar said before the fight that he felt dizzy after training from the weight loss. But he didnt read the warning signs. If there is a return it has to be at lightmiddle

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Originally Posted by GAME

Oscar said before the fight that he felt dizzy after training from the weight loss. But he didnt read the warning signs. If there is a return it has to be at lightmiddle

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IIIIIIIIIIIIIIf he would fight again, I'll say he fights a journeyman or someone that has had some TV exposure (like Forbes) and TOTALLY DESTROY HIM. That is, to go in there like a hungry lion and show speed with those snapping jabs he was known for, those hooks to the body and face, fast uppercuts, ring cutting, etc. And show he's got something......but this is thinking too much because not even with a guy like Forbes did he show he had something left.

So naaaaah, no more ODLH I guess.

I totally agree... he should stay retired. Oscar should consider permanently walking away from the sport while he can, with all faculties still intact. It is a blessing that he is in a position to do so by his own accord, with no undue influence, nor pressure.

Many a "great" succumb to the evils of bravado. They wake up one day to find, that the time has elapsed, when such similar situation was a "probable". And then they are now left without an out, befitting that of a "great one", and the remainder of their days wil now be filled with the feeling of betrayal and bitterness.

Yes its not Oscar's fault that he had no answer for anything Pacquiao was doing nor ability to deal with his speed.

Its his fault that he gets the trainer who trained JMM to have a blueprint to beat Pacquiao and not being able to follow through whatsoever.

A rematch should serve as nothing more then a payday for Oscar as if the first fight wasnt enough of one