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Either Klitschko ices Arreola inside 4 rounds....the guy is never prepared and his defense is porous. He hasnt fought anyone notable and to tell you the truth I havent been really that impressed with any of the 3-4 performances I have seen....When you are fighting UPS drivers you need to be a bit more spectacular..
Not after his fight with Fres Oquendo....Toney is 100% done as a legit prize fighter. Arreola is a good fighter and if Wlad wants to stay busy then fine by me.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Arreola is ranked pretty high and is undefeated....people just don't see him having a chance because he's been fat in his last couple of fights but he has a good chin and good power and whenever he gets hit he likes to throw right back....I give Arreola a better shot at beating Wlad than anyone else out there right now...he has stamina, power, a good chin, and a style which won't sit well with Wlad who likes to hit somebody and have them stop trying to win after about round 3.
If Dr Slap agrees to this I have to give him a little credit.
He's better than frauds like Rahman, Thompson, Brock, Austin etc
Thompson, Brock, and Austin earned their shots and Rahman just kind of fell into his shot because Povetkin got "hurt" (IMO he got close to fighting Wlad and realized he had no shot at winning and decided not to fight him).Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
I just wonder when Odlanier Solis is going to get up in the ranks to add some fresh blood to the division and also when Dimitrenko is going to fight someone good.
What has Tony Thompson ever done ? Austin had 4 draws and 3 losses :rolleyes: and Brock beat a couple of poor contenders. Timor Ibragimov, Damn. I don't know how those 3 merrited a shot at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleThompson, Brock, and Austin earned their shots and Rahman just kind of fell into his shot because Povetkin got "hurt" (IMO he got close to fighting Wlad and realized he had no shot at winning and decided not to fight him).Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
I just wonder when Odlanier Solis is going to get up in the ranks to add some fresh blood to the division and also when Dimitrenko is going to fight someone good.
I think its still a little to soon for Arreola to tackle the elite of the division, he still needs to work on his dfense & his conditioning.
He has a punchers chance but theres no way I see Wlad getting careless against a banger like Arreola.
I for one would be over the moon if Arreola could land that perfect shot as he's entertaining & would bring some much needed attention to the division.
i,m with you on arreola he can take a punch, i have him knocking wlad out, then his brother will fight arreola because of the loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleNot after his fight with Fres Oquendo....Toney is 100% done as a legit prize fighter. Arreola is a good fighter and if Wlad wants to stay busy then fine by me.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Arreola is ranked pretty high and is undefeated....people just don't see him having a chance because he's been fat in his last couple of fights but he has a good chin and good power and whenever he gets hit he likes to throw right back....I give Arreola a better shot at beating Wlad than anyone else out there right now...he has stamina, power, a good chin, and a style which won't sit well with Wlad who likes to hit somebody and have them stop trying to win after about round 3.
Tony Thompson TKO'd Luan Krasniqi and beat Timor Ibragimov and Dominick Guinn...his size and style as a fighter make people avoid him. David Haye would have a TON of trouble with Thompson....anybody would.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Calvin Brock was 29-0-0 when he fought Wlad and just came off wins vs Etienne, McCline, Timor Ibragimov, and he got Zuri Lawrence with one of the biggest shots I have ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI8KSBsSY-Y
Ray Austin had a draw with Sultan Ibragimov which entitled him to a title shot as Sultan also got a title shot vs Shannon Briggs whom he beat.
I must also add that Wladimir did win all those fights by KO/TKO so that's what he is supposed to do.
If Arreola can make himself harder to hit then I like his chances better but the first guy with any power that he fought he got knocked down by....and hell he commented about Chazz Witherspoon's "Oh shit jab" and if he wasn't only blowing smoke then he's going to get a woodshed beat down from Wlad.
Cris is a warrior but he can't afford to be fat in this fight and he can't afford to start slow....Wlad has been the distance before and won even after being "knocked down" 3 times
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Originally Posted by leftyleeWhat has Tony Thompson ever done ? Austin had 4 draws and 3 losses :rolleyes: and Brock beat a couple of poor contenders. Timor Ibragimov, Damn. I don't know how those 3 merrited a shot at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleThompson, Brock, and Austin earned their shots and Rahman just kind of fell into his shot because Povetkin got "hurt" (IMO he got close to fighting Wlad and realized he had no shot at winning and decided not to fight him).Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
I just wonder when Odlanier Solis is going to get up in the ranks to add some fresh blood to the division and also when Dimitrenko is going to fight someone good.
Brock beat McCline, Etienne among others, I agree it was too soon when he got his shot, but he had better credentials than Arreola and I would bet on Brock if he was still fighting to outbox Arreola. SULTAN Ibragimov the guy who faced Wlad had just beaten Holyfield, and Briggs, was a belt holder and had a heralded amateur career back in Russia. He was, and is as good of a small heavyweight as anyone in the sport today. Once again Ray Austin was a guy who had beaten a lot of recognizable names, and I don't know why Wlad fought him, but he is more credible to get a title shot than Arreola currently is.
The way to get hit less is keep your gloves up and use more head movement, but that only slows down you ability to get inside, and Arreola is slow enough that even if he rushes straight in Wlad will either tie him up, or move out of the way rather easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Don't be like that, Lyle. Getting punched in the brain stem is a legit knockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I get the feeling that even if Arreola got in phenomenal shape and put a smackdown on Klitschko that he would lose his belt within 3 defenses because he would come in at a career heaviest against a pushover opponent who got hit with a lightning bolt as he was lacing up his shoes.
If you look at Wlad's knockdowns the first one was definitely on the back of the head, the second one Samuel didn't land anything it was just Wlad being off balance because of a push or their bodies connecting. ANd the third one I believe was behind the head as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceDon't be like that, Lyle. Getting punched in the brain stem is a legit knockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I get the feeling that even if Arreola got in phenomenal shape and put a smackdown on Klitschko that he would lose his belt within 3 defenses because he would come in at a career heaviest against a pushover opponent who got hit with a lightning bolt as he was lacing up his shoes.
It's not only head movement and keeping his hands up...Arreola has to use footwork to avoid punches and counter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
I'm not extremely impressed by Arreola's handspeed or combination punching....he's taking a huge step up and I think if Wlad with low confidence can beat an undefeated Sam Peter then a Wlad Klitschko who is at the top of his game shouldn't have much trouble with Arreola.
Having never been past 8 rounds could spell disaster for Arreola. I dont believe he trains as hard as he could maybe as a result of being overconfident in his ability to end a fight when he wants. Im sure he would train harder for Wlad, but his lack of pro experience against elite fighters, less than great defense, and questionable conditioning could all come into play.